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Crispin said:
I tried the french, since I love to play the french in ww2. And also the british used maybe half a hour moving units, so I got bored an quit :|

A shame really, cause the scenario looks so good :)

crispin--the key is to not move all your units, its too much. consolidate them into stacks so you can move the easier and quicker. also Fortify or sentry units you "may not want" to move the next turn. the first turn is always brutal but after that it continually gets better.

fyi: use the J key and ctrl + J keys to move multiple units at the same time.

...you can do this with aircraft too! ;) So hope your not using shift+R for every plane



jb
 
I didn't know it worked with aircraft too! To think of the number of hours I have wasted moving individual aircraft.... bah!!!!
 
Hornblower said:
I didn't know it worked with aircraft too! To think of the number of hours I have wasted moving individual aircraft.... bah!!!!

yup, when the aircraft is selected, shift+j to move the same type (i think) and J to move whole stack.

what I haven't figured out is how to make the whole stack attack! :(
 
@oljb007 and Hornblower - thanks for the feedback, the shortcuts and "action" oriented civs will help tremendously.

Many thanks...:worship:
 
Any word on when the completed "Huge" version will be available for us to take a crack at? Love the increased number of cities in Europe particularly, it really makes you fight across France.

- Gallowglass
 
Hmm that tip may seem to be very usefull. Well tonight my gf is working late, so I think I'll have another try with this scenario. But another thing I saw was this great amount of resources located around the map. Whats that for? Keeping close cities big? :)

And what about the persian? I thought that was a empire back in the very old days? :)
And Spain seem to have a LARGE navy, I have no idea how it actually was, but ive played quite a lot, and Spain have never had any or very few naval units. But seing as this scenario is very accurate, you are propably right :)
 
Rocoteh,

the conversation regarding unit specific resources pertaining to machine gunners and tank production in africa got me thinking. In this scenario it is very easy to capture cities and then turn them into major production centers quite quickly. I was thinking of a way to limit that, via wonders or resources. I have no scenario creation experience but I think this aspect could use your attention. Germany takes france and poland, those cities should not turn into Germany production super cities, its just not the way it was.

That was my thought, may entail too much work but at least its something for you to think about.
 
oljb007 said:
Rocoteh,

do you have a "huge" out for testing since the one that only had france, germany and italy at 100%? looking to play opening rounds again with more 100% nations.

thanks,
jb

ps prior to the december release!

oljb007,

BETA 1.8 with the forces of Soviet, Japan, China and
US placed will be completed within some days.
I will send a copy to you.

Rocoteh
 
Gallowglass said:
Any word on when the completed "Huge" version will be available for us to take a crack at? Love the increased number of cities in Europe particularly, it really makes you fight across France.

- Gallowglass

Gallowglass,

Target date for the "Huge" version is now December 15.
That should give me time to rework unit stats.

Rocoteh
 
Hornblower,

Thank you for the report.

The Soviet Juggernaut just keeps rolling over all who resist them. They now control the entire continental landmass of Asia from Kamchatka in the east to Singapore in the south and all the way across to Stettin in Germany and all of Norway. Persia and Arabia have been conquered as has North and Central Africa. They continue to push south seemingly intent on heading for Cape Town. The Soviet heavy unit order of battle is as follows:
41 - T34/76
73 - T34/85
230 - SU122
106 - IS1
149 - IS2
121 - Soviet Guard Infantry
193 - Russian Infantry
Hornblower

Its an incredible force! It will be hard to defeat it.

"The Germans have been dealing with the indignity of having a Soviet enclave consisting of Brussels, Amsterdam and Ruhr. They are assaulting it heavily however the cunning Soviets heavily garrisioned it during the peace.
The Germans have been slaughtering their opponent however they don't have the numbers to keep this up and shortly I feel that the Soviets will mount an unstoppable offensive. The German heavy units OOB is as follows:

21 - Panther (29)
19 - Jagdpanther (33)
64 - SS Panzer 1943 (97)
22 - StuGIII (27)
22 - German Infantry (54)

(The brackets indicate the initial numbers when the offensive began a few turns ago)
Things look bleak for the Germans. The only bright point for them is Gorings Luftwaffe. Fighter cover is playing murderous havoc with the Soviet bomber streams.
64 - HS219's
24 - ME262's have formed an impenetrable shield. So far the Soviets have lost 40 bombers and seem to be happy to keep throwing them at the cities in preparation for the inevitable armoured assault."
Hornblower

This is a very interesting situation! The German forces are very strong
but will probably not be able to stop the Soviets.

