WOTM 46 - First Spoiler

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WOTM 46 First Spoiler



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Where did you settle?
Any problems so far?
How are the neighbours?
 
Isn't anyone playing this game? Real life has been interfering with my play, but I've at least gotten far enough for the first spoiler.

I settled Beijing SE of the starting location. I found more neighbors than I liked, closer than I liked. Brennus asked me to sever relations with Wang Kon, so I decided to go along with that suggestion and make W.K. my first target. War began in 225 BC, when I immediately captured a border city. By 1 AD, that's as far as the war has progressed.
 
I am playing it.

I moved the warrior SW and decided to settle 1E after seeing the tundra to the south.

My warrior continued to explore west, found Wang, and then discovered he was in the bottom west corner of the map. I sat the warrior next to Wang's corn and waited for the worker to show up. War started with the worker steal and ended with Wang dead and me with his 4 cities.

Stats at 1AD
7 cities, 28 pop, 27 beakers per turn at 20% sci, researching Alphabet, 5 cottages in cap, none anywhere else to date.
NO WONDERS, only Henge, GW, and Oracle built world wide.
 
I settled 1SE. Conscious of the likely shortage of land, my aim was a series of worker steals and wars to keep the AI around me weak (and hopefully prevent them all reaching longbows) allowing me to conquer them at my leisure without compromising science too much and then aim for space.

Mao’s First 5-year plan started off OK. I settled 1SE. Well that’s 40 years gone so onto the 8th 5-year plan… Anyway, while I build a worker (I want one worker guaranteed, even if warriors will soon bring me many more), the starting warrior circles around to the east and takes quite a while to find anything. But eventually - lo and behold: A celtic worker building a pasture on – apparently – empty grassland HA! That can only mean one thing, and the warrior swoops in for the kill. There’s a bear in the way but y’know – first barb encountered, free win against the barbs and – 1 turn later (how many 5-year plans?) the warrior is dead, the bear is (presumably since I can no longer see him) fatter, and the worker is (presumably) still building the pasture. And rather annoyingly, still Celtic.

Oh.

Maybe I need to figure out exactly how the free win I thought you had against the barbs is supposed to work?

No matter. I have just built a new warrior. He should just get to the worker in time.

A few turns later, 2nd warrior is dead, and bear is (presumably) even fatter.

Have the Celts started somehow recruiting animals as defenders?

This is not going well. I’ve explored almost nothing, and, it’s now probably too late for any worker steals. On to plan B: Grab as much land as I can by settling and hope I can get something to attack with soon. Turns out there’s no copper or horses nearby. I send a settler north to get the nice spot with rice, banana and lots of hills – a good production location - to discover Brennus is already there. So the settler goes NW instead to grab the cows and hills near the capital. Phew. At least I have 2 decent cities.

A couple of turns after I pasture the cows, Wang Kon’s culture expands and takes them. I can now only keep Shanghai viable by giving it the precious corn from the capital.

I have one capital, one now useless city, there’s one potential city spot SW of the capital. And (ignoring the ice) Everywhere else around me has been taken by the Celts, Koreans and Persians.

Would I get an award for ‘understatement of the year’ if I said ‘this is not looking good’?

What saved me was the appearance of iron near the starting area, and all those trees around. Chop chop. I don’t think I’ve ever demolished so many forests so quickly so early in the game. And at the end of it I have a very eager terra cotta swordsman army of 7 units and rapidly growing. A few turns later Wang Kon appears to have mysteriously had 2 cities razed to the ground (Mao whistles innocently) and the cows are mine again. Wang Kon might have kept his losses down to two cities if he hadn’t – about 5 turns later – been stupid enough settle a replacement city when my swordsmen were practically standing on the next tile!). Anyway, I then plant a settler of my own in the newly liberated lands to grab the horses and marble, and conclude I’ve probably weakened the Koreans enough and I should turn my attention to Brennus. So, peace with Korea, quick march to the East, get two Celtic cities (and get that rice/banana spot back :D), peace with Celtia, and now it’s time to prevent Cyrus getting too big for his boots. And that’s basically where I am at 0AD. Thanks to mass cottaging on all the flood plains in the capital, I’ve just managed to research construction, and my army of swordsmen, accompanied a couple of catapults, are about to brave the 60% defences of Persepolis.

