WW2-Global

[Hubschrauber]

I like your srategy for Italy imgrumpy.

I'm playing as Italy too and its going good so far.
My original plan was to build up a force in North Africa and shoot east to take Suez, but without transports I cannot bring troops in. So I had the same idea as you, to take the Balkans. I havent initiated the assault yet but hearing your reports it seems like it will be pretty easy to take Yugoslavia.

Right now my main goal is to build up my armour, build an average Air Force and a few transports to move troops across the Med.

Future Plans:

First I want to secure the Balkans, than from there I will attack Egypt to capture Suez and Cut the Brits in half. From there I will take French North Africa as fast as possible and than launch a major assault on the Middle East to secure more oil and have a trade route from Africa to mainland Italy. Of course once the first Paratrooper is created I will bomb/bombard Corsica and take it to eliminate the French completely from the Med. I just hope the Brits or US dont send a Convoy or 2 in and take Sardinia or something dumb. It might be difficult to recapture it for awhile

 

[imgrumpy]

Italy 2.2, Chieftan

Week 41
A WW1 DD sinks the British Carrier Furious northwest of Tunis. Italian air force is destroying all roads leading to Egypt in an attempt to slow any buildup of forces there as well as strangle the cities of supplies. Germans take Antwerp

Week 42
Just off Cagliari a major naval engagement takes place: BB Cai Dulio sinks British Hvy CA, BB Giulio Cesare sinks British Hvy CA, CA Trento sinks British Lt CA, CA Trieste sinks British Lt CA, and a Lt CA sinks British Hvy CA already damaged by a lone German Ju-88. I've moved the Italian army into position to strike Thessaloniki next turn.

Week 43 Thessaloniki
A French fighter downs my only G-50 that was defending Milan. While my capital ships are in for repairs at Palermo, a French fleet swoops in and sinks 3 Lt CAs and many DDs. This is a severe blow to my Western Med Fleet. We are down to 6 DDs, 2 Hvy CAs, and 2 BBs. My East Med Fleet is still intact. I had to declare war on Greece since they demanded I leave their territory. They attack Tirana and are replused. German 2nd Lt Div swoops in from Romania and destroys one of the Greek Inf defending Thessaloniki. Thanks for the help Adolf. 2nd Alpine Div takes Thessaloniki with only 2 inf lost. British Carriers Argus, Eagle, and Hermes sunk off Alexandria by Italian subs. 2 Hvy CAs and a 1939 DD are also sunk. We only lose 11 subs in the operation but are now down to 26 left in our navy. Germany takes Amsterdam, but still not Warsaw!

Week 44
Other than the promotion of a few infantry to regular experience picking off weakened Greek units, not much to report.

Week 45
Finally the Germans eliminate the Poles! The Greeks run afoul of the Allied navy and are almost obliterated. 2 British BBs are operating out of Malta and 1 out of Alexandria, shelling my roads. I need to lure them out and sink them, then I will have mastery of the Med.

 

[Vericitas]

it is week 37 1942 AD. A British Lion Class Battleship attacked a minefield near Bremen.The BB and the Minefield still got one hitpoint.very strange...

i´ve noticed some of your changes and i must say that they´ve made the scenario better.especially i love the Croatia Infantry.it was a surprise for me when it suddenly appears in Zagreb.

Rocoteh, you are really the best!!!

 

[Rocoteh]

imgrumpy,

Thank you for the reports.

"Italy 2.2, Chieftan
Week 36, 1939
My general strategy will be to invade Yugoslavia and then Greece since these nations are relatively weak and protected from the other major powers by land. By the time I am finished with them, my Italian Pennisula cities will be developed and producing weapons of war. I will then either pick off some French cities while Germany invades from the north. I at least want Marseilles. My African possessions should be able to hold their own until I can reinforce them later on."
imgrumpy

Interesting historical goals.

