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Rocoteh said:
Hubschrauber,

That is faster than I thought.

Thank you for the info!

Rocoteh

Seriously? U gotta be kidding me that map is HUGE!!!! Guess I'll get started tonight. What are the times like in-between turns?
 
Wow, I am extremely confused. A couple months ago (well, actually I think it was last summer) I played this scenario, I can't remember which version, and the map seemed to be... a lot smaller. I am sure it was the same scenario. Am I crazy? Is there a smaller version available that I was playing on? I downloaded this scenario and the map is a lot bigger than the one I played on last summer.
Someone help me out, if only so I don't have to think I'm crazy. If my assumption is correct, and there is just a smaller version, provide a link to it please.
 
Dunedain: Yes,Rocoteh changed the map around version 2.0? I don't believe the smaller map version is still available; however, don't worry, this version actually plays faster due to some things he implemented that were discovered after this scenario was originally made. From my experience with both map versions this one is MUCH faster! ;)

Pazza: Depends on your computer speed; mine is a really old compy so I won't give you useful numbers with my dino-drive. Note that the very first few turns seem to take longer then usual, but after that turns are faster. Especially after the initial surge of naval bloodletting and a few minors getting eliminated, it goes much better.

France, Sid, Week 16,1940: Rome has fallen! I was able to take the southern half of Italy due to Germany remaining at war with USSR. Zero movement on the eastern front, though from my spy reports Germany is down to 19 PzIIIe now. Not good for them. Japan is down to just 7! tanks; I am pretty sure their resources to build them in most of their cites gets cut off once the axis goes to war with USSR. Moscow's air trade enabling wonder has had far more far reaching effects on this scenario then I would have thought since you changed the trade rules Rocoteh.

Btw, I took Rome, and the wonder there disappeared! Was that supposed to happen? I was counting on the air trade to reduce the unrest in my Italian conquests, grrrr.:mad:

The axis is doing very poorly this time around. Not sure if it is bad luck, the early war with USSR interrupting their offensive build ups, or maybe something I did. :crazyeye: Well I doubt it was that last one.:lol: Japan has lost Truk twice now, Okinawa,and a city north of Tokyo was razed. They have pretty much stalemated where they are due to lack of tanks perhaps, though I do see they razed one of the little Soviets cities NW of Manchuria. Idiots. They could have used that city I'm sure. This one could end by the end of 1940,at least the German/Italy part, if they don't get their rear in gear. I think I am going to play into the Allied/Soviet war part a bit if it does. Should be interesting. Axis NEEDS peace with the Soviets like right now, but will the AI realize it?
 
Italy 2.2, Chieftan

Week 5
Germans take Lille. Just noticed Portsmouth population down to 1. Seems that Germans are very interesting in taking Britain.

Week 6 Marseilles
French Battlecruiser Strasbourg has shown up at Tunis. Seems the rats are fleeing the sinking ship as Germany sweeps through France. 1st Alpine Div falls at Marseilles. 3rd Alpine Div takes Marseilles.

Week 7
That British BB, the Ramillies, that fled the Med awhile back is now shelling Caluula on the Horn of Africa. Stupid AI.

Week 8
A French DD attacked my fortress at Benghazi. The Luftwaffe bombed Lyon followed by an attack force of 2 panzers. Strange that Germany would go after Lyon before taking Paris or Strasbourg, but I'm not complaining as it makes it easier for me to take Lyon. Thanks again for the help Hitler.

Week 9
French Battlecruiser Strasbourg sunk in port of Tunis by Italian BBs.
 
I don't know if anyone has been reporting as the U.S. or not, but I am anyway.

Turn 36-Moved naval units. My goal: provide a standstill in the Pacific War by Week 10 1940.

Turn 37-WWI DD spotted 3 Japanese subs. Sank one. Ended turn.

