Woman sues over GTA

[De Lorimier]

One good thing came out of this: I touched my PS2 for the first time in months and started a new GTA:San Andreas game!
Grove Street B*tch!

 

[MarineCorps]

The point I was making is that a child who wants to install this mod (without telling their parents what it actually is) might claim that it is a patch.

Well thats not the companies fault. THe kid lied (something I am on friendly terms with) and the mod is not supported by the company. Just like Rise and Rule is not supported by Firaxis.

 

[ainwood]

Well thats not the companies fault. THe kid lied (something I am on friendly terms with) and the mod is not supported by the company. Just like Rise and Rule is not supported by Firaxis.

Who's fault is it?

This isn't a mod anyway - its a hack. Who care's if they say "its not supported" - the company is still the people who put it in! This is NOT some third-party mod. It may be hidden, but its still in there.

 

[Sims2789]

I never said there were lots of stupid lawsuits. I never even hinted at that. I meant that every time the media reports a dumb lawsuit the lawsuits just get stupider.

Okay. Now I see what you mean. I misunderstood you.

 

[Evie]

Who's fault is it?

This isn't a mod anyway - its a hack. Who care's if they say "its not supported" - the company is still the people who put it in! This is NOT some third-party mod. It may be hidden, but its still in there.

It's still there because someone probably forgot to delete the lines of code after blocking access - a simple mistake.

It's not like they decided to actually release the game with that content (which WOULD be pretty damn bad).

 

[ainwood]

It's still there because someone probably forgot to delete the lines of code after blocking access - a simple mistake.

It's not like they decided to actually release the game with that content (which WOULD be pretty damn bad).

Maybe it was a mistake, but:
* Someone still have to program it originally.
* They're still responsible, whether it was intentional or not.

 

[Colonel]

Give me a break if anyone between the ages of say 13-17 hasnt seen enough porn to fill a warehouse then that kid is screwed up anyway. Why is it that they teach sex ed but expect no media outlets to expose them to basically the same.

 

[MarineCorps]

Who's fault is it?

This isn't a mod anyway - its a hack. Who care's if they say "its not supported" - the company is still the people who put it in! This is NOT some third-party mod. It may be hidden, but its still in there.

Yeah but the company didn't put it in there in the game so that so someone could find it and share it with the rest of the world while the company just smilies and looks on, instead they locked it up in the hope that it would never see the light of the Tv screen again.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

That old hag probably liked it .

 

[ainwood]

Give me a break if anyone between the ages of say 13-17 hasnt seen enough porn to fill a warehouse then that kid is screwed up anyway.

What a load of rubbish. You're suggesting that kids that don't watch porn are 'screwed up'? So we should just allow hard-core porn to be sandwiched between sesame street and spongebob, because they can see it on the internet anyway?

Please allow me, as a parent, to have some say / control over what children in my care are exposed to.

Why is it that they teach sex ed but expect no media outlets to expose them to basically the same.

Does sex education involve watching hardcore porn?

Didn't think so.

 

[ainwood]

Yeah but the company didn't put it in there in the game so that so someone could find it and share it with the rest of the world while the company just smilies and looks on.

So why did they put it in there exactly?

instead they locked it up in the hope that it would never see the light of the Tv screen again.

Which they did an awful job of, and should therefore take responsibility for.

 

[MarineCorps]

So why did they put it in there exactly?

Early feature that was decided against.

Which they did an awful job of, and should therefore take responsibility for.

And they have. They are planning to release a version without the code.

 

[ainwood]

And they have. They are planning to release a version without the code.

Really, well if its not their fault, then why on earth should they take responsibility for it?

 

[Nobody]

these idiots are reaking the greatest computer game ever made, get a life. And the original rating all ready said that it was too old for a 14 year old.

 

[Evie]

Because the hackers sure as hell won't take responsibility, and SOMEONE needs to repair the problem.

 

[Colonel]

What a load of rubbish. You're suggesting that kids that don't watch porn are 'screwed up'? So we should just allow hard-core porn to be sandwiched between sesame street and spongebob, because they can see it on the internet anyway?

First off a kid at age 13 and above that is still watching ths shows you mention on a regular basis I assure you has some problems. And I said nothing of putting hard-core porn in such places but if your buying the kid a game such a GTA expect some graphic material considering the orginal rating. M for 17 or above.