"Week 37
We shot down a French Hvy Bomber over Turino, French navy shells Rome. Germany declares war on Denmark. My troops are in place for ware with Yugoslavia next turn. 10 submarines engage the British Battleship Royal Soveriegn just northeast of Alexandria and sink it, only 1 survives. 52 submarines and 5 WW1 destroyers take on the French fleet north of Rome, 3 BB and 4 Hvy CA. All 7 French capital ships are sunk leaving only 6 submarines and 1 WW1 destroyer to return back to Rome. To honor their bravery each vessel is renamed after the ship they sunk. The French fleet has been dealt a cripling blow in the Med. Itailan Hvy Cruiser Fiume sunk while attacking a squadron of French 1939 destroyers off Tunis. BB Cai Dulio sinks French Lt CA Gloire. Numerous fleet actions between Italian destroyers and French DD and Subs, not really worthy of mention. Overall I have lost 66 subs, 3 1939 DD, 10 WW1 DD, and 1 Hvy CA. This is a heavy blow but worth the cost of crippling the French navy in the Med."
imgrumpy

Yes I agree!
Without its navy France will now be in severe trouble.

"Week 38 Zagreb
Germany takes Copenhagen, eliminates Denmark. Definitely should add Denmark to Norway in 2.3. British Gibralter fleet shows up and shells Cagliari. Newly renamed submarine Royal Soveriegn sunk before it could return to Tobruk for repair. More minor fleet action against the French for the loss of 5 1939 DD, 1 WW1 DD, and 1 Lt CA. French Med navy now aproximately down to 1/2 its former strength in numbers. french Cavalry attack Tripoli, but are driven back with no Italian losses. Invasion of Yugoslavia begins! 1st and 2nd Celere Cavalry fall at Zagreb. Littorio Armored Division takes Zagreb."
imgrumpy

Yes i intend to merge Denmark with Norway in 2.3.

On Zagreb: Then you will soon get Croatian forces.

"Week 39 Dubrovnik, Belgrade
French navy has come on with a vengence, forcing me to retreat my navy to port for repairs. I've lost 3 subs, 2 1939 DD, and 5 WW1 DD. Since the start of the war my navy has gone from 217 to 129 ships, though all but 1 Hvy CA were expendable. 3rd Celere Cavalry falls at Belgrade, 1st Alpine Div takes Belgrade. 3rd Alpine takes Dubrovnik, Yugoslavia eliminated. The Italian army is still mostly intact, only losing 3 cavalry and 1 infantry. Now onto Greece. Germany has taken Rotterdam, but still hasn't finished off Warsaw."
imgrumpy

Sometimes Germany-AI plays very weak against France.
Hopefully not this time.

"Week 40
French attempt to bomb Palermo but are shot from the sky. My Italian fleet that supported the Yugoslavian campaign is rounding the southern point of Greece and is preparing to take up position for shelling their cities in the next couple of turns. Amazingly I only lose 1 unit this turn; a WW1 DD. Still waiting for Germany to take Warsaw."
imgrumpy

It seems like Germany not will be able to repeat the historical
timeline this time.

"Week 41
A WW1 DD sinks the British Carrier Furious northwest of Tunis. Italian air force is destroying all roads leading to Egypt in an attempt to slow any buildup of forces there as well as strangle the cities of supplies."
imgrumpy

A good move!

"Week 42
Just off Cagliari a major naval engagement takes place: BB Cai Dulio sinks British Hvy CA, BB Giulio Cesare sinks British Hvy CA, CA Trento sinks British Lt CA, CA Trieste sinks British Lt CA, and a Lt CA sinks British Hvy CA already damaged by a lone German Ju-88. I've moved the Italian army into position to strike Thessaloniki next turn."
imgrumpy

Heavy losses for The Royal Navy.

"Week 43 Thessaloniki
A French fighter downs my only G-50 that was defending Milan. While my capital ships are in for repairs at Palermo, a French fleet swoops in and sinks 3 Lt CAs and many DDs. This is a severe blow to my Western Med Fleet. We are down to 6 DDs, 2 Hvy CAs, and 2 BBs. My East Med Fleet is still intact. I had to declare war on Greece since they demanded I leave their territory. They attack Tirana and are replused. German 2nd Lt Div swoops in from Romania and destroys one of the Greek Inf defending Thessaloniki. Thanks for the help Adolf. 2nd Alpine Div takes Thessaloniki with only 2 inf lost. British Carriers Argus, Eagle, and Hermes sunk off Alexandria by Italian subs. 2 Hvy CAs and a 1939 DD are also sunk. We only lose 11 subs in the operation but are now down to 26 left in our navy. Germany takes Amsterdam, but still not Warsaw!"
imgrumpy

Not very smart play from Germany-AI this time.

