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WVCivnut
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Rocoteh said:
You could add more special fortresses -- the square I landed in only had two and it was in one turn reach of Germany. Your 70 Def gun turrets might be a nice addition.
In WWII, Britain was relatively undefended after Dunkirk -- but Germany lacked a way of getting armies over there. So a solution might be to make transports very expensive, give the Allies some to start the game but only 1 or 2 special transports (transport cap 2) to the Germans. That would make the invasion much more difficult.
WVCivnut
King
Turns 23 to 25 report.
Production: 21 city improvements, 3 Panzer IIIe, 1 88s, 2 Me 110, 3 Me109, 2 Ju87b, 2 Uboats Type IX, 1 transports and 1 workers. Drafted 11 Inf.
Captured Corsica and Edinburgh (destroyed 5 planes on the ground).
Losses: 7 subs, 1 Lt Cruiser, 3 DD, 1 Ju87b.
Attacked British, French and US fleets -- sank 3 Light Cruisers, 33 DDs, 3 transports, 3 DD Flotilla and 11 subs. Shot down 3 British fighters over England.
Production: 21 city improvements, 3 Panzer IIIe, 1 88s, 2 Me 110, 3 Me109, 2 Ju87b, 2 Uboats Type IX, 1 transports and 1 workers. Drafted 11 Inf.
Captured Corsica and Edinburgh (destroyed 5 planes on the ground).
Losses: 7 subs, 1 Lt Cruiser, 3 DD, 1 Ju87b.
Attacked British, French and US fleets -- sank 3 Light Cruisers, 33 DDs, 3 transports, 3 DD Flotilla and 11 subs. Shot down 3 British fighters over England.
Bart S.
Sargent
I have learned a valuable lesson:
Dont take ur U-boats out near England... i lost 30+ u boats by 2nd turn due to this... and only sank 24 english warships, it seems the english have an unlimited supply of destroyers so my suggestion is to hide ur U boats in Hamburg and put 10 destroyers outside hamburg in the square with the fish .. when the british take out their fleet from Edinburg and destroy these u can bomb the british navy into submision and finish off whats left with ur U boats leaving most of the atlantic totally undefended .... and also the graph spee starts in the middle of the atlantic .. u should go north toward ur U boats instead of east like i did... ( there r 4 british DDs to the east and 1 battleship to the north of the DDs).
And the marine u start with is SUPER valuable what im doing with it is destroying the inmoble infantry outside london in raids it works like a charm after u bomb them with ur warships ... that way u dont have to commit bombers to doing this and those bombers and b used for destroying France and maybe Spain depending on ur intentions...
I have had a problem on turn 3 ... Italy attacked the Turks, now i ahve to defend south of yugoslavia until i beat the french and spanish ....
Dont take ur U-boats out near England... i lost 30+ u boats by 2nd turn due to this... and only sank 24 english warships, it seems the english have an unlimited supply of destroyers so my suggestion is to hide ur U boats in Hamburg and put 10 destroyers outside hamburg in the square with the fish .. when the british take out their fleet from Edinburg and destroy these u can bomb the british navy into submision and finish off whats left with ur U boats leaving most of the atlantic totally undefended .... and also the graph spee starts in the middle of the atlantic .. u should go north toward ur U boats instead of east like i did... ( there r 4 british DDs to the east and 1 battleship to the north of the DDs).
And the marine u start with is SUPER valuable what im doing with it is destroying the inmoble infantry outside london in raids it works like a charm after u bomb them with ur warships ... that way u dont have to commit bombers to doing this and those bombers and b used for destroying France and maybe Spain depending on ur intentions...
I have had a problem on turn 3 ... Italy attacked the Turks, now i ahve to defend south of yugoslavia until i beat the french and spanish ....
