WTH the Soldiers from XCOM: Enemy Unknown are in this game!

[Bad Wolf]

It's amazing to me what some consider a "deal-breaker". I mean do you really intend to deny yourself the pleasure you could experience playing BNW simply because you disagree with one extremely minor design choice?

 

[Sonereal]

I was fully prepared to cancel my preorder if Italy was included in the game over Venice.

 

[bouncymischa]

The "aliens" in the Civipedia's definition is referring to the classic definition of aliens. Namely foreigners.

To quote the Aliens movie,

"When they said 'aliens' she thought they meant 'illegal aliens' and signed up!"

 

[Bad Wolf]

Is it really any wonder gamers as a community have developed a reputation as being (at best) impossible to please?

 

[pilot00]

I'm pretty sure the game developers get to make the call on what's canon. Therefore, it can be safely assumed that XCOM, like the Renaissance and the discovery of iron working, is canon. In history.

You do understand that there is no direct historic continuation between the CiV series do you? CiV2 didnt start where one ended and so on.

Alpha Centauri though is the direct continuation of CiV 1 it has nothing to do with the rest of the CiV series and therefore is completely irrelevant to anything that has to do with X-Com and CiV in general. The only common ground is that the cannon as you say is that in all CiV games (as far as we can speculate that is), is that the end is the spaceship launch.

You can argue that SMAC is the direct sequel to Civilization, essentially dealing with what happens after the space race victory.

I accept that too but what has this to do with X-COM?

 

[Sonereal]

Is it really any wonder gamers as a community have developed a reputation as being (at best) impossible to please?

I have limited access to funds. I demand my money's worth. I am also a jerk.

You do understand that there is no direct historic continuation between the CiV series do you? CiV2 didnt start where one ended and so on.

Can you prove there isn't direct continuation between any of the Civ games and Alpha Centauri?

The fact that the XCOM unit is in game means, now, XCOM is a canon organization in your game if you ever get that far.

Of course, the idea of a military unit capable of being deployed rapidly to any place on the globe, and being armed with the most high tech weapons available, isn't exactly as bad as GDR. And by not exactly, I mean not at all.

 

[pilot00]

Can you prove there isn't direct continuation between any of the Civ games and Alpha Centauri?

The fact that the XCOM unit is in game means, now, XCOM is a canon organization in your game if you ever get that far.

Of course, the idea of a military unit capable of being deployed rapidly to any place on the globe, and being armed with the most high tech weapons available, isn't exactly as bad as GDR. And by not exactly, I mean not at all.

Mother of God!!!!!!!!!!Are we speaking English?

I said It damnly is a direct continuation, I say that IT HAS NO BEARING IN THE CIV GAMES THEMSELVES. That difficult I guess

 

[Sonereal]

MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!!! ARE WE SPEAKING ENGLISH?

Apparently we're speaking the dialect where all things have to be capitalized and multiple exclamations is a proper replacement for italics.

Of course, the answer could be no. We're not speaking English. My mouth hasn't moved once this entire conversation, if you can believe that.

I said It damnly is a direct continuation, I say that IT HAS NO BEARING IN THE CIV GAMES THEMSELVES. That difficult I guess

It damnly is a direct continuation. What is the difference being a damnly direct continuation and heavenly direct continuation, other than heavenly is considered a real word in Google Chrome?

I also don't know what "That difficult I guess means", but again, I speak a variant of the language where sentence fragments are frowned upon if you can't properly set up the joke.

 

[Strategist83]

I think it's pretty lame that they put a blatant advertisement for one of their other games in a paid PC game. If I want to see advertisements you can pay me to see them, thank you very much! Civ 5 is already being criticized by some for being cheap and a sellout so maybe putting a joke advertisement unit in the game wasn't the brightest idea.

Beyond that, the unit itself is ridiculously overpowered, even for being an ultimate late-game unit. 40 hex parajump is insane on a unit that can almost stand up to a GDR and requires no strategic resource.

 

[pilot00]

Apparently we're speaking the dialect where all things have to be capitalized and multiple exclamations is a proper replacement for italics.