"Week 45
Finally the Germans eliminate the Poles! The Greeks run afoul of the Allied navy and are almost obliterated. 2 British BBs are operating out of Malta and 1 out of Alexandria, shelling my roads. I need to lure them out and sink them, then I will have mastery of the Med."
imgrumpy

Soon you will be able to turn West.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Vericitas,

"it is week 37 1942 AD. A British Lion Class Battleship attacked a minefield near Bremen.The BB and the Minefield still got one hitpoint.very strange..."
Vericitas

Agree!

"i´ve noticed some of your changes and i must say that they´ve made the scenario better.especially i love the Croatia Infantry.it was a surprise for me when it suddenly appears in Zagreb."
Vericitas

Yes I think version 2.2 is clear improvement.

"Rocoteh, you are really the best!!!"
Vericitas

Thank you!

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Future Plans:

First I want to secure the Balkans, than from there I will attack Egypt to capture Suez and Cut the Brits in half. From there I will take French North Africa as fast as possible and than launch a major assault on the Middle East to secure more oil and have a trade route from Africa to mainland Italy. Of course once the first Paratrooper is created I will bomb/bombard Corsica and take it to eliminate the French completely from the Med. I just hope the Brits or US dont send a Convoy or 2 in and take Sardinia or something dumb. It might be difficult to recapture it for awhile

Hubschrauber,

Sounds like a very good plan.

If you also will be able to capture Gibraltar, you will give Britain problems!

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Week 26:
The battle of the Atlantic:
BB Arminius sunk a British KGV south of Ireland. U 194 sank a US TR off Boston. BB Beowulf became elite by sinking a US BB C2 off Agadir. Another is sunk by Hagen von Tronje.
The fight in Africa:
Bardei is taken and the French forces in the area beaten.
Much more didn´t happen except 3 new BB are ready: Hohenfriedberg, Skagerrak, Tannenberg.

Adler

Adler,

I think you soon will be able to launch the invasion of America.
It seems like you have wiped out the Allied fleets.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

pazza,

"Exactly how long does the loading process take place? I'm really interested in playing this because most WWII scenarios i've played don't have japan, china, u.s., canada, etc. and it really leaves out the fun of naval battles and large scale combat. anyway my computer is 1.8 ghz and 512 mb ram."
pazza

I can not say exactly how much time the loading process will take, but I
guess 15-20 minutes with 1.8 ghz and 512 mb ram.

"btw, it says that there are saved games in the original posts but there aren't. is there anyway you could provide a saved game for the u.s. on regent difficulty?"
pazza

OK, I will upload US, Regent difficulty here at this post
within some minutes.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/US1939.zip


Rocoteh

 

[Prometheus1992]

weeks 39 to about 45 : sailed American Navy to the shores of Japan, where i sank a lot of destroyers but also lost a lot no battleships lost in the Pacific Theatre, nor hc or cv, one Cruiser (Reno), 3 SBD's, 5 fighters, and about 20 destroyers lost a sea. Guam invaded by the japs, lost. Repelled about 50 naval attacks by the Japanese against the city of Manila. Got my Gold Per Turn to +590. Sent a lot of my funds to France so they could fight Germany, which they probably used to construct troops in the Indo-china area (smart!) .

Also, i went to Civ Editor and let the Battleship be constructable for 750 shields. Gave Americans the ability to build the King Geroge V class because the British navy lended off some of their ships (one of these classes included) to the Americans in the Pacific Theatre. Added new cities: Charleston, Cleveland. Placed coal around Pittsburgh, which gave me a VERY unfair production advantage (200 shield/t )

 

[Hubschrauber]

About loading times:

My comp has 512mb and operates at 1.8Ghz too and it takes me 5-8 mins to load ww2-global 2.2.

You should also do a Disk Defragment before loading the scenario, if it hasn't been done in a while. And make sure you have as much memory as possible: use a program (such as System Mechanic 6) to free up as much memory and make your pc faster.

If this is done regularly it will reduce loading times by alot.