Hyperborean
Demiurge
Germany - v 1.9 - Sid - Week 10, 1941
Norway and Sweden eliminated. The 40 infantry divisions, together with the Luftwaffe and the artillery I used in the attack, are now being transferred to Siberia to finish off what remains of the Soviet union. Obdorsk, Omsk and Novosibirsk conquered. Yakutsk new Soviet capital. It's going to take a while to get there. I have no use for the extra movement of my panzers in the forests of Siberia, so I'm only going to use infantry, artillery and the Luftwaffe for this conquest, just as I did in Scandinavia. The panzers will be sent to the ME where I am preparing an invasion of Turkey.
Russia has only one T-26 left. They are attacking with motorized infantry instead, but they are rapidly running out of units.
Japan's city-razing continues. Jerusalem and Luxor destroyed. Mut and Bisciara conquered. Japan is now (finally) in full control of the Philippines. Over the last year Japan has lost it's control of Borneo, Timor and Palembang to the British. Japan's carriers have all been sunk. Even though the Americans have a formidable force (circa 150 infantry and 30 marines) Japan has 111 marines and 89 infantry. My forces are far more modest. I have around 50 infantry, 50 German 88, and 10 panzers. I have increased the size of the Luftwaffe but it's still inferior (in number) to the RAF. I have decided to use my SS armies only for defense, and never for attack. Otherwise they might fall to the Dark side.
Other news:
American carrier sunk at Bermuda. British battleship escort sunk outside Freetown in Africa. Tampere handed back to Finland (more cities will follow). Made a failed attempt to capture Kashmir from the British. Very hard to conquer cities on mountains. I need to bomb the city for weeks before I attack again. Greeks still at war with the Turks. They really hate each other. So I guess that war is realistic.
Norway and Sweden eliminated. The 40 infantry divisions, together with the Luftwaffe and the artillery I used in the attack, are now being transferred to Siberia to finish off what remains of the Soviet union. Obdorsk, Omsk and Novosibirsk conquered. Yakutsk new Soviet capital. It's going to take a while to get there. I have no use for the extra movement of my panzers in the forests of Siberia, so I'm only going to use infantry, artillery and the Luftwaffe for this conquest, just as I did in Scandinavia. The panzers will be sent to the ME where I am preparing an invasion of Turkey.
Russia has only one T-26 left. They are attacking with motorized infantry instead, but they are rapidly running out of units.
Japan's city-razing continues. Jerusalem and Luxor destroyed. Mut and Bisciara conquered. Japan is now (finally) in full control of the Philippines. Over the last year Japan has lost it's control of Borneo, Timor and Palembang to the British. Japan's carriers have all been sunk. Even though the Americans have a formidable force (circa 150 infantry and 30 marines) Japan has 111 marines and 89 infantry. My forces are far more modest. I have around 50 infantry, 50 German 88, and 10 panzers. I have increased the size of the Luftwaffe but it's still inferior (in number) to the RAF. I have decided to use my SS armies only for defense, and never for attack. Otherwise they might fall to the Dark side.
Other news:
American carrier sunk at Bermuda. British battleship escort sunk outside Freetown in Africa. Tampere handed back to Finland (more cities will follow). Made a failed attempt to capture Kashmir from the British. Very hard to conquer cities on mountains. I need to bomb the city for weeks before I attack again. Greeks still at war with the Turks. They really hate each other. So I guess that war is realistic.
IarnGreiper
Warlord
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I tried this scenario with the German civ at emperor level v1.9.
I used a rather unconventional approach and send my troops west from the beginning using only a small part of my troops to conquer Poland. I produced mainly bombers.
