WW2-Global

[Snorken]

Here are some city names i think should be corrected or changed...

Note: Some of my suggestions may not be correct either, since they're from a Swedish atlas...
Someone may already have told you about some of them too...

Here's what i think it should be called (but that's just me and i could be wrong...):
Sweden
Göteborg, not Goteborg (or Gothenburg if you don't change Copenhagen)
Västervik, not Vastervik
Luleå, not Lulea
Norway/Denmark/Iceland
Ålesund, not Alesund
Kobenhavn, not Copenhagen (the o in Kobenhavn should be a Danish ö)
Reykjavik, not Reykiavik
Great Britian/Commonwealth
You should change Birmingham to Liverpool and Liverpool to Edinburgh or Glasgow
Fort Chimo, not Chimo
Hyderabad, not Hyperabad
Kuala Lumpur, not Kuala Lumpuf
Eucla, not Euclo
France
Casablanca, not Cassablanca
Canarky, not Kanarky
Italy
Venice, not Vinice
I've never heard of Lecce, so i think you should change it to Taranto
Addis Abeba, not Addis Ababa
Russian cities
Grozny, not Groznyy
Tashkent, not Tasjkent
Krasnoyarsk, not Krasnoyarks
China
Chengdu, not Chengtu
Thailand
I've never heard of Singora, so i think you should change it to Phuket
Japan
Okinawa, not Okinowa
USA
Bismarck, not Bismark
Havanna, not Havana
Venezuela
Bogotá, not Bogota
Brazil
Belém, not Belem
Salvador, not Sao Salvador
São Paulo, not Sao Paulo
Asunción, not Asuncion
Tefe, not Teffe
Cuiaba, not Cuyaba
Argentina
Buenos Aires, not Buenos Aries
Rosario, not Rosaria (if you change this you could also remove the dot in Mexican Rosaria)
Bahía Blanca, not Bahia Blanca
Rio Gallegos, not Gallegos
Chile
Concepción, not Conseption

Tampere is not a coastal city, you should move it one tile to the NE...
I think you should move Västervik one tile to the NE and rename it Linköping (the SAAB aircraft factory is in Linköping) or move it one tile to the SE and rename it Karlskrona (the most important Swedish naval base)

I didn't know that Jaime I was raised... You should keep it then...

 

[Bob1475]

I tend to agree with Sasebo's analysis of the AI with a few exceptions and maybe some explanations -

Japan - They do seem to hold their own in China and usually do well until the US weakens their base and then the British give them trouble. I don't know why but the Japanese and the Russians seem to avoid each other even when at war. I have seen the Russians attack China but never Japan's holding in the North.

I think the reason that the AI does not do well against the US is fairly simple. Even the Japanese knew they could not win a war with the US on normal terms. Their extraordinary attack on Pearl Harbor was intended at best to buy time. Without the attack on Pearl Harbor (which you have talked about adding) the US fleet overcome the Japanese and the US has more industrial power to replace lost units. Furthermore I think it is asking a lot for the AI to extend so much resources to merely take a few islands in the Pacific. Going for land in Asia makes more sense. In other words Japan was doomed from the beginning and with no real allies in the war agains the US it must fall.

I should also point out that there is no agreed upon strategy of the US supporting the UK in Europe first and the Pacific second. Essentially in this scenario the US takes care of its own interests and puts almost all power in the Pacific. Who knows how long Japan could have held out in the real war if this was the case?

Possible solutions for the scenario? Prebase units for hits on Phillipines and Pearl Harbor, reduce power of US marines. Increase production capability of home islands (more coal?).

Germany - Well powered and displays their early advantage. They eventually take Poland and France but cannot deal with the Russians. They usually do not make a landing on England but then again it did not happen in the real War. I think you could tone down the uboats a little as they do tend to take over the Atlantic.

Italy - I think they do much better than in the real war. Their fleet tends to hold its own in the Med but they do lose in Africa as the British get better units. Not much to change here.

USA - My only suggestion is to tone down the marines a bit. The Americans always take Japan but after that I am not sure. They seem to like the Med islands for some reason.

China - No comment.



France - Does fairly well and close to historical levels. They hold out longer only because they can't surrender. Seem to like their armor a lot, not very active with air power.

