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You've met the City State of Thebes

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by phillipwyllie, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. phillipwyllie

    phillipwyllie Wannabe Deity

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    Tired playing a single city challenge on Emperor, here's the results:

    Most satisfying win.
     

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  2. Smokeybear

    Smokeybear Emperor

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    Good going! Did you know that even if an improvable sea resource is outside your 3-ring, you will still get a good amount of gold per turn from using a workboat on it? Looks like you have a couple of fish(?) in your 4-5 rings that haven't been improved. Not that it's any big deal for you in that particular game, by the looks of it, but towards the latter part of a game, any improved sea resources in those rings can net you up to 5-6gpt, which adds up nicely over the long run.
     
  3. beestar

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    Really? How do you get more money from an improved fish in the 4 or 5 rings? I must be missing something in my games.

    Improved crab I could see; just sell it to the AI.
     
  4. reddishrecue

    reddishrecue Deity

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    He has one of the fishes (bonus resource) improved.
     
  5. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    You can't get the extra gold yield if the improved fish is in ring 4 or 5 of the city, unless you're playing with a mod that allows you work tiles in ring 4 and 5.
     
  6. Smokeybear

    Smokeybear Emperor

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    You don't get the normal +1 gold from them since you can't put a citizen on that tile, but you do get extra gold per turn just from placing a boat there, besides that. Next time you have an improvable sea resource out on one of those outer rings, check your gpt total before, then after using a workboat on it- you'll see it go up anywhere from 2-6 gpt, depending on what era it is. Not sure what hidden mechanic causes this, but it does happen. And I don't use any mods that allows you to place a citizen beyond ring 3, either. See for yourself, next time you play.
     
  7. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    THAT is intruiging enough for a test.

    EDIT: I wasn't able to replicate what you reported, but testing this made me focus on a possible explanation for what you observed.

    If you send a workboat to a ring 4 or 5 fish tile, and then create a fishing boat, your gold per turn will rise by at least 1 gpt. But that has nothing to do with the tile yield. That is the reduction in unit maintenance cost that results from turning the work boat (which has a maintenance cost) into a fishing boat (which has no maintenance cost). Later in the game, when maintenance costs increase substantially, the "reward" for burning a work boat is greater.
     
  8. Magma_Dragoon

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    The gpt goes up when you place the boat because you aren't paying maintenance on it anymore >.>
     
  9. georgie

    georgie Warlord

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    This. I did the same thing as Smokeybear when I first played before I knew about maintenance costs and how citizens working tiles worked.
     
  10. YourHarry

    YourHarry Chieftain

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    Yep, you also get extra gold by sending your workers to the barbarian camps. This is a less known secret in the game. In addition, sending great scientists into camps also work in a similar manner.
     
  11. Sonereal

    Sonereal ♫We got the guillotine♫ Supporter

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    Link to video.
     
  12. holywar

    holywar Chieftain

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    You deserve a gold star.
     
  13. holywar

    holywar Chieftain

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    I coughed up a lung laughing.
     
  14. Smokeybear

    Smokeybear Emperor

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    LOL! Ok, I'll admit I never considered that possibility, my bad. Dangit.
     
  15. phillipwyllie

    phillipwyllie Wannabe Deity

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    Here's another try, even more satisfying as I had all the CS's in my pocket and Alex was in the game.
     

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  16. Loucypher

    Loucypher King

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    Just curious, wth happened to the Dutch in your first game? Never seen a conquered city as capitol before...
     
  17. phillipwyllie

    phillipwyllie Wannabe Deity

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    He helped Carthage wipe out Portugal, then Rome Helped himself to Amsterdam, then Bismark helped himself Amsterdam......
     
  18. satchel

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    Is there a particular reason to choose archipelago maps when playing a one-city type game?
     
  19. mikeville

    mikeville Chieftain

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    My guess would be fewer shared borders means less hostility from neighbors means a more peaceful game means he doesn't have to build up as much military. OCC on pangea might be something to write home about though...
     
  20. Sturmgewher88mm

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    So... How mad would you be if someone settled on that ONE corner of your island that your borders can't expand to..? :mischief:
     

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