"The USA has been slowly building in strength. By necessity I have conquered all the small nations of the America's. Only Brazil remains in the south and the British in the north. The only reason the nation of Brazil remains is due to their jungle terrain forcing me to build a large force of Marines and Infantry prior to launching the attack. The USAAF is a formidable beast with:
60 B-29's
60 B-17's
60 P-51's
24 P-38's
12 B-24's
12 A-26's
12 Wildcats
This will not be enough to break through German aircover though.
Instead I shall assault Norway and Amsterdam simultaneously. I shall then strategically withdraw from Europe through Copenhagen and up to Scandenavia thus allowing the Germans to retake their original conquests. This will hopefully give them some respite and allow me to establish a bridge head in the more easily defensible Norwegian terrain. Hopefully the Soviets will batter themselves to death on my wall of steel whilst the Germans recover and give the Soviets two threats to worry about. Now all I have to do is build up my tank and artillery divisions to the point that this scheme will be viable. 60 Heavy US artillery, 60 Jacksons and 120 Pershings should be a good start....."
Hornblower

A very strong airforce.
Your strategy sounds good. This is probably the best way to go now.

I an really looking forward to follow how this playtest turns out.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
oljb007 said:
Rocoteh,

the conversation regarding unit specific resources pertaining to machine gunners and tank production in africa got me thinking. In this scenario it is very easy to capture cities and then turn them into major production centers quite quickly. I was thinking of a way to limit that, via wonders or resources. I have no scenario creation experience but I think this aspect could use your attention. Germany takes france and poland, those cities should not turn into Germany production super cities, its just not the way it was.

That was my thought, may entail too much work but at least its something for you to think about.

oljb007,

I understand your point, but its hard to make such changes
within the CIV III game-engine.

Rocoteh
 
Crispin said:
I just loved ww2 scenarioes for the civ2. Now ive tried a few ww2 for civ3, but its sometimes hard to get them to work, or to get them to load, loading time over 1hr with a amd 3500 with 1024mb ram is just to much :| So im looking for save games for this scenario, it says I can find them in post 3 9 and 10, but I cannot find them, so a bit dummy help here please :)

The scenario looks just totally awesome.

And whats up with having Persia as a country? I guess its been answered before, but I wont go through all 209 posts to find it :) And also thailand is allied with the evil powers ?!

"And after spending almost an hour on the first round, im tired. The scenario is to accurate, maybe this is to much for me, but there are really many units in the game :)

Hmm that tip may seem to be very usefull. Well tonight my gf is working late, so I think I'll have another try with this scenario. But another thing I saw was this great amount of resources located around the map. Whats that for? Keeping close cities big?

And what about the persian? I thought that was a empire back in the very old days?
And Spain seem to have a LARGE navy, I have no idea how it actually was, but ive played quite a lot, and Spain have never had any or very few naval units. But seing as this scenario is very accurate, you are propably right"
Crispin

Crispin,

The saved games are no longer needed since version 2.0
loads fast.

Persia was a independent nation 1939.
Britain and Soviet occupied it 1941 after only a few days of fighting.

Thailand become allied with Japan during the war.

On resources near cities:
Yes to keep cities at realistic levels is one reason.

On the Spanish navy:

Yes the Order of Battle for it is accurate.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
Ah, yup I know you was right, ive just finished round 2, and now germany is bashing me, awesome scenario :D
 
Rocoteh,

playtest report
HUGE
sid
Germany

wk 15 '40
declared war on soviets.

wk 22 '40
after taking numerous cities minor slipup and lost a forward city with 13 jb87's. figured it balanced out the fact the russians have no air force in place yet! ;)

wk 35 40'
Russians only have about 6 cities left on the east side of the Urals. Their tank force is now finally starting to dwindle below the sustained high 50's of t-26's

General report:

took crete and British control island city east of crete.

bombardment of gibralter but they are heavily garrisoned

US has over 350 infantry, UK is nearly 280

US is building heavy cruisers and just started C2 heavy cruisers (wk 30 40') and major battles are occuring in the open waters of the N Atlantic!