UK - As has been said they do OK. But without US reinforcements they can't handle the continent. Sounds realistic.

USSR - I have written much about this. They have the best chance of any AI because they have the ability to sue for peace. They usually use this to their advantage by gobbling up neutrals. Need to get them to stick to armor.

 

[krazydude]

to the scenario autors:

you have portugal at democracy, however portugal was under fascism from 30's until 1974, date of the revolution, in which we became a democracy.

please change that in newer versions

great work on this scenario, it's just HUGE! one of the best (if not the best) i have ever seen

 

[krazydude]

one more thing, the portuguse city in south mozambique is called "Lourenço Marques" and not "Laurenco Marces"

 

[krazydude]

PSYCHO: Lecce does exist, it even has a football team in serie a, or at least it had

 

[Rubberjello]

Week 46
Consolidate gains, clean up French Garrisons laying around in our new territories. Sink 3 British Light Cruisers and 3 Submarines. (Aren't the Germans sinking any British ships? Sheesh!) Still bombarding Cairo with little effect.

IBT More British ships show up in the Med. There seems to be no end in sight.

Week 47
Bombarded Barcelona and captured it easily, with lots of promotions for my few remaining armored units. Set up an infantry screen to seal off the Iberian penninsula from my erstwhile allies, the Germans. Productive cities there would be core cities for the future world power of Italy!
The never-ending parade of British ship continues. Isn't Germany supposed to be taking care of many of these? Sheesh! We sink 15 Destroyers, 12 Subs and 3 Light Cruisers, with a loss of 4 Subs and 6 Destroyers.
Cairo is hanging tough, with many infantry units inside. Little is done by the entire Italian Air Force bombarding it (such as it is!), because the British just moved in 4 Bombers which are absorbing our bombardment attacks.

Week 48.
The British ship parade is slowing down some. Only 5 Destroyers and 4 Subs to kill this turn (lost 3 Destroyers). Killed 2 French Tanks which again attacked El-Alamein and killed 2 of my Infantry. I need to start building some MG units for better protection. Both Tanks were killed by some Breda DB, which are really good planes so far! I'm still going to have to get lucky to capture Cairo. Highest attack strength of "12" really stinks against some of these British units.

Week 49
Germany gets rid of the last of the Maginot Line for me with incessant air strikes. France is killing a *lot* of German units in its last continental city of Brest. It should fall soon, but it is taking at least 10-15 German units with it. Only a single invasion force of Brits invade the Med this turn (CL, 2 Dest, and Transport). They are killed with no losses off of Sicily. In the battle for Madrid (as always --- pounded first by Artillery), the first of (hopefully) many Military Great Leaders appear! It appears to be Trajan, who seems to want to hearken back to the glory days of Ancient Rome! (The unit was the famed "Emanuele Filiberto Testa Di Ferro" M11/39 Tank brigade. Madrid is captured with no losses---and a few promotions. If only the Brits were as easy to kill...
Cairo finally falls after an intense bombing and bombardment campaign. Still lost 2 Inf. and 2 Tanks to it though. Rommel would have been proud, as the famed elite Italian Motorized Infantry Division "Ariete" deliverd the final stroke and rolled into the streets of Cairo.

Week 50.
The Germans take Brest! France is kicked out of Europe. On the other hand, their colonies are getting pretty good at generating tanks. (These French tanks seem a tad too powerful, if you ask me!) Another two come along and kill two more of my infantry near Cairo. The S35 has 5 health, and is 19.13.2 This is starting to really suck. On the plus side, the rest of the Allies finally declared war on the Soviets. That might take the heat off me for a little while. On the double plus side, for the first time in the entire game, no English ships entered the Med!
Time to give those poor, brave Italian sailors a week of shore leave. Most of the Spanish forces seemed to have hid out in Valencia. I had to kill 2MG units and 7 Infantry to capture this town. Spain is down to two cities. Easily captured Lisbon from some wounded Spanish Infantry (evidently, they had just captured it from the Portuguese)

Week 51
The Soviets capture Damascus. Another example of how dangerous they can be with ROPs with all the Neutral nations. 3 More French tanks show up near Tripoli. We have to finish our Iberian campaign as soon as possible to reinforce Africa.
Sank a French Cruiser in the harbor of Algiers through Bombardment. Kill two of the threatening French tanks with Bombers. Two of the British Empire's symbols of naval dominance fall this turn, as both Gibralter and Suez Canal are captured! Both were mercilessly bombarded from land, sea, and air, so casualties were light (1 Infantry). The best thing is that the famed Ariete division generated a great general - Hadrian, during the battle for Suez.