 

[imgrumpy]

Italy 2.2, Chieftan

Week 46
Athens I've lost another fighter in air defense of Milan. Trento Mot Inf Div takes Athens. A bomber is shot down by British BB Revenge. For the loss of 20 subs, I sink the Revenge. I only have 6 subs left, but it was well worth it. It is now time to gather my forces to take Marseilles.

Week 47
I sign a peace treaty with Greece since I have no transport to invade Crete. BB Cai Duilio sinks British BB Revolution north of Malta. 2 down, 1 to go. My Bredas bomb Alexandria to force out the last British BB in the Med. Germany still hasn't taken Brussels, so I have time to deal with the British navy before taking Marseilles. I just noticed why germany hasn't bothered with France...they've taken Glasgow! That's the first time I've ever seen that. I will have to monitor the situation more carefully.

Week 48
A combined air and sub assault sinks a British Hvy Cruiser northwest of Alexandria. My biggest complaint about playing Italy is that the oil in the Sudan is not usable by the mainland Italian cities. Maybe a trade wonder in Benghazi needs to be implemented.

Week 49
Germans take the rest of Belguim, meaning that I have to be ready to take southern France soon. That lone British BB was scared out of the Med through the Suez canal by my approaching fleet. I must send my fleet to Marseilles, so hopefully that BB will not slink back and cause trouble. I'll leave a force of lt cruisers and destroyers to deal with him.

Week 50
Not much to report.

Week 51
The American navy has shown up, bombing Palermo from a carrier. Good thing my fleet is close at hand. The Germans have managed to hold onto Glasgow still. I've made deals with Russia and Germany to acquire oil, rubber, and Germany resources.

 

[Prometheus1992]

1940 (up to week 46): US Navy launched a new Battlecruiser - Alaska. Research of the B-25 Mitchell bomber has been complete and put into mass production. Cities at rapid growth (NY at 73). IJN has been 90% neutralized. At least 6 Battleships sunk, 2 Carriers, a Yamato Class, 10 Heavy Cruisers, about 5 Light Cruisers and at least 30 destroyers all sunk by either the USS Alaska or the B-25 Bombing raids (most came from the bombers) also many troop transports were sunk. Germany is butchering the Soviet Union at the time with Panzer IIe's. Britain has already built about 5 KGV class battleships. Bombing of the Reich is a good thing for helping me in what is to follow. E-Day (my D-day) --- troops land on the shores of France at Brest. Brest has fallen into Allied occupation. Tried to take over Paris, but was so heavily beaten that I had to fight a defensive war if i was to keep my important prize-of-a-port. American tanks are way too weak to do anything to the Germans! I am currently researching Land 1941 in hopes of getting the Lee/Grant tank in order to repel further German operations. Battleships Colorado, Idaho, and numerous other destroyers swept the coast of northern France for any other German opposition. 3 bombing squads of B-25's have been launched to Brest and arrived. Did jack &^$% to the city of Paris except level a population size. About 25 American infantry and at least 10 tank divisions are waiting around Boston-New York area waiting for pickup by transports, which take forvever to arrive on the coast. Stopped production of the next carrier USS Independence in New York harbor in exchange for new transports. New Battlecruiser built - Guam. I am still a long way from the Iowa-class battleship. America has been a powerhouse for production, but with no where to put the troops, all coastal cities are building transports, while most of the inner cities are on Wealth due to a bordeom factor because i already have too many troops. Texas which was sunk before was ressurected as a C2 Battleship bearing the same name. Manila has been lost due to a mass Japanese invasion. Davao still stands strong and has been where all of my airstrikes have been launched from -- impossible to lose. Tried to send reinforcements to Davao to launch an invasion and rettaking of Manila, but was subsequently sunk when I didn't send transport support . 2 Japanese battleships remain -- the Haruna and the Yamashiro, which i am currently devoted to sinking. As for futher reports...well..that just depends on how hard my forces fight

 

[imgrumpy]

Italy 2.2, Chieftan

Week 52
American Hvy CAs bomb Cagliari. First new Italian Mtn Inf produced at Torino. Hvy CA Pola sinks American carrier Ranger. 3 more Hvy CAs sunk by my destroyers. The Americans will think twice before entering my Med.