The AI seemed to react badly to this move as I seized Kopenhagen, Brussels and Amsterdam during my first week (this was somewhat expected). However the French AI totally freaked out and let me take Paris without any real resistance (ok some people will claim this is close to history
). I don t think taking Paris in turn 37 is reasonable. However after taking Paris I was forced to be defensive for the next 2 rounds. All my German 88s all gave birth to a great leader due to the endless waves of AI units thrown at me. After I consolidated my forces in turn 39 the British AI seemed to have some "magic" knowledge of my air defences since they only attacked cities without fighters duing air superiority mission. This may be normal AI cheating. After turn 40 in turned my ground forces east and seized the easy targets in south/eastern Europe. The British AI now had its darkest hour when they bombarded Amsterdam for several rounds in the early forties. With me only producing bombers (old panzer general habit) this was suicide move. I managed to kill almost the entire UK fleet in the atlantic with a combined force of bombers and submarines in dutch waters (my airspace). With the British Navy commiting suicide in Dutch waters, the invasion of GB was a mere joke (bombarding Edinbourgh was free for both the German navy as the Luftwaffe since no fighters interfered). In the late forties of 1939 I take GB town by town while my ground forces have much greater problems with Turkey than with Operation Sealion.
While I enjoy the fact unconventional strategies can surprise the AI enemy I have to admit the AI made my victory to easy. The defense of Paris was even more confused that RL French strategic fumbles. However, the British AI sacrificing most of their fleet sieging Amsterdam turns out to be the key problem. While the German navy got free target dummies, the British Navy totally crumbled in a few turns (39/43) from dominating to pityful for nothing to achieve.
PS Sorry for my poor English, I am quite drunk (believe it or not but I felt an urgent need to kill hat particular bottle of champagne after Operation Sealion turned out to be sucsessful)
I used a rather unconventional approach and send my troops west from the beginning using only a small part of my troops to conquer Poland. I produced mainly bombers.
The AI seemed to react badly to this move as I seized Kopenhagen, Brussels and Amsterdam during my first week (this was somewhat expected). However the French AI totally freaked out and let me take Paris without any real resistance (ok some people will claim this is close to history
). I don t think taking Paris in turn 37 is reasonable. However after taking Paris I was forced to be defensive for the next 2 rounds. All my German 88s all gave birth to a great leader due to the endless waves of AI units thrown at me. After I consolidated my forces in turn 39 the British AI seemed to have some "magic" knowledge of my air defences since they only attacked cities without fighters duing air superiority mission. This may be normal AI cheating. After turn 40 in turned my ground forces east and seized the easy targets in south/eastern Europe. The British AI now had its darkest hour when they bombarded Amsterdam for several rounds in the early forties. With me only producing bombers (old panzer general habit) this was suicide move. I managed to kill almost the entire UK fleet in the atlantic with a combined force of bombers and submarines in dutch waters (my airspace). With the British Navy commiting suicide in Dutch waters, the invasion of GB was a mere joke (bombarding Edinbourgh was free for both the German navy as the Luftwaffe since no fighters interfered). In the late forties of 1939 I take GB town by town while my ground forces have much greater problems with Turkey than with Operation Sealion. While I enjoy the fact unconventional strategies can surprise the AI enemy I have to admit the AI made my victory to easy. The defense of Paris was even more confused that RL French strategic fumbles. However, the British AI sacrificing most of their fleet sieging Amsterdam turns out to be the key problem. While the German navy got free target dummies, the British Navy totally crumbled in a few turns (39/43) from dominating to pityful for nothing to achieve.
PS Sorry for my poor English, I am quite drunk (believe it or not but I felt an urgent need to kill hat particular bottle of champagne after Operation Sealion turned out to be sucsessful)
The Omega
Completely Insane
Why does it seem that I'm the only one who isn't playing as Germany?
An interesting thing in my current game as America is the Allies huge amount of success. France held off the Germans for a freakishly large amount of time at Paris, and even was able to counterattack into Germany a few times before they finally fell. China also held of the Japanese advance, and even after they started losing ground, Britain came to the rescue and started blitzing through Japanese territory. Italy was driven out of Africa around the start of 1940, and the Japanese fleet has been completely wiped off of the map. The only problem with all this is how the British keep taking cities after I've killed/redlined all the defenders in them....... Stupid Brits....
