Zwei833's German (Real and Alternate) History Civs

[zwei833]

While that's true, most of the times we use colour schemes that match the feeling of the civ rather than the colour they actually used. Gray, White, Black with any shade of yellowish colours will "match" people's expectations of the Holy Roman Empire.

For example, I have these colour schemes for different holy roman emperors.

Your icons are very beautiful! I like the colour theme of the second one. I will proberly find some proper(and unsimilar to JFD and your HREs) colur for my HRE later.
(And I hope you're not making another Maximilian I's HRE)
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c) Its basically the same as Landsknecht, perhaps with Maximilian Armor.

And natan, what do you think of this?
(Just an alpha version, I will do some re-texture of the armour to make it more Maximilian-style, I promise...)

 

[Tarmont]

(And I hope you're not making another Maximilian I's HRE

Nah, I don't like the Habsburgs, and I already have enough planned civs to last for the next 4 years. Maybe then I'll do another one.

 

[JFD]

Nah, I don't like the Habsburgs.

I find your blasphemy alarming

 

[zwei833]

And icons are made..

 

[Natan35]

Zwei, you're an awesome artist.

 

[Timewalker102]

Damn, your art is good.

I know you're getting overloaded by design ideas, but if your third civilisation (after the HRE) is the Weimar Republic, here's my idea for it:

Spoiler :

The Weimar Republic, as led by Gustav Stresemann

Unique Ability: Golden Twenties
(Natan35's design, as his UA is better than anything I can think of right now).

Unique Unit: Reichswehr Infantry Regiment
The Unique Great War Infantry of the Weimarian civilisation. Gains a combat strength bonus near friendly lands.

Unique Unit #2: Zeppelin
The Unique Great War Bomber of the Weimarian civilisation. Classified as a ranged hovering unit, and thus can move around the map unlike the Great War Bomber. May move after attacking. No defensive terrain bonuses. May move above mountains. May not capture cities. Movement of 7 . Ranged strength of 47, down from 50 . Combat strength of 37 . Range of 3, down from 5.

 

[Natan35]

I've got that for Weimar:

Weimar Republic(Gustav Stresemann)
UA: Golden Twenties
Receive culture and happiness equal to 25% of the highest tourism value exerted against your empire, increased to 50% during golden ages. Golden age point generation in cities is increased by great people generation modifiers.

UB: Gymnasium
Replaces public school. Increases great people generation by 25%, and contains a random cultural specialist slot.

UU: Freikorps
Replaces great war infantry. In addition to starting with 15 EXP, the Freikorps also generates golden age points from kills and offsets anarchy when stationed in cities.

 

[Timewalker102]

No! I got ninjaed!

Also Natan, Freikorps is already a unit in zwei833's mod, that's why I settled on Reichswehr Infantry Regiment.

I'll finish the design today, I promise!

 

[Hoop Thrower]

Maybe go for a non-infantry UU?

You surely will be able to find some funky interwar tank abomination or some strange sort of airplane. Hell, a Zeppelin could do just fine.

 

[TheLohoped]

Zeppelin would actually be a great UU for the Weimar Republic! Really unique and representative of its era.

 

[Natan35]

So... Do you have nay suggestions for its specifics?

(And of course wat u think of my deisen)

 

[Timewalker102]

How do you think of my Zeppelin implementation? It's designed to be a fast, good ranged unit that is very vulnerable to attack.

 

[sxtp]

hi cant wait to try this civ looks pretty nice.

altough personally i would replace the schlachtschwertierer with the longswordsman because lancers are kind of late in the techtree and greatswords/zweihänder were used to crush pikeformations afaik. but thats just my personal opinion on that.

other than that nice work!

 

[zwei833]

Sorry for late to reply due to my exam of Criminal Law

Thanks for the design ideas from all of you!

Now I do a little review on the UU ideas of Weimar Repulic.

Reichswehr: this should be the most controversy-less UU.