Turn 38-Japanese sunk 1 destroyer. Sunk 4 Japanese subs with WWI DD, loss of one WWDD. Also, I spotted the Admiral Graf Spee off the coast of Puerto Rico. Attacked it with 1 Heavy cruiser and brought it down to about half health. Attacked it with 8 WWIDD and brought it down to 2 health.

Turn 39- Cannot tell if the Graf Spee was sunk by Allied forces or is retreating to Germany harbor,
 
If I were playing as USA, my main goals would be to hold onto the Phillipines as long as possible. While doing this, of course, I would be building up my Industry and Research. Than slowly build a giant force to invade the Japanese mainland. From their I would take over Manchuria and head south into China.

Just wanted to post that!
 
1941: United States has had all of the aircraft in Davao moved out and has been attacked rapidly by oncoming Japanese forces. Started to institute the draft in Davao. Launched new ships: Block Island(Escort Carrier), Phillipine(Battlecruiser), Kentucky(Battleship), Independence(Carrier C2) Okinawa(Escort Carrier). First Iowa-Class battleship is being built. Hundreds of thousands of American troops hit the shores at Brest to reinforce the already occupying forces. The Soviet Union seemed doomed until my forces landed, diverting most of the panzers, allowing the Soviets time to build the T34 tanks, which mauled the Germans and later pushed them all the way back to the city of Leipzig! My troops fought the Germans, and they fought back fiercely, but the M3 Lee/Grant tank spam eventually forced the German panzers to be destroyed. British did something helpful :eek: and landed a lot of troops around Paris (after i had already pushed the germans back to Antwerp). We progressed all the way and took the Hamburg-Stettin-Berlin-and-Rostock area. the Soviets handled everything east of that. M4 Sherman research is complete, which turned the tide of the war completely. B17s, and B-24's also researched, and they packed a big punch. Sank a Bismarck class off the coast of London. After sucessfully conquering the cities of Brussels, Verdun, Lelie, Paris, Brest, Strasburg, Antwerp, Bresleau, and Nardu (is that right?) i gave them back to the original owners, except Bresleau, which i gave to the Nehterlands. Victory in Europe day was celebrated a bit early, because the Germans had no way of coming back. Another interesting fact I found out was that they were getting oil from nowhere. They weren't trading with Finland, Japan, Italy, or any other country. Oh well, we still fried those panzers. After VE, all airplanes, troops, ships and workers were evacuated back to America, except for an occupational force for the cities i still had there. B17's found and sucessfully bombed the Haruna and the Yamashiro but didn't sink them. Alaska sank about 4 more destroyers and 1 transport. 4 more YamatoC's spotted. The Japanese seemed doomed from now on! :lol: :goodjob: troops goodjob
 
Soviet Union, 2.0, Regent.

1939 - Avoided fighting, set up 4 worker factory cities, a little artillery
production, a little infantry production, and much infrastructure production.

1940 - About mid - year, decided I had enough artillery to go after the
Turks. Took a while to get through those accursed fortresses, but Turkey
was wiped out, and their cities getting built up for mass production.

Late in the year, spies reported that Germany was much weaker than I
would have supposed (only 23 panzers), so I launched Bagatrion in Week 47 by taking Petsamo. The first two turns afterward, I had to deal
with panzer attacks (and temporarily lost Lublin and Vilnius), but this also
allowed me to blast them out of existence with arty and T-34s. After that,
it was a slowish but steady process to capture all their cities. I immediately
followed up with an invasion of Spain (interestingly, the Germans had captured
Gibraltar (ROP?), then the Brits beat me to it). Then, mainland Italy, Yugoslavia, and mainland Greece. Japan, meanwhile, had done nothing besides land a paratrooper on Sakhalin Island, whose stay was quite short.
Japan as a whole hadn't been doing too well; Beijing and two other Chinese
cities had been destroyed, but they hadn't captured anything else that I
could tell. By Week 29 of 1941, I had captured the Japanese home islands,
and all of their mainland posessions except Kalgan and Port Arthur, which the
Brits captured. The Brits also had captured all of Japan's Pacific holdings
except for Okinawa and the Kurile Islands.