An interesting thing in my current game as America is the Allies huge amount of success. France held off the Germans for a freakishly large amount of time at Paris, and even was able to counterattack into Germany a few times before they finally fell. China also held of the Japanese advance, and even after they started losing ground, Britain came to the rescue and started blitzing through Japanese territory. Italy was driven out of Africa around the start of 1940, and the Japanese fleet has been completely wiped off of the map. The only problem with all this is how the British keep taking cities after I've killed/redlined all the defenders in them....... Stupid Brits....
WVCivnut
King
I'm playing the German special edition just for the challenge. I won as USA then Britain easily on v1.9 Sid. The AI is sooooo stupid. 
WVCivnut
King
Turns 26 to 28 report.
Production: 14 city improvements, 3 Panzer IIIe, 3 88s, 1 Uboats Type IX, 1 Bismark, 1 Deutschland and 1 workers. Drafted 10 Inf.
Captured Birmingham and Wick.
Losses: 5 subs, 1 Inf, 9 DD, 6 Panzer IIIe, 2 He111, 2 Me110, and 1 Marine.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 3 Light Cruisers, 18 DDs, 1 transports, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 12 subs.
Production: 14 city improvements, 3 Panzer IIIe, 3 88s, 1 Uboats Type IX, 1 Bismark, 1 Deutschland and 1 workers. Drafted 10 Inf.
Captured Birmingham and Wick.
Losses: 5 subs, 1 Inf, 9 DD, 6 Panzer IIIe, 2 He111, 2 Me110, and 1 Marine.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 3 Light Cruisers, 18 DDs, 1 transports, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 12 subs.
Bart S.
Sargent
It seems the British enjoy bombarding amsterdam and leaving their navy out in the open for my bombers.... i have come to the conclusion that i dont need a large land force... so im building LOTS of bombers and fighters and have pulverized the RAF ...
(10 fighters and 4 bombers left to the RAF) I captured the small northern countries easly now... but i had huge dificulties at france... have generated 4 leaders now. the turks and greeks are at war with each other and with me and italy .(thanks to italy) i have not invaded them , i just set some defenses and will not attack them until i amass my forces for my invasion against russia...the british are going to be a piece of candy (not even worth saying cake) they barely have a navy or airforce... i am entering turn 6 in monarch ...
ps: those stinking frenchies (no offense to the french) are really a pain! i cant believe it how long they have held out! im really getting annoyed ... have taken paris, lyon and marseilles but they still seem to b producing fighters every turn to counter my bombers! it total AI cheating! and also while im taking a city conscrips keep showing up as i keep destroying infantry ... IT AINT EVEN THEIR TURN!
(10 fighters and 4 bombers left to the RAF) I captured the small northern countries easly now... but i had huge dificulties at france... have generated 4 leaders now. the turks and greeks are at war with each other and with me and italy .(thanks to italy) i have not invaded them , i just set some defenses and will not attack them until i amass my forces for my invasion against russia...the british are going to be a piece of candy (not even worth saying cake) they barely have a navy or airforce... i am entering turn 6 in monarch ...
ps: those stinking frenchies (no offense to the french) are really a pain! i cant believe it how long they have held out! im really getting annoyed ... have taken paris, lyon and marseilles but they still seem to b producing fighters every turn to counter my bombers! it total AI cheating! and also while im taking a city conscrips keep showing up as i keep destroying infantry ... IT AINT EVEN THEIR TURN!
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
wow, i really wanna know how this turns out. usually i give my luftwaffe a second priority in terms of production. i don't bomb england at all, and for the most part they have left me alone. i haven't had any RAF bombardment since the first weeks of the war. i don't even have more than four fighters protecting the skies of northern france. i usually experience more losses in my army, so i have most of my cities producing tanks, a couple producing infantry, and about five producing german 88s. but i only have four producing aircrafts. i still have over 100 aircrafts, but only about 80 tanks and a lot of them are damaged, so you can imagine. plus, you'll need the big size when you fight russia. they'll throw a couple hunderd tanks at you to begin with. and then produce 30 every couple of turns. that's what happened to me. so i'll suggest build a more balanced force, and don't bomb england, finish france and go for russia as soon as possible, cause from now on, the road only gets tougher. i leave england alone for the last. i take all their colonies (except for the far east) and leave them on their own till i finish the rest of the opposition - mainly russia. then i like to have some fun with them with my V-2 rockets while i take on America. this is how I play my game. some people take out Britain early - thats the way they like it i guess.Bart S. said:
Bart S.
