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This is an outstanding work, I never could do.
But it seems, that there is something wrong with the proportions of the turrets and guns. I hope I soon can post here the images of the Division of Naval-Identification And Characteristics Section for the Fuso - BB 5. I try to scan them from one of my books.Edited:
Here are the images attached. Picture 3 and 4 together show a 360 turn of the ship. If it is helpful for you, I could enlarge the scans. In that case please tell me how big you need the enlargement (twice, tripple and so on).
2nd Edit.: Images removed, as this great ship is now finished.
19Delta
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thanks for the pictures. I used a lot of photos as references during construction. One thing that I noticed was that each set of photos had minor differences. I want it to be as accurate as possible. If you could show a comparison between my fuso and those pictures, I will make the corrections. In the meantime, I will go back to the references and take a look at the turrets and try to make any corrections that I notice. Thanks again.
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If you look at the 0 degree and 180 degree pictures, it seems the turrets and guns are bigger than in your model. The images I posted were the official images of identification for the US Navy in WW2 about the Fuso. The pictures were taken by carefully constructed 1:600 waterline models as an all-purpose recognition manual.
Gary Childress
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It also sort of looks like the superstructure of the real Fuso is a little more prominent in proportions to the rest of the ship than in 19Delta's pics. It is a little difficult to tell from some of the angles.
Still 19Delta's model is an incredible piece of detailed work. I wish I could make something that detailed. 19Delta you are the model king! My little artillery pieces pale in comparison!
Still 19Delta's model is an incredible piece of detailed work. I wish I could make something that detailed. 19Delta you are the model king! My little artillery pieces pale in comparison!
19Delta
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Ok, I resized the turrets and guns. I don't really know what to do about the superstructure. As far as I can see, they all match up with the pictures that I have.
19Delta
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I messed with the superstructure some more. I made a few changes. I moved a few sections forward and a few sections back. I think that it looks a lot closer to the real thing now. I tried to make it a little bit taller, but I can't extend the sections upwards anymore without making it look funny.
19Delta
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How's this? You can't see it, but I also found the way to make the superstructure a little taller without making it look funny. I think that's all I will get out of that one though.
By the way, thanks for the help and the good comments, I really appreciate it. I know that there are some people on this forum that like to complain about a person's work becuase it isn't exactly as that person wanted it, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. You guys have been nice and appreciative while also being critical and respectful. Thanks for the objective views that really helped me make this model shine.
By the way, thanks for the help and the good comments, I really appreciate it. I know that there are some people on this forum that like to complain about a person's work becuase it isn't exactly as that person wanted it, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. You guys have been nice and appreciative while also being critical and respectful. Thanks for the objective views that really helped me make this model shine.
aksully
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19Delta...don't ruin it! I think you are spot on! Civinator is correct about the ONI 41-42 for any of you serious Civ Modelers out there that want to make Japanese Warships. I would go one further and recommend, Japanese Naval Vessels of World War Two as seen by U.S. Naval Intellegence by the Naval Institute Press. This includes not only all of the Warships but also Submarines, Auxillaries, and Landing Operations and Equipment.
A truely one stop shop as a reference. As an aside...you won't find the four fleet CVs lost at Midway! So one could say it is not totally comprehensive? But a tremendous resource as it is!
So 19Delta, Do I understand correctly that this will be your only WWII Warship? That would be a shame!
Sully
A truely one stop shop as a reference. As an aside...you won't find the four fleet CVs lost at Midway! So one could say it is not totally comprehensive? But a tremendous resource as it is!
So 19Delta, Do I understand correctly that this will be your only WWII Warship? That would be a shame!
Sully
19Delta
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it won't be the only ww2 warship that i make, but sometimes my particular job can be quite time consuming. i want to do more ships and armored vehicles. i'm even considering trying to sell some of my models on renderosity or a similar site. i'm starting to feel some of the pressure of the recession and i think it might be a way to make a little extra money. i did enjoy doing this model, even though it was a pain in the a$$ at some points. i know that there aren't many japanese battleships out there, so i decided to do this one as a start to try to correct that situation.
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19Delta, some extra money is always good. But I hope, we civers can have this beautiful ship, too. What´s about a new screene showing the complete ship as it is right now?