Deciding that waiting would only put me in a worse position, I took a
couple of weeks to repair and relocate units, then attacked the Allies
(starting with Port Arthur). Since then, I have been doing a pincer, one
side in China, the other launched from Turkey. As of Week 42, I have
captured the Arabian Penensula except for Aden, wiped out Persia, and
China down through Shanghai. I have not done much in the mountains of
western China yet, but I am knocking at the door of British India.

After I captured Suez, the French obligingly sent all their tanks just outside
the city so I could obliterate them. The British are starting to do the same.

The Americans have sent 3 small task forces against me; all have been
wiped out. Haven't seen much of the Royal Navy yet...

This may have already been fixed, but Stettin is still producing U-boat
Type IX, and Berlin is still producing SS infantry.
 
Week 30:
I destroyed the British Tibet expeditionary Corps with my Luftwaffe.
New BB ready: Mollwitz.
I decided to make an anti submarine patrol with T 10. It spotted 4 US subs en route to Gibraltar. The CV Leo Leonhardy again is sent to take out the boats. So now all of his Stukas are elite. The last damaged submarine, my FW 190 couldn´t sink it, was sunk by U 95.
In Africa Agades and Timbuktu fell to me. Also Aden is mine thanks to an amphibious landing.
In Russia Kumara is mine. There I have soon connection to the Pacific.

PC turn:
I had some fight with the Russians and British. I lost in Africa and India a Pz III G each, but destroyed two British tanks also. Kumana is also attacked by Soviet infantry. It was a senseless attack as they were unable to do any harm. But respect for their courage.
Also my new Pz IV F2 are ready replacing the Pz III G in production.

Adler
 
Week 31:
In Africa my naval planes gave CAS for my troops in Ethiopia en route to Addis Abeba.
New BB ready: Königgrätz.

PC turn:
In Africa I shot down a Belgish bomber as well killed 2 British infantry for the loss of one 88 FlaK.
Also US BB C2 spotted off North America.

Adler
 
pazza said:
Seriously? U gotta be kidding me that map is HUGE!!!! Guess I'll get started tonight. What are the times like in-between turns?

pazza,

According to reports its 5-10 minutes between turns.

Rocoteh
 
Dunedein said:
Wow, I am extremely confused. A couple months ago (well, actually I think it was last summer) I played this scenario, I can't remember which version, and the map seemed to be... a lot smaller. I am sure it was the same scenario. Am I crazy? Is there a smaller version available that I was playing on? I downloaded this scenario and the map is a lot bigger than the one I played on last summer.
Someone help me out, if only so I don't have to think I'm crazy. If my assumption is correct, and there is just a smaller version, provide a link to it please.

Dunedein,

With start version 2.1 the map is huge.
That have made the scenario much more interesting to play.

Rocoteh
 
Sasebo,

Thank you for the report.

"France, Sid, Week 16,1940: Rome has fallen! I was able to take the southern half of Italy due to Germany remaining at war with USSR. Zero movement on the eastern front, though from my spy reports Germany is down to 19 PzIIIe now. Not good for them. Japan is down to just 7! tanks; I am pretty sure their resources to build them in most of their cites gets cut off once the axis goes to war with USSR. Moscow's air trade enabling wonder has had far more far reaching effects on this scenario then I would have thought since you changed the trade rules Rocoteh."
Sasebo

OK I will look this problem over.

"Btw, I took Rome, and the wonder there disappeared! Was that supposed to happen? I was counting on the air trade to reduce the unrest in my Italian conquests, grrrr."
Sasebo

Disappeared!
That is very strange. I have never heard about it earlier.