Week 52
It seems the entire RAF bomber force is pounding Djibouit, the captured French city in East Africa? Also, some interesting battles going on between the Soviets and the British near Jerusalem. Some big convoys with capital ships are moving into the Med this turn, and yet more French tanks show up in near Tripoli (lost another infantry there.) I rush my units from the war in Spain via rail and transport ship chaining through Sicily to reach Tripoli barely in time to kill off 4 French S35 tanks. Sink 1 British convoy (CL, 2 DD, and Transport), but retreat my main naval force away from the following two convoys that have 5 capitol ships guarding them.
Intelligence Agency is finished, so we plant some spies, and steal Sea 1940, and Light Land 1940 from our good friends, the Germans. (They shouldn't mind!) Finally get my Ivory hooked up in East Africa.
Capture La Coruna with no losses and the Spanish are now gone. The first milestone towards the dream of restoring the Roman empire is complete!


Week 1, 1940
The Russians take Jerusalem and raze it. They must be kept out of Africa! 2 of their feared MRDs appear next to Suez. I'll blockade them and see what happens. No less than 7 British Battleships are now escorting convoys through the Wester Mediteranean. The French are attacking Tripoli with an average of 2 Tanks a turn. They still have quite a few ships cruising the Atlantic off of Spain also.
The new year dawns with even more challenges to the poor Italians! This is their list of forces at the beginnning of the year:
39 Workers
9 Cavalry (6.2.2)
5 Motorized Inf. (14.7.2)
12 M.11/39 (12.6.2)
21 Artillery (0.18.1.1)
3 Transports(1.2.5)
68 Submarines(18.7.4) Most are elite
73 Destroyers(11.9.8) Most are elite
4 Battleships (60.16.53.5 all are elite
12 Light Cruisers (20.16.6) all are elite!
6 Heavy Cruisers (26.14.21.5) most are elite
8 CR-52 Fighters(4.4.1)
8 SM-79 Bombers (0.8.2.1)
63 Infantry (5.8.1)
11 M 11/39 Tanks (12.6.2)
3 Breda Dive Bombers (0.18.2.1)
1 Fiat Bomber (0.16.2.1)
1 Fiat G50 Figher/Bomber (5.4.5.1)
7 Flak (1.3.1.(4aa))
34 Garrisons (1.10.0)
13 Fortress Infantry (0.15.0)
2 Armies (not filled yet)

Kill off the usual French tanks with no losses. Bombard some of the British convoys, then risk some capital ship fights.
BB Andrea Doria sinks wounded BB Rodney and barely wins with 1 health left.
BB Conte Di Cavour sinks wounded BC Renown
CA Pola sinks the Cruiser Sussex
DD Casseopia sinks Transport
The second group contains the Elite BBs Resolution and Royal Sovereign (12 health each!) I sacrifice 8 Subs to knock them down to the Red zone and then attack:
BB Cai Dulio sinks the Resolution.
CA Fuiro sinks the Royal Sovereign. (+ 2 Destroyers finish off the transport and remaining destroyer)
(A multi-Marine attack on Sardinia or Sicily would be nasty!)
Plant a spy with the Russians...WHAT THE??? They have 90 HMG units? Did their starting lineup get changed that dramatically from 1.1 to 1.3? Plant a spy with the U.S. also. They are about where they should be in terms of forces. (14 BBs left)


Week 2, 1940
Berbera (British - East Africa) is a major pain in the butt. It is impossible to assualt without a huge amount of reinforecements (it's on a mountain). The British are pouring in a major effort there. They seem to be rush buying an Infantry every turn, and there are at least 15-20 bombers nailing those weak Italian cities there, sometimes destroying those conscript infantries outright.
The whole area could collapse soon unless I break through from the North (Egypt) with the main armies.
A French tank killed one of my elite Motorized Brigades that was leading an attack on Tunis. Capture Luxor after bombardment from Land and Air. Mut (Upper Egypt) is also captured, and Germanicus (these leaders sure do like to have ancient names, eh?) proves himself while leading the storied "Trieste" mortorized division.