Please allow me, as a parent, to have some say / control over what children in my care are exposed to.

You do, there is this lovely little thing in tvs called a v-chip you goto menu, V-chip setup Tv-rating and block all the ratings you dont like you children watching. If the kid is young enough they wont figure how to fix it(although you still get MTV the News and the History Channel even with everything blocked). Now as for games, thats the Parents job to watch, you dont want your kid playing a M-Rated game DONT BUY IT, it simple you need someone 17 or older to buy the game. Now if you dont but it you just have to watch what you kids borrow from other kids, which once again is your job, the responability of being a parent.

Does sex education involve watching hardcore porn?

Didn't think so.

If only, If only sry couldnt resist. But seriously it doesnt involve watching hard-core porn but the second you start teaching a kid about something like that they are going to go look at without the class to see what it really looks like and not the censored version the teacher trys to pass off as how it truely works.

 

[GerrardCapashen]

Some people may actually buy games without knowing the content.
Son: "Hey mum - can I get this great game?"
Mother: "What is it?"
Son: "Its a car-racing game."
Mother: "Hmm. Its rated "mature" - mild violence. I've seen other 'mature' games, andthey've been OK."

If someone is so overprotective of their children it doesn't seem like they should be buying them games that are rated higher than their ages.

As has also been stated, I don't see why people are so messed up about sex. The entire game is about being a mobster (I haven't played it but I think this is a reasonable assumption) so I can't see how this is really worse than soliciting prostitution (actually I don't see why prostitution should be a crime, bad example) or killing people (this is definitely more antisocial and potentially dangerous to kids than whatever the mod adds).

Whatever. People in this country accept violence but not sex, and the ESRB reflects that. However I disagree with the argument that the company has the duty to remove the programming for the deleted scenes. Games are sent off to market with a lot of useless code contained that was scrapped in the final version. The standard practice is simply to delete the activation triggers that begin the removed material, as actually deleting thousands of lines of code can cause the whole program to fail, since games are complex amalgamations of various blocks of programming that are not discrete but depend on the others for their functions. So it is economically impossible to delete all the features that didn't make it into the final version before release.

As for kids lying to their parents about the mod being a patch, facts are, if a kid is smart enough and determined enough to get the mod, he/she is going to be able to get around any filters that have been placed to prevent undesireable websites form running. To put all the blame on Rockstar is simply to scapegoat them because one dislikes their product, as has been said several times already.

 

[rbis4rbb]

I agree that this lawsuit is fairly stupid, but I disagree with your reasoning.

Ignore this specific woman for a moment. Some people closely supervise their children's internet habits. They install things like "net nanny", or even don't let children go on the internet unsupervised.

Some people may actually buy games without knowing the content.
Son: "Hey mum - can I get this great game?"
Mother: "What is it?"
Son: "Its a car-racing game."
Mother: "Hmm. Its rated "mature" - mild violence. I've seen other 'mature' games, andthey've been OK."

<later>

Son: "Hey mum, this game is broken. I need to download a patch - can I go on the internet?"
Mother: "will that fix it?"
Son: "Yes - games get patches all the time."
Mother. "OK".

Just because porn is on the internet doesn't provide any justification for game manufacturers to act in this way. I have no problem with them putting this kind of content in a game, but it should be recognised and reflected in the game ratings.

Children are obviously not completely honest with their parents, but the parents don't deserve to have things like this trying to circumvent their precautions.

On the box, it says STRONG violence, drug use, sexual content, et al.

Plus, chances are, he's already googled "boobies," "MILF," or something else similair. I know a lot of kids with porn on their comp, I think almost every teen boy has gotten it off bearshare

 

[Grisu]

On the box, it says STRONG violence, drug use, sexual content, et al.

if that's really the case, this whole "scandal" just got even sillier, IMHO. and remember, in order to get this hack which will unlock some mild sexual content, you'll have to go to sites with REAL porn on them.....

if there's anybody to blame here, it's the granny who buys her grandkid a game that's rated beyond his years. whether that's 3 or 4 years really doesn't make a difference for me.

 

[FearlessLeader2]

Here's hoping the makers of GTA go bankrupt and end up in prison, gang-raped and dying of AIDS.