Sargent
Operation Sealion will be soon, will have some sreenshots for you!
and im getting along good with the russians for now but i just dont have the army to invade them yet! will need probably some 170 tanks and 50 infantry ... plus LOTS of fighters to shoot those bombers down .... oh and about 30 artillery ... so i guess im gonna have to invade them by summer of 42' .. if the war starts earlier ( which probably will cuz of the italians) im gonna have a hard time lol .
and im getting along good with the russians for now but i just dont have the army to invade them yet! will need probably some 170 tanks and 50 infantry ... plus LOTS of fighters to shoot those bombers down .... oh and about 30 artillery ... so i guess im gonna have to invade them by summer of 42' .. if the war starts earlier ( which probably will cuz of the italians) im gonna have a hard time lol .
WVCivnut
King
Turns 29 to 31 report.
Production: 42 city improvements, 2 Panzer IIIe, 1 88s, 3 SS, 2 Ju87b, 1 Deutschland, 1 transport, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 Me110 and 2 workers. Drafted 12 Inf.
Captured Belfast, Plymouth, and Reykiavik (eliminated Denmark).
Losses: 3 subs, 4 Inf, 2 DD, 3 Panzer IIIe, 1 Hitler, 1 Me109, and the Blucher.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 2 Light Cruisers, 5 DDs, 3 transports, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 2 subs. Landed two transports of men in North Africa near Algiers (the French capital) -- 8 Inf and 4 88s.
The Allies are having a mighty fight with the Soviets in the ME.
Production: 42 city improvements, 2 Panzer IIIe, 1 88s, 3 SS, 2 Ju87b, 1 Deutschland, 1 transport, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 Me110 and 2 workers. Drafted 12 Inf.
Captured Belfast, Plymouth, and Reykiavik (eliminated Denmark).
Losses: 3 subs, 4 Inf, 2 DD, 3 Panzer IIIe, 1 Hitler, 1 Me109, and the Blucher.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 2 Light Cruisers, 5 DDs, 3 transports, 2 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 2 subs. Landed two transports of men in North Africa near Algiers (the French capital) -- 8 Inf and 4 88s.
The Allies are having a mighty fight with the Soviets in the ME.
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IarnGreiper
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BTW has somebody version 1.7 (savegames) online? After all I strongly dislike the insane strength of Turkey in the current version. I understand the reasoning behind the changes but I dislike the new defensive superpower.
I totally botched my strategy on joining my forces in the middle east since Turkey turned out to be a Phyrrus victory for the Wehrmacht in my game since it costed me more resources than any other European power (exept Russia which I didn t dare to touch, because I lost half of my troops in Turkey.
PS I encountered a strange bug, the game is very likely to freeze when I use bombers (He 111) to bombard either Crete or Suez. Never happened anywhere else.
PPS Why there is a Norwegian unit in west of Kopenhagen?
I totally botched my strategy on joining my forces in the middle east since Turkey turned out to be a Phyrrus victory for the Wehrmacht in my game since it costed me more resources than any other European power (exept Russia which I didn t dare to touch, because I lost half of my troops in Turkey.
PS I encountered a strange bug, the game is very likely to freeze when I use bombers (He 111) to bombard either Crete or Suez. Never happened anywhere else.
PPS Why there is a Norwegian unit in west of Kopenhagen?
Bart S.