Of course, the answer could be no. We're not speaking English. My mouth hasn't moved once this entire conversation, if you can believe that.



It damnly is a direct continuation. What is the difference being a damnly direct continuation and heavenly direct continuation, other than heavenly is considered a real word in Google Chrome?

I also don't know what "That difficult I guess means", but again, I speak a variant of the language where sentence fragments are frowned upon if you can't properly set up the joke.

I am sorry but I have done my share of arguments with trolls before and it doesn't lead anywhere, you can open the dictionary to find more classy words if it helps your argument I guess (what argument?) I suggest you read their meaning while you are at it too it will help a bit.

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EDIT: Google chrome really? I am not surprised....

EDIT2: Believe it or not I didnt notice that I had hit the caps in the first sentence. Fixed that.

 

[Socratatus]

I have X-com and play that because I want a game of X-com. I have Civ 5 and play that because I want some strategy in the Civilisation style.

I didn`t ask for them to be mixed up.

p.s. Simple solution: Make GDRs and Xcom units optional.

 

[Merciorum]

Except, of course, for the fact that XCOM is NOT "near future". At all. In any sense (unless you're willing to overlook the whole "fighting aliens" thing).

Fortunately I'll never get late enough in the game to see them.

And again, if you're looking for any semblance of history/reality, play a Paradox game. That's what I do when I want something deep and accurate. I play Civ because it's simple and fun. It doesn't really bother me if they want to add a few sci-fi elements around the edges.

 

[pilot00]

And again, if you're looking for any semblance of history/reality, play a Paradox game. That's what I do when I want something deep and accurate. I play Civ because it's simple and fun. It doesn't really bother me if they want to add a few sci-fi elements around the edges.

What about Harry Poter ones?

 

[bison21]

I don't like futuristic games and I always abort civ games once they are past the information era. Why don't you do that? I mean world congress and tourism picks up mid-game anyway, it's not that you loose tons of content by leaving out the future era. I find that the Giant Death Robot and stuff like that breaks the immersion for me, but it's a personal preference- I prefer medieval games because most futuristic stuff is stereotypical pew-pew. But that doesn't mean I ask for a design change, since many people seem to even prefer futuristic over ancient.

Thinking about it, I love sci-fi like Babylon5, Stargate SG-1 and Dr. Who but that is because of the science and character development, not because of laser pew pew pew.

 

[Civ'ed]

p.s. Simple solution: Make GDRs and Xcom units optional.

What, like in Next War?

 

[P A Y N E]

I don't like futuristic games and I always abort civ games once they are past the information era. Why don't you do that? I mean world congress and tourism picks up mid-game anyway, it's not that you loose tons of content by leaving out the future era. I find that the Giant Death Robot and stuff like that breaks the immersion for me, but it's a personal preference- I prefer medieval games because most futuristic stuff is stereotypical pew-pew. But that doesn't mean I ask for a design change, since many people seem to even prefer futuristic over ancient.

Thinking about it, I love sci-fi like Babylon5, Stargate SG-1 and Dr. Who but that is because of the science and character development, not because of laser pew pew pew.

Because less content and less tech options are better right? I mean as we all know we aren't allowed to advance past the modern ages.

 

[pilot00]

Because less content and less tech options are better right? I mean as we all know we aren't allowed to advance past the modern ages.

He actually posted quite outside the context of your response and believes that his opinion might be irrelevant to certain people who like said units

 

[poom3619]

What about Harry Poter ones?

It's still more historically accurate than Gandhi the Nuker, Zulu being Great Power or coexistence of Constantinople and Istanbul as two different city.

 

[Civ'ed]

It's still more historically accurate than Gandhi the Nuker, Zulu being Great Power or coexistence of Constantinople and Istanbul as two different city.

Isn't Byzantium also a city?

 

[Chiatroll]

The GDR and X-com units are in the game for two reasons:
a) fun
b) means for a conqueror to finish the game more quickly.

These units are balanced with other victory conditions, not other units. They are reminiscent of Germany's Wunderwaffe ("Wonder Weapons") concept of WW2.

I love that the german word for wonderful weapon makes me think of wonderful waffles.