1205 AD on GEM

[Arlborn]

In a game at Monarch (where I play the Papal State and dont interfere with other civs but just mind my business), in 1416 AD the Reconquista is nearly complete.
Yusuf is left with just Valencia in Iberia.
If Castile-Leon attacks the city, they can take it, even though I suspect the AI will wait until it has more units.
Perhaps completing the Reconquista closer to 1492 AD, like in history.


I tried to start a game as Castile-Leon at Monarch too.
By 1225 AD, within 5 rounds, I took both cities from Yusuf and completed the Reconquista.
Portugal helped me too sending a few troops.

What is crucial is to attack Yusuf early.
It is beneficial to also send the Spanish large fleet (they start with a Galleon and two caravels, plus a few triremes and galleys) into the mediterranean to block reinforcements coming from Africa.

Clearly enough the AI is ******** and doesnt implement any strategy

Not your fault though!

And remember, gameplay should be as important as realism!

 

[Lean]

Isn't that what the AI of Civ 4 is for? Anyway, Yusuf does strike fast in my games, crippling Castile-Leon by attacking their units, not citites, and then going for the cities after Castile-Leon's units are gone. I'm quite curious to see weather or not Yusuf will make it to Italy and Rome. That would make for an intresting turn of events.

 

[Traiano]

I'm going to check if the DLL with 48 civs works fine with such an already huge map.

If feasible I'll add other civs to the mod.
I just hope playability doesnt sink because of the loading time.

Tentatively I could add the following:

Kingdom of Norway (Europe), Kara-Khitai Khanate (Central Asia), Dali Kingdom (China), Pagan Kindgom (Thailand), Srivijaya Kingdom (Sumatra) and Swahili City-States (Africa).

For those already killed by the lag, I highly recommend speeding up the game doing this:

- Load the Gem.

- Start Task Manager.

- Select the civexe file, right click on it.

- Upgrade the Priority Level to HIGH.

It does make quite a difference, as your computer will play civ4-related processes ahead of anything else.

Yes, it does make your system unstable and you have to re-apply this change every time you load civ 4 (setting reverts to default, ergo low priority).

 

[Adhesive86]

And Scotland? (I know it's only one city)

Lithuania should definitely be in there in the Baltic as they were quite a big empire.

I'm going to check if the DLL with 48 civs works fine with such an already huge map.

If feasible I'll add other civs to the mod.
I just hope playability doesnt sink because of the loading time.

Tentatively I could add the following:

Kingdom of Norway (Europe), Kara-Khitai Khanate (Central Asia), Dali Kingdom (China), Pagan Kindgom (Thailand), Srivijaya Kingdom (Sumatra) and Swahili City-States (Africa).

For those already killed by the lag, I highly recommend speeding up the game doing this:

- Load the Gem.

- Start Task Manager.

- Select the civexe file, right click on it.

- Upgrade the Priority Level to HIGH.

It does make quite a difference, as your computer will play civ4-related processes ahead of anything else.

Yes, it does make your system unstable and you have to re-apply this change every time you load civ 4 (setting reverts to default, ergo low priority).

 

[Traiano]

I like Scotland but with just one city is pointless to include it.

Lithuania became a powerhouse in the baltic, but it was after 1205 AD, and it was as Poland-Lithuania, therefore I'll just leave Poland as it is.
In the game usually they take over Riga and expand naturally into Lithuanian lands.

Do not misunderstand me, I'd like to add extra civs, but I think there is a limit to the amount of space allowed for LH names/characters.
If it passes a certain amount, then the game crashes to desktop, even though the dll allows extra civs.

 

[Adhesive86]

I like Scotland but with just one city is pointless to include it.

Lithuania became a powerhouse in the baltic, but it was after 1205 AD, and it was as Poland-Lithuania, therefore I'll just leave Poland as it is.
In the game usually they take over Riga and expand naturally into Lithuanian lands.

Do not misunderstand me, I'd like to add extra civs, but I think there is a limit to the amount of space allowed for LH names/characters.
If it passes a certain amount, then the game crashes to desktop, even though the dll allows extra civs.

http://www.euratlas.com/history_europe/europe_map_1200.html

Take a look re Lithuania. It did join Poland, but then split up again... then went back. Either way, if you're adding civs it would arguably really deserve a place.

 

[Gregg_Bandy]

Swahili City-States would be a nice addition to the game.

 

[Traiano]

I found a way that should allow to include Scotland (modifying the map a bit, to include also the Hebrides isles).

The bad news is I keep having some problems with the dll when I add new civs and go beyond 40.

As of now, the game keep crashing to desktop when I try to load it, even though I created the new civs into the wbs and used all the slots up to # 48.

I'm going to experiment and see if the problem is that the barbarian civ must be the last one listed, ergo #49 in the wbs, rather than stay at # 40, as I have been trying to do.

 

[Lean]

Horray for editing! (I hope) So uh...what would happen if the game still crashes even after you place the Barbs as #49? I suppose that the civ count stays the same as the latest version, correct? Good luck, I sure do hope you can get it to work.