Week 1, 1940
First Croatia Infantry produced in Zagreb. My fleet sinks 4 more American Hvy CAs and some French DDs. We have total domination of the Med Sea.

Week 2
We shelled and bombed Corsica just in case any French navy or air force were hidden there.

Week 3
Switzerland's borders have expanded over time to include some of my Alpine mountain fortresses. Well, they have demanded that I remove them or declare war, so war it is. Germany will waste a lot of energy on them, giving me ample time to take southern France.

Week 4
The seige of Marseilles has begun. British have recaptured Glasgow. Germans have taken Verdun.

 

[Rocoteh]

About loading times:

My comp has 512mb and operates at 1.8Ghz too and it takes me 5-8 mins to load ww2-global 2.2.

Hubschrauber,

That is faster than I thought.

Thank you for the info!

Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

Week 27:
I conquered Reinovo, Mongalla and Karatchi and made an aerial landing near Srinagar, which was bombed.

PC turn:
2 US TR, a convoy of three US BB C2 and a KGV class BB appear.

Adler

 

[Adler17]

Week 28:
Kampala is mine. However there I lost 4 elite Pz III G. And 2 further by the conquest of Jaipur.
However both enemy US TR are sunk. 3 Uboats were lost until U 333 sank the KGV class BB.
In Russia Kobyek and Olenek were taken with no losses.
New BBs ready: Fehrbellin, Belle- Alliance.

PC turn:
The US convoy sinky one of my Uboats. Also a Uboat guarding the entrance of the Med is sunk by a US sub. Also another US BB is spotted.
Time to retaliate.

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

Prometheus1992,

Thank you for the report.

"1940 (up to week 46): US Navy launched a new Battlecruiser - Alaska. Research of the B-25 Mitchell bomber has been complete and put into mass production. Cities at rapid growth (NY at 73). IJN has been 90% neutralized. At least 6 Battleships sunk, 2 Carriers, a Yamato Class, 10 Heavy Cruisers, about 5 Light Cruisers and at least 30 destroyers all sunk by either the USS Alaska or the B-25 Bombing raids (most came from the bombers)"
Prometheus1992

Very good results!

"Germany is butchering the Soviet Union at the time with Panzer IIe's. Britain has already built about 5 KGV class battleships. Bombing of the Reich is a good thing for helping me in what is to follow. E-Day (my D-day) --- troops land on the shores of France at Brest. Brest has fallen into Allied occupation. Tried to take over Paris, but was so heavily beaten that I had to fight a defensive war if i was to keep my important prize-of-a-port. American tanks are way too weak to do anything to the Germans!"
Prometheus1992

An early invasion. It will be interesting to follow how it turns out.

"I am currently researching Land 1941 in hopes of getting the Lee/Grant tank in order to repel further German operations."
Prometheus1992

It should make a difference.

"Stopped production of the next carrier USS Independence in New York harbor in exchange for new transports. New Battlecruiser built - Guam. I am still a long way from the Iowa-class battleship. America has been a powerhouse for production, but with no where to put the troops, all coastal cities are building transports, while most of the inner cities are on Wealth due to a bordeom factor because i already have too many troops."
Prometheus1992

That is interesting.

"Texas which was sunk before was ressurected as a C2 Battleship bearing the same name. Manila has been lost due to a mass Japanese invasion. Davao still stands strong and has been where all of my airstrikes have been launched from -- impossible to lose. Tried to send reinforcements to Davao to launch an invasion and rettaking of Manila, but was subsequently sunk when I didn't send transport support . 2 Japanese battleships remain -- the Haruna and the Yamashiro, which i am currently devoted to sinking. As for futher reports...well..that just depends on how hard my forces fight"
Prometheus1992


It seems like Japan still avoid operations against Australia, despite
the new victory loacations there.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

imgrumpy,

Thank you for the reports.

"Week 46
Athens I've lost another fighter in air defense of Milan. Trento Mot Inf Div takes Athens. A bomber is shot down by British BB Revenge. For the loss of 20 subs, I sink the Revenge. I only have 6 subs left, but it was well worth it. It is now time to gather my forces to take Marseilles."
imgrumpy

Heavy losses, but one battleship less!