Concerning the ONI 41-42 for the precise modelling of Japanese ships of WW2, here are the complete dates of that book:
Japanese Naval Vessels of World War Two
as seen by U.S. Naval Intelligence
Published and distributed in The United States of America by the Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, Maryland 21402.
Library of Congress Catalog Card No. 86-63361
ISBN 0-87021-314-8
Originally published 1942-1944 by the U.S. Division of Naval Intelligence as
ONI 41-421, Index to All Japanese Naval Vessels;
ONI 41-42, Japanese Naval Vessels;
ONI 220J, Japanese Submarines,
ONI 225J, Japanese Landing Operations and Equipement
The U.S. Naval Intelligence only cared about the ships that existed for sinking, not about the ships, that were still been sunken as the four carriers desroyed at Midway. Conversely, a number of classes whose characteristics and appearances were only dimly known, like the battleships of the Yamato class, the Unryu class carriers, the command cruiser Oyodo, and the light cruisers of the Agano class, never received full-scale treatment, appearing only in the ONI 41-421 Index.
But I hope, we civers can have this beautiful ship, too. What´s about a new screene showing the complete ship as it is right now?Concerning the ONI 41-42 for the precise modelling of Japanese ships of WW2, here are the complete dates of that book:
Japanese Naval Vessels of World War Two
as seen by U.S. Naval Intelligence
Published and distributed in The United States of America by the Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, Maryland 21402.
Library of Congress Catalog Card No. 86-63361
ISBN 0-87021-314-8
Originally published 1942-1944 by the U.S. Division of Naval Intelligence as
ONI 41-421, Index to All Japanese Naval Vessels;
ONI 41-42, Japanese Naval Vessels;
ONI 220J, Japanese Submarines,
ONI 225J, Japanese Landing Operations and Equipement
The U.S. Naval Intelligence only cared about the ships that existed for sinking, not about the ships, that were still been sunken as the four carriers desroyed at Midway. Conversely, a number of classes whose characteristics and appearances were only dimly known, like the battleships of the Yamato class, the Unryu class carriers, the command cruiser Oyodo, and the light cruisers of the Agano class, never received full-scale treatment, appearing only in the ONI 41-421 Index.
19Delta
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19Delta, some extra money is always good.
Don't worry, I'm not going to withold this or any other work from the civ community, but I just might sell the model if I find a way to make a little bit of money from it. I've decided against selling on a site like renderosity, they all seem to want 50% straight off the top of your sale. I might try ebay, or craigslist one day, but I'm not looking to do anything soon. We'll see what the future holds. I'm not ready to post another picture yet. The next picture I post will be of the ship completely finished.
19Delta
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As far as modeling goes, the Fuso is complete. I think that she's ready for her shakedown cruise now. One more thing before I forget. This is the 1933 configuration. I will release a 1915 and 1944 configuration later.
I present to you the IJN Fuso
Thanks to wyrmshadow for the float planes and parts for the aa guns. I also want to thank firefox and topgun for giving me a float plane model, but I had already gotten the one that wyrmshadow gave me by the time I got yours, so I didn't use it.
I present to you the IJN Fuso
Thanks to wyrmshadow for the float planes and parts for the aa guns. I also want to thank firefox and topgun for giving me a float plane model, but I had already gotten the one that wyrmshadow gave me by the time I got yours, so I didn't use it.
Wyrmshadow
Deity
Quite good.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
That is one nice ship! 
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Unbelievably great work 19Delta! The proportions look perfect now! This ship ranks up with some of the best models I've seen out there!
19Delta
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I was trying to import from 3ds format to Bryce, and I get this message whenever I try to import the hull:
a file error has occured (i/o, bad media)
I'm not quite sure what it is. Everything imports in fine, and I can import the hull in obj format, problem is when it imports, it is all squashed down. Can anyone help me with this current problem. Is the hull too detailed maybe, or do I need to try to break the hull down and import it that way?
a file error has occured (i/o, bad media)
I'm not quite sure what it is. Everything imports in fine, and I can import the hull in obj format, problem is when it imports, it is all squashed down. Can anyone help me with this current problem. Is the hull too detailed maybe, or do I need to try to break the hull down and import it that way?
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