"The axis is doing very poorly this time around. Not sure if it is bad luck, the early war with USSR interrupting their offensive build ups, or maybe something I did. Well I doubt it was that last one. Japan has lost Truk twice now, Okinawa,and a city north of Tokyo was razed. They have pretty much stalemated where they are due to lack of tanks perhaps, though I do see they razed one of the little Soviets cities NW of Manchuria. Idiots. They could have used that city I'm sure"
Sasebo

The weak play from Japan-AI is no doubt a problem.

"I think I am going to play into the Allied/Soviet war part a bit if it does. Should be interesting. Axis NEEDS peace with the Soviets like right now, but will the AI realize it?"
Sasebo

Yes that is a good question.

Thank you and welcome back.


Rocoteh
 
imgrumpy,

"Italy 2.2, Chieftan

Week 5
Germans take Lille. Just noticed Portsmouth population down to 1. Seems that Germans are very interesting in taking Britain."
imgrumpy


Down to 1. I hope it not will be auto-razed.

"Week 6 Marseilles
French Battlecruiser Strasbourg has shown up at Tunis. Seems the rats are fleeing the sinking ship as Germany sweeps through France. 1st Alpine Div falls at Marseilles. 3rd Alpine Div takes Marseilles."
imgrumpy

Germany-AI moving at last!

"Week 7
That British BB, the Ramillies, that fled the Med awhile back is now shelling Caluula on the Horn of Africa. Stupid AI."
imgrumpy

Agree.

"Week 8
A French DD attacked my fortress at Benghazi. The Luftwaffe bombed Lyon followed by an attack force of 2 panzers. Strange that Germany would go after Lyon before taking Paris or Strasbourg, but I'm not complaining as it makes it easier for me to take Lyon. Thanks again for the help Hitler."
imgrumpy

You will be able to occupy a good part of France.


Thank you and welcome back.


Rocoteh
 
Hubschrauber said:
If I were playing as USA, my main goals would be to hold onto the Phillipines as long as possible. While doing this, of course, I would be building up my Industry and Research. Than slowly build a giant force to invade the Japanese mainland. From their I would take over Manchuria and head south into China.

Just wanted to post that!

Hubschrauber,

An interesting plan.
I doubt Japan-AI would have a good response on such a plan.

Rocoteh
 
pazza said:
I don't know if anyone has been reporting as the U.S. or not, but I am anyway.

Turn 36-Moved naval units. My goal: provide a standstill in the Pacific War by Week 10 1940.

Turn 37-WWI DD spotted 3 Japanese subs. Sank one. Ended turn.

Turn 38-Japanese sunk 1 destroyer. Sunk 4 Japanese subs with WWI DD, loss of one WWDD. Also, I spotted the Admiral Graf Spee off the coast of Puerto Rico. Attacked it with 1 Heavy cruiser and brought it down to about half health. Attacked it with 8 WWIDD and brought it down to 2 health.

Turn 39- Cannot tell if the Graf Spee was sunk by Allied forces or is retreating to Germany harbor,

pazza,

A good goal.

Looking forward to follow this playtest.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Prometheus1992,

"1941: United States has had all of the aircraft in Davao moved out and has been attacked rapidly by oncoming Japanese forces. Started to institute the draft in Davao. Launched new ships: Block Island(Escort Carrier), Phillipine(Battlecruiser), Kentucky(Battleship), Independence(Carrier C2) Okinawa(Escort Carrier). First Iowa-Class battleship is being built. Hundreds of thousands of American troops hit the shores at Brest to reinforce the already occupying forces. The Soviet Union seemed doomed until my forces landed, diverting most of the panzers, allowing the Soviets time to build the T34 tanks, which mauled the Germans and later pushed them all the way back to the city of Leipzig!"
Prometheus1992

The second front you created seems like a very good move.
Now your position is heavily improved.

"My troops fought the Germans, and they fought back fiercely, but the M3 Lee/Grant tank spam eventually forced the German panzers to be destroyed. British did something helpful and landed a lot of troops around Paris (after i had already pushed the germans back to Antwerp)."
Prometheus1992

That is a surprise!