Week 3, 1940
Lost a couple more units in East Africa. The good news is that the massive buildup of the RAF is gone...finally rebased to another threat (Russians?)
Started a long sequence of bombardments on Malta. Some Marines are being built, but they won't be ready for a while yet. On the long march down the Nile, Dongola is liberated next - with no losses after a bombardment. When the 1'st Armored Regiment attacks Tunis and wins against a much-bombarded French Infantry, Claudius rises to the top and is proclaimed the latest hero of the new Roman Empire.
My luck with Military Great Leaders has created a small (but pleasant) dilemma. My pitiful industrial base can't build enough M11's to fill these armies, and I don't want to put any Elite (but not '*') units in them. So some are going to have to wait to be filled.

 

[P-51D]

I am going to download this right away.

 

[allin1joe]

My American play test was going very well. I took Brest and Paris and was landing more Marines each week to continue my push. I decided to restart as Japan to see what it's like starting in the thick of things. I kept turn by turn kills and losses this time too:

Week 36, 1939

Trade Italy for oil, Germany for Rubber and Russia for Aluminum. Research is at minimum for now.

In the Pacific, we attacked the American fleet in the Phillipines. We destroyed 10 subs and 6 destroyers while losing 6 destroyers.

On the ground, 9 Chinese Infantry and 12 Communist China infantry were killed with only 4 infantry lost.

Counter-offensive
America & Britian destory 8 destoryers, 1 Heavy Cruiser and a transport at the cost of 3 American destroyers and 2 British Heavy Cruisers.

Misc
Spain declares war on Germany

Week 37, 1939

Destroyed

British -- 1 HC, 7 Subs
French -- 4 Destroyers, Light Cruiser Lamante-Piquet
Americans -- 4 Destroyers
Chinese -- 5 Infantry
Communist Chinese -- 2 Infantry

Lost
1 Sub, 3 Destroyer, 4 Infantry, Light Cruiser Sendai

Counter-Offensive
Destroyed

British -- 1 Destroyer
Lost
4 Destroyers

Got pulled away so I do not know if there was anything else.

Misc
Greeks declare on Italians
Norway/Denmark declares on Germans, pulled into war
Sweden attacked Finland pulling us into war
Soviet Russia declared on Sweden
Britian declared on Turkey

Week 38, 1939

Destroyed

Chinese -- 10 Infantry, Took Foochow.
Communist China -- 3 Infantry
British -- 1 Destroyer
American -- Augusta, 1 Sub
Netherlands -- 4 Destroyers

Lost -- 3 Infantry, 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer

Counter Attack
Destroyed

Netherlands -- 2 Light Cruiser, 1 Sub
Americans -- 1 Destroyer

Lost -- 5 Destroyers

China brings a stack of 40 infantry outside of Foochow.

Misc
Yugoslavia declared on the Italians

Week 39, 1939

Destroyed

Chinese -- 11 Infantry (wounded another 13 more with air-raids)
Communist China -- 2 Infantry
France -- 1 Light Cruiser (Suffren)
Netherlands -- 1 Light Cruiser (Maya)
America -- Wake captured.

Lost
2 destroyers, 1 Infantry

Counter Attack

Destroyed
Netherlands -- 2 Subs

Lost
2 Destroyers

Great Britian declared on the Soviets. Sounds like they ran into a sub by the Kurile Islands.

ugh, what I was afraid of. Germany declared on the Soviets. Guess that deal for Aluminum wasn't that smart after all.

Germans destroy the Poles.

Stack of Chinese infantry move away from Foochow.

Week 40, 1939

Destroyed

Chinese -- 7 Infantry
America -- 1 Light Cruiser, 1 Submarine
Netherlands -- 2 Submarines

Lost
8 Infantry(one was elite dang RNG!!), 4 Destroyers

Counter Attack

Destroyed

Netherlands -- 4 Subs

Lost -- 1 Sub

Spain declared on the Italians
American fleet on it's way. Cant see them, but Wake and Marshalls come under bombing attack. Destroyers show up by the Kurile Islands.