I have just 5 cities, total pop 21, a rather low sustainable research rate of 18gpt at 40% science, but that’s partly because I’m paying 7gpt for all the swordsmen. And I suspect with an army this size I just might have a chance of some kind of victory……

With hindsight, on this map, building a worker first was probably not the most brilliant decision I’ve ever made. But a very fun game so far…. (Well, I suspect Wang Kon wouldn’t agree)
 
Unlike most people (probably) I settled on the gold itself. Long term plan was to cottage all the flood plains and have the capital as an Oxford University city and aim for space. Bit distracted in the BCs by attacking WK. managed to take all his cities bar the capital due to the amount of archers in it. So took a ceasefire instead hoping he would move them out.

World wonders I built the Parthenon and was well on the way to getting the GLib in the capital. Missed out on the Oracle though.
 
Just started this fine Warlords game. Thanks for setting it up, neil. Still like this expansion a lot.

Settled 2S mainly for the forests. Started with a worker and beelined pottery, I'm a confess addict to floodplains cottages. :)

Got WK's worker very early, settled 2nd city on the top of marble to get horses in BFC. Since we are protective, I decided to have some Drill LB fun this time. Oracled Feudalism and started to pump some 5XP LB's.

I planned to focus on WK but at some point Cyrus offered me 2x2 free workers and I couldn't pass up that opportunity. Took one of his cities too. Then I went for WK. He's now down to 1 iceball city next to silver. He wanted to capitulate but I'd rather finish him off later.

I have 9 cities, 40 pop, 12 workers (built 2 IIRC), 8 LB on the offensive and a bunch of warriors helping keep Beijing happy at size 13 - hereditary rule rules! ;)

By 1AD I'll learn CS, and get a GS in 2 turns. With Bureau and an academy, our research will skyrocket. We built GLib in Beijing a few turns ago. The AI's are definitely teching slow in this game.
 
I settled one SW so I could settle on T0. There was a 2:hammers: plot in the immediate culture ring and I correctly suspected a PF (3:hammers: plot) after a border pop to get the first worker out quick. I wanted to go 2W. I wanted to cash in on the 50% worker production benefit by building workers with hammers, not food. Both sites split FPs for city 1 and 2.

I had planned to settle on marble and oracle something good, but I underestimated the monarch AI (I am a BTS player) and was beat to the site.

I laid a serious egg for the BC turns. I don't know where all the turns went!

Anyway, Cities ... 4. Pop: 16. BPT 65 at 100%.

There is an upside. I bulbed machinery and engineering, and I am well on my way to a bad-ass war party. I've got 4 Cho-Ko-Nu's, and more trebs and Cho-Ko's coming. Man those Cho-Ko-Nu's are overpowered!

It was originally my plan to do the double bulb for Machinery and Engineering. I had wanted to do a chariot rush on WK, but as I said above I missed the Marble/horse/cow site.

I wanted to steal workers, but I was building cottages and the Warlord's AI seem to attack and pillage. Since I had nothing but warriors, I was afraid of losing all of my workers' efforts.
 
Loving the contrasting games in the bc's.

Will be very interesting to see how the different starts end up. :goodjob:
 
The beginning and cities:
- Warrior S - Settler NW
#1- Beijing 1N2W (3960 BC) – 1 cow, 1 corn, 1 gold
==> Worker / Warrior / Settler / Settler
#2- Shangai NE (2680 BC) – 1 banana, 1 rice
#3- Guangzhou S (2240 BC) – 1 deer, 1 incense
#4- Nanjing E (1560 BC) – 1 sheep, 1 incense
#5- Xian E (650 BC) – 1 sheep (shared with Nanjing)
- I’ve tried the Horses, but Wang arrived before :mad:. After that, there was no good places to settle another city (well, I guessed :confused:).

Technologies, Wonders and Great Persons:
- AH / BW / TW / Pott / Myst / Poly / Priest / Alpha / Lit / Civil Service (27t)…
- Techs traded: IW / Med / Hunt / Arch / Math / Mon…
- Stonehenge (1160 BC) – The Oracle (775 BC) => Code of Laws
The Parthenon (300 BC) – The Temple of Artemis (125 BC)
- I forgot about GP, but they appeared :blush:.

The game:
- The meetings: Wang Kon (3800 BC) – Cyrus (3560 BC) – Brennus (3240 BC) – Ragnar (1920 BC) – Churchill (1720 BC)
- Wang Kon declared with 2 chariots (125 BC) and one more time I wasn’t prepared. When I’ll learn to defend my territory :(?
- The intention: Study how it works the Specialist Economy (SE)!

1 AD:
- 5 cities (all founded) - Pop 19 / Treasury 23g
- 45 bpt at 100% / 30 bpt breakeven at 60%
- First in score (with more 5 Empires)
- No Army prepared…
 
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