You Set The Salaries

FearlessLeader2 said:
If I can make the same amount of money as a security guard as I could as a doctor, and I don't have to spend seven years at university learning to be a security guard, why in Stalin's name would I ever become a doctor?
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You could become a doctor, but only work 8 hour weeks. The rest of the time you could spend with your family, in church, or just generally relaxing in front of the TV with a hot meal and some friends.
 
Or you can be realistic and be a doctor who is on call all the time and frequently working for 30 hours straight.
 
Fetus4188 said:
Or you can be realistic and be a doctor who is on call all the time and frequently working for 30 hours straight.
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We get more doctors and less menial labourers. That is, low paid workers would work longer hours, to make up for their lack of intelligence/skills, meaning we will need less of them, so the more intelligent can move up the career ladder, which will eventually lead to more doctors to replace the ones who only work 8 hour weeks.
 
rmsharpe said:
Why do we need salary caps for any professional sport?

There are what, 14 players on any Major League Baseball team? There are 30 MLB teams in the U.S., so that's 420 MLB players nationally, out of 290 million people in the United States.
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it doesnt really matter what the % is of MLB players compared to other Americans. What does matter is that the current system is more then a little unjust. I thought maybe you might have been more sensitive to the plight of small market teams, seeing as your hometown ball club almost got contracted a few years ago because they dont have a huge amount of personal wealth behind them like the yankees. But maybe you arent a baseball fan.

Lets compare Major League Baseball, where there are no salary caps or wage restrictions or spending caps, to the NFL, where minimal cap rules apply. (the NFL does not in fact, actually have a wage limit per player, only per team, which thus restricts the amount of money a team can spend on one player)

A few major league baseball teams are in huge media markets (NY, LA), and are owned by people with huge amounts of personal money to infuse into the team's payroll, reguardless of if the team turns a profit. The Yankees are bouyed by a tv station. Rupert Murdock owns the LA DOdgers, etc etc. There are, at most, 6 baseball teams (Both NY clubs, the Angels, Dodgers, Red Sox and the Braves) in this situation. For the rest of the clubs, they must build teams via the draft and with their farm systems, milk the young kids for a few years, and when they get really good, they have to trade them to the big teams for prospects, and let the cycle renew.

Meanwhile, salaries go flying upwards, in a mini-cold war over the best players by the big 6. There is little compitition in Baseball, the fans get screwed, because tickets have to cost 70 bucks, and most players get screwed, because they lose their flexibilty as to where they can play.

The NFL has none of those rules. Players have a easier way of changing teams based on their flucuating market value, ticket prices are lower, and every team has a chance to compete each year, depending on the skill of their management, because from the start, everybody gets an equal shot at everybody. Thats why everybody loves football.
 
rmsharpe said:
Only if I added an article from the Freedom Underground.
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see - another troll :) all you do it troll, troll, troll
 
this rmsharpe guy is not very nice, he seems to have it "in" for you?? Did you hurt his feeling in the past??
 
Hurt my feelings? :lol:

No, it's just that he has a tendency to post articles that the Weekly World News wouldn't publish.
 
Nintendo said:
this rmsharpe guy is not very nice, he seems to have it "in" for you?? Did you hurt his feeling in the past??
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rmsharpe isn't a very nice guy. He's the guy you wouldn't invite to your pool party, only to find out he is holding one himself with the dallas cheerleaders as lifeguards.

-note to rm, would you consider the dallas cheerleaders offensive;)

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Azadre said:
rmsharpe isn't a very nice guy. He's the guy you wouldn't invite to your pool party, only to find out he is holding one himself with the dallas cheerleaders as lifeguards.
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:nono: There's no need to troll just because the moderators are active.
 
rmsharpe said:
Hurt my feelings? :lol:

No, it's just that he has a tendency to post articles that the Weekly World News wouldn't publish.
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Actually, I tend to post articles from websites, commercial tv and national broadsheet newspapers. Stop living in your own fantasy world
 
You post them from the "Freedom Underground" and from some supposedly "independent journalist" in Iraq.

I can't help but think of the Jew reading a neo-Nazi newspaper (it's a joke.) The gist of it is, two Jews are sitting on a bench, one of them is reading a neo-Nazi newspaper and the other a Jewish paper. The Jewish paper man asks "why are you reading that garbage?"