Japan withdrew or lost all her destroyers in the north atlantic.

UK is bombing German cities (nice to see that actually)

Japan has taken lots of cities on mainland china and has a northen phillipine city

Dumping enormous resources into science but it is slow going. US has C2 heavy cruisers and I am still 20+ turns from getting either those or Panzer IIIg's I was not to happy with this slow science rate thing but now I am thinking this is kind of cool. emphasizes the German lead in science in the beginning then a tide swing to the allied's. (all that book burning!) I'll probably go IIIg's as I have the Bismarc class which rules the atlantic at present.

Italy has a considerable amount of battleships in the mediterranean and they still have them which is also nice to see. They also are assisting quite effectively in the N. Atlantic against the brits. However, they only use subs and light cruisers! no battlehsips there! :(

In regards to Italy, I am in the process of sending tons of engineers to mine and irrigate their land as nothing has been done! they may need a few engineers to start with. (kinda like England and their polution problem in the small map version)

On that note, England doesn't seem to be mining any of their land either!

England has 5-6 king George battleships but I dont know where. obviously not in the north atlantic. They are also building tons of the recon bombers I think that is what they are called. They are also building the 1939 destroyers by the boat loads. (pun intended)

The US took a japaneese city on the northern island but quickly lost it back, I think that has happened a couple of times as the city is now only a size 3!

Problems:

Slow science, its cool but at later stages it will be seriously off based in my opinion. As germany will probably never see the jet fighter! :(

my resources in the city view shows two alluminum icons, one I have 2 of and another I have 8 of!

Russia doesn't build any planes? I am wondering if they have an issue with their science rate but time will till. I will leave them large enough to see if they get the t-34's

US/UK building tons of infantry (iffy problem)

I can send you a save game if you want to see or look. I have lots of spys and lots of money!
 
Awesome Rocoteh glad to hear you're closing in on it that fast. Still playing through the BETA with only a few countries placed so far and it's great now, can't wait to see the completed scenario.

- Gallowglass
 
Crispin said:
Ah, yup I know you was right, ive just finished round 2, and now germany is bashing me, awesome scenario :D

Crispin,

Thank you.

Looking forward to more comments from you.

Rocoteh
 
oljb007,

Thank you for the report.

"wk 35 40'
Russians only have about 6 cities left on the east side of the Urals. Their tank force is now finally starting to dwindle below the sustained high 50's of t-26's"
oljb007

This will be harder when all Soviet forces have been placed.

"US is building heavy cruisers and just started C2 heavy cruisers (wk 30 40') and major battles are occuring in the open waters of the N Atlantic"
oljb007

This is very positive!

"Italy has a considerable amount of battleships in the mediterranean and they still have them which is also nice to see. They also are assisting quite effectively in the N. Atlantic against the brits. However, they only use subs and light cruisers! no battlehsips there!"
oljb007

Strange!

"On that note, England doesn't seem to be mining any of their land either!"
oljb007


You will see changes in BETA 1.8.

"They are also building tons of the recon bombers I think that is what they are called."
oljb007

That is not good! Its possible I will remove them.

"Slow science, its cool but at later stages it will be seriously off based in my opinion. As germany will probably never see the jet fighter!"
oljb007


However you play on Sid-level.

"Russia doesn't build any planes? I am wondering if they have an issue with their science rate but time will till. I will leave them large enough to see if they get the t-34's"
oljb007

AI will regard planes as "luxury" as long as its short on infantry.

"I can send you a save game if you want to see or look. I have lots of spys and lots of money!"
oljb007


I appreciate that.

Thank you and welcome back.

Rocoteh
 
oljb007 said:
Awesome Rocoteh glad to hear you're closing in on it that fast. Still playing through the BETA with only a few countries placed so far and it's great now, can't wait to see the completed scenario.

- Gallowglass

Gallowglass,

I will complete BETA 1.8 within some days.
It will have all Soviet, Chinese, Japanese and US units placed.

Rocoteh
 
Adler17 said:
I think the technological tree and especially the time needed should be reworked.

Adler

Adler,

Yes I intend to rework these aspects of the scenario.

Rocoteh
 
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