Sargent
crap! those norwegians attacked me after they made me move my minefields! now i gotta invade em before i invade the british ..... oh i pushed the french out of europe (FINNALY!) it is insane how many conscripts they made per turn... i had to draft 12 conscripts per turn for 4 turns in a row to capture marseilles and greece at the same time! and to send some troops over to norway ... i thought the french were easy in WW2, instead i lost nearly 40 units and made 6 leaders, o and sealion is also delayed now cuz i have to invade those turks ... but im bombing them into redlining first... if not i will lose too many people .
The british brought about 30 more ships from africa to the west of england, ive sunk about 10 but still more keep coming from the south! the RAF is has grown a little.. abot 17 fighters and 19 bombers ... still no match for my Luftwaffe, i also sunk 23 american destroyers.. they were all damaged, i dont know who damaged them but i think it was italy.
The british brought about 30 more ships from africa to the west of england, ive sunk about 10 but still more keep coming from the south! the RAF is has grown a little.. abot 17 fighters and 19 bombers ... still no match for my Luftwaffe, i also sunk 23 american destroyers.. they were all damaged, i dont know who damaged them but i think it was italy.
WVCivnut
King
Turns 32 to 36 report.
Production: 36 city improvements, 1 Panzer IIIe, 1 Recon Plane, 4 SS, 5 Ju87b, 1 transport, 2 DD Flotilla, 2 Me110 and 1 workers. Drafted 16 Inf -- 4 per turn max.
Captured Algiers and Rabat. London is getting whittled down -- I'm shelling with artillery and naval guns and attacking with fast units that can withdraw if losing.
Losses: 4 subs, 3 Inf, 1 SS, 4 Panzer IIIe, 1 Panzer II, 2 Hitler, and 2 88s to the French in Africa (but I still wiped out their tank stack of 7 Somua.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 5 Light Cruisers, 4 DDs, 1 transports, 5 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 2 subs.
The Allies made peace with the Soviets.
German's stole Sea 1940 from the US.
Production: 36 city improvements, 1 Panzer IIIe, 1 Recon Plane, 4 SS, 5 Ju87b, 1 transport, 2 DD Flotilla, 2 Me110 and 1 workers. Drafted 16 Inf -- 4 per turn max.
Captured Algiers and Rabat. London is getting whittled down -- I'm shelling with artillery and naval guns and attacking with fast units that can withdraw if losing.
Losses: 4 subs, 3 Inf, 1 SS, 4 Panzer IIIe, 1 Panzer II, 2 Hitler, and 2 88s to the French in Africa (but I still wiped out their tank stack of 7 Somua.
Attacked British and US fleets -- sank 5 Light Cruisers, 4 DDs, 1 transports, 5 DD Flotilla, 1 BB and 2 subs.
The Allies made peace with the Soviets.
German's stole Sea 1940 from the US.
eaglefox
Chhatrapati
i am sorry if this question was asked before, but is there an estimated release date for the version with the larger map?
Bart S.
Sargent
There seems to be a problem... when ships that cant see subs go into a submarine's square a war is declared, i have seen this happen twice, once with norway and me, and another with US and norway.
I am beating the norwegians with just conscripts and some ships(really easy).havent lost any untis and i have destroyed 7.
Invasion of turkey started, lost 2 hungarian infantry while destroying thos 4 fortresses.
The US brought some heavy cruisers to outside of brest, they are almost all sunk, only 5 left out of 9.They also have 2 aircraftcarriers and some destroyers which are all damaged now, but not sunk. ( i have most of my airpower destroying turkish defenses.
I am beating the norwegians with just conscripts and some ships(really easy).havent lost any untis and i have destroyed 7.
Invasion of turkey started, lost 2 hungarian infantry while destroying thos 4 fortresses.
The US brought some heavy cruisers to outside of brest, they are almost all sunk, only 5 left out of 9.They also have 2 aircraftcarriers and some destroyers which are all damaged now, but not sunk. ( i have most of my airpower destroying turkish defenses.
Bart S.
Sargent
WVCivnut
King
That's why I restricted myself to only drafting from a max of two cities per turn.
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