"Week 47
I sign a peace treaty with Greece since I have no transport to invade Crete. BB Cai Duilio sinks British BB Revolution north of Malta. 2 down, 1 to go. My Bredas bomb Alexandria to force out the last British BB in the Med. Germany still hasn't taken Brussels, so I have time to deal with the British navy before taking Marseilles. I just noticed why germany hasn't bothered with France...they've taken Glasgow! That's the first time I've ever seen that. I will have to monitor the situation more carefully."
imgrumpy

A very strange move from Germany-AI.

"Week 48
A combined air and sub assault sinks a British Hvy Cruiser northwest of Alexandria. My biggest complaint about playing Italy is that the oil in the Sudan is not usable by the mainland Italian cities. Maybe a trade wonder in Benghazi needs to be implemented."
imgrumpy

OK I will consider that.

"Week 49
Germans take the rest of Belguim, meaning that I have to be ready to take southern France soon. That lone British BB was scared out of the Med through the Suez canal by my approaching fleet. I must send my fleet to Marseilles, so hopefully that BB will not slink back and cause trouble. I'll leave a force of lt cruisers and destroyers to deal with him."
imgrumpy

Very slow German progress in the West.

"The American navy has shown up, bombing Palermo from a carrier. Good thing my fleet is close at hand. The Germans have managed to hold onto Glasgow still. I've made deals with Russia and Germany to acquire oil, rubber, and Germany resources."
imgrumpy

I doubt Germany will be able to hold Glasgow for a long time.

"Week 52
American Hvy CAs bomb Cagliari. First new Italian Mtn Inf produced at Torino. Hvy CA Pola sinks American carrier Ranger. 3 more Hvy CAs sunk by my destroyers. The Americans will think twice before entering my Med.

Week 1, 1940
First Croatia Infantry produced in Zagreb. My fleet sinks 4 more American Hvy CAs and some French DDs. We have total domination of the Med Sea."
imgrumpy

Very high naval losses for US. 1 Carrier and 7 CA:s in 2 turns.

"Week 3
Switzerland's borders have expanded over time to include some of my Alpine mountain fortresses. Well, they have demanded that I remove them or declare war, so war it is. Germany will waste a lot of energy on them, giving me ample time to take southern France.

Week 4
The seige of Marseilles has begun. British have recaptured Glasgow. Germans have taken Verdun."
imgrumpy

Thus the invasion of Glasgow was a rather poinless raid from AI.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

Adler,

Thank you for the reports.

"Week 27:
I conquered Reinovo, Mongalla and Karatchi and made an aerial landing near Srinagar, which was bombed.

PC turn:
2 US TR, a convoy of three US BB C2 and a KGV class BB appear."
Adler

AI escorts with to few units as usual.

"Week 28:
Kampala is mine. However there I lost 4 elite Pz III G. And 2 further by the conquest of Jaipur.
However both enemy US TR are sunk. 3 Uboats were lost until U 333 sank the KGV class BB.
In Russia Kobyek and Olenek were taken with no losses.
New BBs ready: Fehrbellin, Belle- Alliance."
Adler

It seems like Britain has allocated rather strong forces to defend
the positions in Africa.

"PC turn:
The US convoy sinky one of my Uboats. Also a Uboat guarding the entrance of the Med is sunk by a US sub. Also another US BB is spotted.
Time to retaliate."
Adler


Yes!

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

Week 29:
3 US subs tried to come through the Pillars Of Hercules. All are sunk now. But just as I remarked DD T 16 spotted 3 US subs out of Lissabon. The Stukas of CV Leo Leonhardy finished the job.
Off America I sank all 4 BB and a TR for the price of 13 Uboats. A good exchange.
I declared war on the Soviets again because the damned Italians made peace with them. It is a pity that I can´t declare war on them. So I could take Chulkovo and conquered this enclave.
In Africa Port Sudan is conquered by an amphibious landing.
New BB ready: Düppel, Coronel.
In India I attacked and captured Delhi, Rawalpindi and Lahore. I also attacked with my Luftwaffe British forces en route to Japan hold Tibet.

PC turn:
The British troops invading Tibet crossed the border to retake Rawalpindi. Too late.

Adler