Feikorps: actually, I think this is more interesting than Reichswehr, the problem is, as Timewalker102 said, there is already an UU named 'Feikorps' in my FWI's Germany mod. I don't mind to rename the 'Feikorps' in FWI's Germany, but first I need to find another proper name, Jaeger? but already used in JFD's Bismarck's Germany...

interwar tank: well, sorry, I don't like this. It seems a early Nazi Germany UU...

Zeppelin: This is a really cool unit, really. And I like Timewalker102's design! However, I'm a little doubt that if Zeppelin is really a millitary unit during Weimar era? or they're almost in civil use?
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Another question is, which leader of Weimar do you prefer? Friedrich Ebert or Gustav Stresemann? (no Hindenburg, no )

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hi cant wait to try this civ looks pretty nice.

altough personally i would replace the schlachtschwertierer with the longswordsman because lancers are kind of late in the techtree and greatswords/zweihänder were used to crush pikeformations afaik. but thats just my personal opinion on that.

other than that nice work!

Thanks! Glad to see you like this mod.
Actually, in the early design, Schlachtschwertierer is replace longswordsman. I change it to a lancer replacement later because I think there are already too much longswordsman UU now, and I want them appear later in the Game(the Schlachtschwerter sword in Horn are actually made in late 16C). About its attribute desgin, the Doppelsoldner in JFD's HRE civ is stronger against spearman and pikeman, I don't want to repeat that, so I design a bouns of city-attacking because there is a legend of the Schlachtschwertierer rescued the Count of Lippe from a castle.

 

[Timewalker102]

Sorry for late to reply due to my exam of Criminal Law

Thanks for the design ideas from all of you!

Now I do a little review on the UU ideas of Weimar Repulic.

Feikorps: actually, I think this is more interesting than Reichswehr, the problem is, as Timewalker102 said, there is already an UU named 'Feikorps' in my FWI's Germany mod. I don't mind to rename the 'Feikorps' in FWI's Germany, but first I need to find another proper name, Jaeger? but already used in JFD's Bismarck's Germany...

Easy compromise: take the Freikorps's abilities and call it the Werhmact! Nobody will know...

Zeppelin: This is a really cool unit, really. And I like Timewalker102's design! However, I'm a little doubt that if Zeppelin is really a millitary unit during Weimar era? or they're almost in civil use?

Yeah, they weren't in military use (I believe). So perhaps the Freikorps-Reichswehr and a UB? You could use the Gymnasium. Alternatively:

Spoiler :

Unique Building: Cabaret
The Unique Zoo of the Weimarian civilisation. Provides +2 Happiness :c5happiness:, like a normal Zoo. Includes 1 Great Work of Writing slot , which if filled generates an additional point of happiness and +25% Gold during Golden Ages .

Another question is, which leader of Weimar do you prefer? Friedrich Ebert or Gustav Stresemann? (no Hindenburg, no )

I say Gustav.

 

[Uighur_Caesar]

The Zeppelin could be a unique civilian unit. I have no idea what it could do but that would be interesting.

 

[ldvhl]

Could be an upgraded Scout, ala ExCE?

 

[Timewalker102]

Ooh. Maybe:

Unique Unit: Zeppelin
Standalone civilian unit of the Weimarian civilisation. Classified as a hovering unit, with 6 moves . A Zeppelin may set up a trade route to another city, which grants less gold , science and religious pressure but provides extra tourism against that civilisation per turn.

 

[Hoop Thrower]

Well, Zeppelins weren't quite used as military units during the Weimar Republic because, err, Germany wasn't allowed to use Military anything during those times, so... yeah.

That doesn't remove the fact that they were heavily used as Bombers during WWI, and given how representative they are of this period, I'd say they'd be more than fitting even if they aren't 100% accurate to the period.

 

[Natan35]

Could be an upgraded Scout, ala ExCE?

Hmmm...

UU: Zeppelin
Replaces airship. While retaining the airship's abilities, the Zeppelin may perform a bombing raid within 2 tiles of a city, dealing damage to the city and to units adjacent to it based in its level. Upgrades to the helicopter gunship.