Chinese stack starts it's retreat

Week 41, 1939
Spotted the American Carriers. Both are escorted by 3 destroyers each. I have a fleet of 20 Subs moving to intercept so this should be interesting. They are 3 spaces north of Wake.

Destroyed
Netherlands -- 3 subs
Chinese -- 21 Infantry
Communist China -- 4 Infantry
British -- 4 Destroyers
French -- 2 Subs
Russia -- 1 Sub

Loss
2 Infantry, 3 Destroyers

 

[Sasebo]

rubberjello: There is an oil resource SW of Tripoli, did you cut that off yet? It sound like the French are rush-buying those Somuas on you. cut off their resources with bombing if you can and it can help a great deal.

allin1joe: I'm still playing my Japan game at the moment, I will be following yours since you seem to have gone right into battle, I have been much more deliberate. You should see massive waves of US ships approaching Japan any time now, enjoy! It's going to be MESSY! As long as it was Germany that declared you may be safe from the Soviets, but not 100% sure how that works. Sometimes they drag you in with MPP, and sometimes they don't. I think it is when the first Soviet unit initiates an attack on Germany that you will get sucked in. If you do I am going to be interested to see how much they throw at you in Manchuria, I've been scared to death of them RRing in a horde of armor.

Japan,Diety, week 13,1940: I take Hanoi, Brest falls to Germans. I discover that MGL do not build units. No easy Yamato for me then. So I build an army for my two Elite SNLF.
Week 14- Allies make peace with USSR. Lyon to Germans. I notice USA has taken 6 Chilean cities! They will kill them by razing the final one a few turns later. Week 15 France will re-declare on Soviets, and pull the allies in again.
Week 17- I have a small task force trying to shore bombard Port Moresby, since bombers based there have been ripping my city of Sarmi and the roads to it to shreds. A King George V class shows up; my fortified regular BB survives with 4 hp. Always fortify your ships if able! That ship was a monster!
Marseilles is razed.
Week 18- We take Hong Kong with SNLF/bombard, and Wuhan with armor & my only Paratrooper. Bordeaux falls to Germany. Mut is taken and Luxor? is razed by Soviets; the reds are going to sweep all of Africa I fear. It's going to be a LONG war. On the plus side, My first Yamato Class is due next turn, those allied BBs better watch out is all I have to say!

 

[Adler17]

Week 14:
Chelyabinsk, without any troops due to my Stukas, falls without resistance. Aktavskoe is taken by one of my armies. In the fights with Soviet troops I lose a veteran Pz IIIe tank, but gains a leader! Nowosibirsk bombed. 3 defending HMG destroyed by Luftwaffe planes. Kashmir taken after heavy fighting.
In the Caribean the first battle between Uboats and US DD. U 59 becomes regular after sinking USS Preston, U 102 becomes Elite. U 102 is undamaged, while U 59 returns to repairs in Gibraltar due to an air strike.
22 Uboats sent to East Asia through the North East Passage.
Amman taken, Jerusalem attacked. It will fall the very next turn.
My Elite Uboat U 86 is sunk by the regular CL USS Cincinatti. Nevertheless U 87 takes revenge and sinks that cruiser.

PC turn:
Bulgaria makes peace with Russia!!! The US lose a DD in the Caribean and a CL in the North Polar Sea to my Uboats. I was declaring war on Stalin.

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

Sasebo,

Thank you for your comments.

On Japan: I will place more Victory points locations in
Dutch East India.

On Germany: Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria will be integrated
into Germany in version 1.4. That should give more realism.

On Italy: I will try more Victory point locations here also.

On USA. AI can make one amphibious landing, but is unable
to conduct a long amphibious campaign. That really hurts USA.

On France: Yes it seems like France will hold out longer than
historically. However I have no plan for changes with regard to France.
I think that would make things to easy for human playing Germany.

On China: Your suggestion for a alliance with Communist-China only
sounds good. I will probably implement it in version 1.4.

On UK: Overall my impression is that AI is very passive when playing UK.

On USSR: I think version 1.4 will mean a big improvement.
Soviet-AI should be less trigger-happy.