 

[Adhesive86]

I found a way that should allow to include Scotland (modifying the map a bit, to include also the Hebrides isles).

The bad news is I keep having some problems with the dll when I add new civs and go beyond 40.

As of now, the game keep crashing to desktop when I try to load it, even though I created the new civs into the wbs and used all the slots up to # 48.

I'm going to experiment and see if the problem is that the barbarian civ must be the last one listed, ergo #49 in the wbs, rather than stay at # 40, as I have been trying to do.

Great news! FYI I remember that when playing as England I always used to be able to plant two cities anyway- Shetland and Edinburgh/Glasgow which weere Scottish territory. Admittedly Shetland is not on the mainland.

Ps I think Kai is expanding Scotland and Ireland for his map so you may want to get in touch if you wanted to keep the same map.

Can't wait to play your revised version anyway. Had alot of work on with final year of uni, but will be good to get back into playing.

 

[Traiano]

Thanks to an input from Kai I'm now adding new civs (the issue was indeed the position of the barbarian civ).
The edit, so far, is going smoothly.

I already added Scotland, with two cities -Edinburgh & Inverness - that I managed to fit considering I expanded the highlands by a little (one square more at the top, plus two squares for Hebrides isles).

I also already included Norway and the Kara Khitai, each civ with its own new LH.

I'm currently working on the Srivijaya Empire, then I'll take care of the Swahili city-states.

I might even add two extra civs, like Kingdom of Dali and the Pagan Kingdom but I havent made up my mind yet.

 

[Agent327]

Nice job - keep it up!

 

[Traiano]

I'm close to be done.
I am just removing little bugs.

The following civs have been added, all of them with their own new LH:

- Kingdom of Norway (3 cities)

- Kingdom of Scotland (2 cities)

- Kara-Khitai Khanate (4 cities)

- Swahili City States (2 cities)

- Srivijaya Empire (3 cities)

- Pagan Empire (2 cities)

- Kingdom of Dali (2 cities)


Norway and Scotland start at war with each other for the control of the Shetland Isles.
Scotland has bad relations with England and good ones with France.

The Kara-Khitai are in trouble, as they are facing the Mongol's invasion.

Srivijaya has horrible diplomatic relations with the Cholas Empire.

Swahili City States are quite underpowered but have plenty of room to grow.
Also, its existence will probably slow down the Ayubbid expansion in southern africa, as it used to happen in the previous games.

Kingdom of Dali and Pagan Empire have bad relations with the Mongols but are at peace with everyone.

The House of Hohestaufen is down to 5 cities.
Denmark is down to 3 cities.
England has a an extra city (Limerick, in Ireland) and is up to 5 cities.

 

[Traiano]

Gem 4.0 with 48 Civs has been uploaded!

Please let me know if you find any major bug.

Have fun

 

[Lean]

Thank you! I'm downloading the newest version now, and am extreamly eager to give it a go. The only problem is, I don't know which Civ to choose. Scotland, or Norway? Byzantines, or Turks? Endgland, or France? Oh well, I'll think of something, eventually.

 

[Traiano]

Thank you! I'm downloading the newest version now, and am extreamly eager to give it a go. The only problem is, I don't know which Civ to choose. Scotland, or Norway? Byzantines, or Turks? Endgland, or France? Oh well, I'll think of something, eventually.

In case it helps I added the difficulty coefficient for the new civs on the first post of this thread.

I also moved the Seljuk capital one square east, to leave more room to grow to both Seljuks and Byzantines.

If you play France, England or the Byzantines you probably will be a top civ, scorewise, since the beginning of the game.

With Scotland and Norway the game is definitely more challenging. But while Norway can expand in the north and avoid war, Scotland sooner than later has to attack England.

 

[Lean]

In the end, I chose Scotland. I'm about 5 turns in, and right now, everyting looks good. I was able to defeat most of the Norwegian Navy, and was even able to capture Stavanger. Then, using the caravel I had, I set out to discover the New World.

You were correct, as you usually are. I went to war with England early on, prefering to catch it off guard. Right now, I captured Lancaster. I'm going to try and hold the line there, and invade Ireland. Great update, once again.

 

[Adhesive86]

Just as I'd reached the modern era in my last game too! (as Poland) All the way in 1900- yes, i know i'm probably not very good but i like to win via domination.

Now i'm going to have to start again, as Scotland I'm sure.

 

[Lean]

An update from my game as Scotland:

It's 1366, and I have complete controll of Ireland, and have limited the English to only one city, Dorchester. I've also conqured all of Norway, and am now in the process of invading Sweeden.

The Iberian civs have capitulated to Yusuf, and all of Iberia is under his controll. The only cities that Isabella and Sancho have are in the New World. Madrid (On Cuba) and an unknown Portuguese city in Brazil.

Speaking of the New World, I've founded my first city, New Edinburgh where New York is. All in all, a great game, one of the best I've ever played. Kudos, once again, on this masterpeice.

 

[Gregg_Bandy]

The scroll doesn't show all the civs.