Why is my email being used for warnings?

[CurtSibling]

I recently got a moderator warning via email.

I think this to be uncalled for, and an invasion of an email-address I gave out in good faith to users on CFC.

I would appreciate if my email was not used in this way, as there is an adequate PM system.
And a warning on the boards would have got the message across.

Now, the warning itself is not the problem.

The invasion of my space is.

Just giving some feedback.

 

[Rodgers]

Clear your damn mailbox - I've tried to PM you before and been told it's full. Maybe thats why they sent you the email

 

[Chieftess]

When a moderator gives a warning in the forum, they may pm or email you so you notice the warning, especially in a high-traffic area like OT.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

I prefer PM if it is available, unless a time dealine is involved and I use both.
The 'PM rejected box full' notice tells me that a emil was automaticly sent you telling you you box was full, but I am not sure that that works, or it may be rejected by a spam filter.

 

[cracker]

A good way to avoid receiving warnings by email is to change your behavior so that it is not necessary for you to be a behavioral lightning rod.

The email warnings cannot be deemed an invasion of your privacy when they are in fact a courtesy to you in prelude to having more severe disciplinary actions taken if some behavior does not change.

It takes alot of extra effort for moderators to treat you with the utmost respect when the root cause of the problems are elective behaviors that you probably have total control of.

The internal functions of the forums track PM and also track whether the PM has been received by the party it was sent to. Some of our worst behavior problems come for members who have deliberately isolated themselves from other means of communications or who fail to use the Private Messaging system to even the first level of effectiveness.

Cleaning up these private communication methods and keeping your personal disciplinary issues private is your responsibility.

Posting messages in the public discussion forum that undermine or countermand these private warnings that are designed to preserve your personal dignity will addressing the behavior problems is one of the first major warning signs that you may be headed for a greater conflict which will result in restriction of your access to the Forum priviliges.

I am certain that it is difficult enough to contact you by email that a moderator would only make the extra effort to do this if there was a substantial behavior problem that required your immediate attention.

I would take this as a signal to clean up my act if I were you.

 

[CurtSibling]

What I object to is the fact that the warning was low-key, If it was delivered in the normal crimson Mod-text I would have scoped it right away.

I do not welcome warnings delivered via my private home email.
Which will be unavailable from now on, as will PMs.
If I get a warning, I want it right there on the forum page. Not invading my privacy.

In CFC, I respect mods as lawful figures.
Outside in my own email domain, however, they are not a concern to me.

Edited: with apologies for lack of decorum to all.

 

[cracker]

Curt,

Consider this your one warning from me that your choices you seem to be committed to making are only designed to create conflict.

Telling me that this is none of my business is also clearly an act of disrespect and a violation of site rules. All moderators are bening over backwards to treat each member with respect while attempting to address conduct issues privately whenever possible.

The email warnings and PM warnings for conduct issues are designed to minimize the public disruption for potential marginal conduct issues and if you disable these functions completely and continue with the source conduct that creates the need, then I would interpret this is deliberately creating problems that we can live without.

I do not moderate this specific forum and the range of acceptable discussion in this Site Feedback forum may be considered much broader. This does not give you license to be disrespectful of the moderators of the processes that we try to use to maintain order and treat you with some respect while clearly attempting to separate your condcut issues from display in the public forums like nasty socks on a clothes line.

You have had you say and so have I. I will consider this issue closed and your opinions duly noted along with my warnings to you as to my expectations of acceptable conduct within the rules that your agreed to when you joined this site.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

Curt, you seem to have disabled your PM thingy.

 

[CurtSibling]

My apologies, cracker.
I posted at a bad time, and was under some stress. No disrespect was meant.

I was a bit put out at being warned off-site, so I hope you can see my point.

I will edit that last post by me.

PS
Yes, Alcibiaties, I have disabled PMs, I no longer need them.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I was a bit put out at being warned off-site, so I hope you can see my point.