"We progressed all the way and took the Hamburg-Stettin-Berlin-and-Rostock area. the Soviets handled everything east of that. M4 Sherman research is complete, which turned the tide of the war completely. B17s, and B-24's also researched, and they packed a big punch. Sank a Bismarck class off the coast of London. After sucessfully conquering the cities of Brussels, Verdun, Lelie, Paris, Brest, Strasburg, Antwerp, Bresleau, and Nardu (is that right?) i gave them back to the original owners, except Bresleau, which i gave to the Nehterlands."
Prometheus1992

I think you mean Namur.

"Victory in Europe day was celebrated a bit early, because the Germans had no way of coming back. Another interesting fact I found out was that they were getting oil from nowhere. They weren't trading with Finland, Japan, Italy, or any other country. Oh well, we still fried those panzers. After VE, all airplanes, troops, ships and workers were evacuated back to America, except for an occupational force for the cities i still had there. B17's found and sucessfully bombed the Haruna and the Yamashiro but didn't sink them. Alaska sank about 4 more destroyers and 1 transport. 4 more YamatoC's spotted. The Japanese seemed doomed from now on!troops goodjob"
Prometheus1992

An interesting playtest.
Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Serutan,

Thank you for the report.

"Soviet Union, 2.0, Regent.

1939 - Avoided fighting, set up 4 worker factory cities, a little artillery
production, a little infantry production, and much infrastructure production.

1940 - About mid - year, decided I had enough artillery to go after the
Turks. Took a while to get through those accursed fortresses, but Turkey
was wiped out, and their cities getting built up for mass production."
Serutan

No reaction from Axis-AI or Allied-AI. That is interesting.

"Late in the year, spies reported that Germany was much weaker than I
would have supposed (only 23 panzers), so I launched Bagatrion in Week 47 by taking Petsamo"
Serutan

Bad production-strategy from AI it seems.

"I had to deal
with panzer attacks (and temporarily lost Lublin and Vilnius), but this also
allowed me to blast them out of existence with arty and T-34s. After that,
it was a slowish but steady process to capture all their cities. I immediately
followed up with an invasion of Spain (interestingly, the Germans had captured
Gibraltar (ROP?), then the Brits beat me to it). Then, mainland Italy, Yugoslavia, and mainland Greece. Japan, meanwhile, had done nothing besides land a paratrooper on Sakhalin Island, whose stay was quite short."
Serutan

Its possible I will make special AI-versions again in the future.
As the situation is now the scenario works best when a human plays
Germany.

"Japan as a whole hadn't been doing too well; Beijing and two other Chinese
cities had been destroyed, but they hadn't captured anything else that I
could tell. By Week 29 of 1941, I had captured the Japanese home islands,
and all of their mainland posessions except Kalgan and Port Arthur, which the
Brits captured. The Brits also had captured all of Japan's Pacific holdings
except for Okinawa and the Kurile Islands."
Serutan

Japan has great problems in version 2.2 when its controlled by AI.

"Deciding that waiting would only put me in a worse position, I took a
couple of weeks to repair and relocate units, then attacked the Allies
(starting with Port Arthur). Since then, I have been doing a pincer, one
side in China, the other launched from Turkey. As of Week 42, I have
captured the Arabian Penensula except for Aden, wiped out Persia, and
China down through Shanghai. I have not done much in the mountains of
western China yet, but I am knocking at the door of British India."
Serutan

Maybe its time to plan an invasion of America.

"After I captured Suez, the French obligingly sent all their tanks just outside
the city so I could obliterate them. The British are starting to do the same.

The Americans have sent 3 small task forces against me; all have been
wiped out. Haven't seen much of the Royal Navy yet...

This may have already been fixed, but Stettin is still producing U-boat
Type IX, and Berlin is still producing SS infantry."
Serutan

OK I will look it over.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
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