The other man says "I used to read that paper, but what did I find? Terrorism in Israel, anti-Semitism in Europe, and Jews living in poverty. So I switched to the neo-Nazi paper. Now what do I find? Jews own all the banks, Jews are rich and powerful, Jews control the media! The news here is much better!"
 
rmsharpe said:
You post them from the "Freedom Underground" and from some supposedly "independent journalist" in Iraq.
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I was hoping that you'd do that :goodjob:

You imply that I post articles from only those sources: Freedom Underground and an idependent journalist. You say "supposedly", so I assume you mean that he is actually affiliated with some news organisation: I'm sure that you'll find proof for that :)

In the past month, I have posted articles from: The Sunday Herald newspaper, http://www.freedomunderground.org, http://www.commondreams.org, BBC News, The New York Times newspaper, The Scotsman newspaper, The Daily Telegraph newspaper, http://www.americanfreepress.net, Bloomberg, MSNBC, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info, The Guardian newspaper, Inter Press Service News Agency, Yahoo News, http://www.jihadunspun.com, http://www.truthout.org, Free Inquiry Magazine and http://www.newtopiamagazine.net

Quite a varied bunch in there, eh?
 
rmsharpe said:
Hurt my feelings? :lol:

No, it's just that he has a tendency to post articles that the Weekly World News wouldn't publish.
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Well I’m sorry if I have started a troll, flaming, glitch to the thread, i did not mean to offend. I hope the moderators understand this, I’m truly sorry. :o
 
zulu9812 said:
see - another troll :) all you do it troll, troll, troll
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Oh, the irony..............
 
I would start everyone out at a flat 20-30K base salary range, then, depending on the contribution and importence to society, that salary would be raised or lowered. Less important jobs (things like entertainment, sports) would make less. More important jobs (like civic works, military, medical, etc.) would make more. Maybe a 10-20K give or take on each range. Important jobs would yeild about 50,000 top. Less important ones (acting, entertainment, sports) would get 15,000 minimum. Jobs should never really be over 60,000 a year. People wind up buying material wealth for themselves rather than for others. That, I would think, would stop the rich from getting richer and the poor from getting poorer. Yes, you could still get overtime pay.

Just wondering, what kind of system would the above fall under?
 
Chieftess said:
I would start everyone out at a flat 20-30K base salary range, then, depending on the contribution and importence to society, that salary would be raised or lowered...

Just wondering, what kind of system would the above fall under?
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Totalitarianism.
 
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In communism needs of every individual are fully saturated. All work diligently for the Queen, all work for the Hive, all work to give larvae the bright new future...
Ouch, we were talking about humans...?
 
Actor (Movies) 1K
Actor (Stage) 1K
Actor (TV) 1K
Airplane Mechanic 1K
Artist 1K
Athelete (Major League) 1K
Athelete (Minor League) 1K
Attorney 25K
Auto Mechanic 1K
Bank Teller 1K
Bartender 1K
Bodyguard 1K
Cartoonist 1K
Cashier 1K
Clergyman 1K
Computer Programmer 1K
Computer Repairman 1K
Construction Worker 1K
Cook 1K
Crane Operator 1K
Director (Movies) 1K
Doctor 1K
Electrician 1K
Farmer 1K
Fast Food Worker 1K
Firefighter 1K
Foreman 1K
Forklift Operator 1K
General 1K
High School Principal 1K
Hotel Maid 1K
Infantryman 1K
Judge 1K
K-12 Teacher 1K
Legislator 1K
Manager (Supermarket or Small Restaurant) 1K
Movie Critic 1K
Musician 1K
Newspaper/Magazine Columnist 1K
Newspaper/Magazine Editor 1K
Nurse 1K
Pilot (Commercial) 1K
Pilot (Military) 1K
Playwright 1K
Poet 1K
Police 1K
President (CEO) 1K
President/Prime Minister 25K
Real Estate Agent 1K
Refinery Worker 1K
Salesman 1K
Secretary 1K
Security Guard 1K
Store Clerk 1K
Store Greeter 1K
Stunt Double 1K
Surgeon 1K
Taxi Driver 1K
Telemarketer 1K
Travel Agent 1K
Truck Driver (Freight) 1K
Truck Driver (Hazmat) 1K
University Professor 1K
Writer (Movies) 1K
Writer (Non-Fiction) 1K
Writer (Novels) 1K
Writer (Television) 1K

Lawyers and politicians are most (morally) bankrupt. To each according to their need.. and they are most in need.
 
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