New one on me, I considered the extra effort to send the message when the PM bounced to be a curtesy.


Note also that without either of PM or e-mail notices enabled, that moderators will not be able to comunicate private (no posted in the forum and not logged as anl action in the staff forum) warnings or advice to you. They would have to make warning public and official, counting towards wheather you may be restricted at a subsequent incident.

 

[CurtSibling]

Lefty, would I use your home address to raise an issue about CFC?

No I would not. I would consider that an insult to you.

Perhaps things are different in the States, I don't know.
In my society, it is considered rather bad form to seek out people at home and still carry on outside business.

I understand why Lefty done what he done, a full PM box.
But in future, please note guys, that I am only Enemy Ace on site forums.
Outside, I am a man with a life, and a low tolerance to invasion of privacy.
I trust there will not be a repeat of this.


That said, I did acknowledge the warning, and I feel this thread is dragging on now.
I think I have made my point.
You may kill this thread at will.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

I or other staff would have assumed that your intention for that e-mail address was expressed by your opiton box for "enable e-mail notices". I still recoment that you enable PMs and clean out you PM folder.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Note also that without either of PM or e-mail notices enabled, that moderators will not be able to comunicate private (no posted in the forum and not logged as anl action in the staff forum) warnings or advice to you. They would have to make warning public and official, counting towards wheather you may be restricted at a subsequent incident.

Do I take this as a threat?
Unless I close communication channels, how else do I protect my privacy?

If you can assure that my home privacy will not be taken for granted, I will reactivate my PM and Email.

 

[cracker]

Curt,

Just as a courtesy and a matter of good sense, I think you should turn your PM functions on and learn to use them to address private communications issues here. These tools are designed to be your private mailbox at CFC and if you disable these functions you leave us no choice but to attempt to contact you off-line by other means.

In our culture, if is appropriate to contcat individuals discretely whenever possible to avoid public conflict or embarassment. Sometimes the frenzy of the public side of the issue demands that we deal with the public posting issues first, but you will find that most moderators will attempt to put a quick bandage on the problem and then to contact the members involved in a private way to steer the process towards avoiding any repeat or expansion of the problems that we feel need to be addressed.

I personnally am 10 times more likely to take stronger initial action if I feel that the parties involved are ignoring other private communication options. This is not to be mean, but just recognizes that we can have little confidence in an expectation of changed behavior if we feel that the member cannot be or does not want to be contacted directly in any way.

Ultimately, having you communicate with us and having the ability to communicate with you privately in some way is a reflection that you understand we respect your privacy and as well respecting your public personna and dignity.

Turn PMs on and make that process your friend.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
If you can assure that my home privacy will not be taken for granted, I will reactivate my PM and Email.

PM's are on the forum only. They are not sent to your home. That's basically the whole point of them, to have a form of non-public communication that stays within the forums.

But, also, once your PM box is full, the next step would normally be an e-mail. So, be sure your PM box is not full. It can hold 70 messages. Any messages that you don't need to keep active but do want to keep can be downloaded and saved to your computer.

 

[CurtSibling]

Cracker,
Since you have assured that my privacy will be respected in future, I will enable PMs and email...

OK, I consider this issue now closed.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by CurtSibling


Do I take this as a threat?

No, you take that as an explaination of how moderators use private communication to resolve issues at a less confrontational level than public and logged warnings. If you want you e-mail private, by all means check it off so, but I recomend keep one channel of private communication available. It is also need when you want to request a moderator for some action like fixing a misposted thread or poll. The PM is the obvious medium for communication about the site, without it, you would have to e-mail the moderator or admin, who would then repond by return e-mial, which you apparently do not want. Now go to you computer, play a games, kill the hell out of something, and feel better about the world.

 

[CurtSibling]

OK, Lefty.

As you might notice, PMs, etc are back on the menu in my profile.

I feel better about the world already.
Now, can we close this thread?