On U-Boats: I will look it over. Its possible they are to powerful.
The over-simplified naval system is really a problem.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Adler17]

Week 15:
Off Chimo I sunk a US DD which broke through my lines with U 40. Off Charleston U 97 sinks 2 further DD. U 79 sinks in the Caribean off Cuba CL USS Savannah, Nashville and St Louis and is promoted to Elite. U 74 sinks there the DD USS Cummings.
Ansi taken. Novosibirsk bombed by Luftwaffe and then taken without resistance. Dehli captured. Jerusalem is mine after losing an Elite motorized Infantry division.
To be continued

Adler

 

[Adler17]

Rocoteh, AI makes more amphiboius lnadings. The US have now, after taken Kurile Islands, a TR with Infantry and the Japanese made even more landings.
Uboats is another problem. I think they are strong but not too strong. In fact they are the only chance Germany has to cope with the Allied ships. After thinking they were even too weak (!) considering fights against BBs, they are okay now. I think you should not alter them.

Adler

 

[Rocoteh]

You are welcome, and THANK YOU! for designing this scenario and supporting its evolution so well. I know a bunch of us here are enjoying it very much. I was sorry to see all the dust-up about the thread. Don't leave! Your scenarios are the best.



Wk33 I take Valencia and Spain is destroyed. The IJN force turns back to Iwo Jima but the landing is turned away. Germany lands more Panzers in England, but they are destroyed next turn trying to take Birmingham.
Wk34 The Marshall Is captured and I destroy the IJN Amphib force is destroyed. Losses for t32-34 are 2B-25, 1F4F, 5SS, 1CL (to a DD) and 5DD. In turn I kill 2U boat, 2IJN SS, 2IJN DD, the last Japanese BB (for now) and a transport.
Wk35-26 I take Okinawa and the Japanese try to take it right back. Their Amphib is repulsed and my Marines generate my first MGL of the war in Okinawa. I lose a2B-25 and 1 sub while destroying a U-boat.

More soon and keep up the good works!

Nick

Nick,

Thank you. Since the limit have been changed to 3 000 posts (about)
I will stay.
I think its still possible to develop this scenario although the game-engine
sets sharp limits.

On Subs that triggers wars:
This is really a problem. Sometimes in the future I will test
the hidden nationality option, to see how it works with regard
to this.

I can see from your report that Japan-AI is to passive with regard
to Dutch East India.

I consider to remove more islands in the Pacific to change that.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rhye]

Italy
Venice, not Vinice
I've never heard of Lecce, so i think you should change it to Taranto
Addis Abeba, not Addis Ababa

Lecce EXISTS. Maybe Taranto is more important as a coastal city.
Addis Abeba is in italian. Addis Ababa in enlgish

 

[Rocoteh]

P.S.Y.C.H.O,

Thank you for your comments on city-names.

I will look at it again before I release version 1.4.

On Jaime I: I will remove since it never were brought back
to normal standards. For the same reason I have not included
the British Battleship Iron Duke.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

to the scenario autors:

you have portugal at democracy, however portugal was under fascism from 30's until 1974, date of the revolution, in which we became a democracy.

please change that in newer versions

great work on this scenario, it's just HUGE! one of the best (if not the best) i have ever seen

krazydude,

Thank you. I am glad to that you like the scenario.

On Portugal and city-names mentioned:

Notes have been taken.

Welcome back with more comments.

Rocoteh

P-51D,

"I am going to download this right away" P-51D

I hope you will post feedback later on.

Rocoteh

 

[Sasebo]

I remember being surprised when I saw that city named Lecce where I expected Taranto to be, roughly. Wasn't Taranto the main Italian naval base in WW2???

 

[Rocoteh]

Bob1475,

Thank you for your comments.

"I don't know why but the Japanese and the Russians seem to avoid each other even when at war." Bob1475

Yes I have also observed that in the reports. Maybe AI only will choose
one opponent at a time to attack when at war.
Its strange anyway.

I think your comments on US and Japan are interesting.

Maybe France and Italy works best after all. (I mean compared to history.)

Welcome back.

Rocoteh

 

[Rocoteh]

allin1joe,

Thank you for the report.

"Sweden attacked Finland pulling us into war" allin1joe

First time that is reported.

"Great Britian declared on the Soviets. Sounds like they ran into a sub by the Kurile Islands." allin1joe

This is really a problem.

It will be interesting to see if Soviet will hold a low profile
in the Far East.

I am looking forward to follow this playtest.

Welcome back.

Rocoteh