2011 MLB Thread
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he had a real quirky windup tooi told my buddy that he looks like pedro martinez
That is old fashion baseball. Love it.
I am EXTREMELY upset about this.Hey Owen,
Bad crash for Posey.
sophie
Break My Heart
On the bright side it looks like it's an ankle injury rather than a knee injury. It's bad, but it's not BAD bad.
Sandoval needs to hurry up and get better or we're going to be in for a world of hurt soon.
sophie
Break My Heart
I heard his leg was broken and out for the year. Bad news for giants and for my fantasy team here.
Yeah if that's the case it's going to be a bad day for Giants fans. We don't know what it is yet though. Although my roommate said when he was watching it that looking at Posey's face, that it might not be so bad (compared to the way he felt when he broke his ankle).
Posey done for the season. Giants also done for the season?
What a tragic play. Hindsight is 20 20 and it looks bad that Posey was a) not blocking the plate, really and b) did not have the ball and yet he was still ran into. The runner (Coghlan) must have thought he had the ball although a well executed slide would have avoided a tag. In the heat of the moment though it is natural instinct to go after the catcher but... it still really really sucks that that's how he goes out.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Well I think the main problem is that Buster was in the wrong position to try and make that play. His body just was not set properly to try and make the out and as a result of his body being out of position, it cause damage to his leg. What it absolutely critical to make that play, I would say no, so he should have got out of the way since he was not set up right for the play.
sophie
Break My Heart
Still not yet determined if he's out for the season. He's being taken to surgery, and he could be just out for 2 months. This could be the thing which gets Posey moved away from catcher. All is not lost if he comes back in before the end of the season, because the NL West is so pathetically weak that we'll still make the playoffs without Posey.
Yeah he was definitely not prepared to take that hit. The pictures of his leg when he is getting barreled over are ugly. Watching him immediately after is also pretty painful, he is writhing and clawing at the ground in what looks to be intense pain.
El Justo
Deity
i'll never forget seeing former cardinal OF ray lankford destroy darren daulton's knee in a home plate collision some time ago. scary stuff.
My theory was to ALWAYS go toward the ball a bit, catch it and deliver the blow myself as a catcher... I really punished some guys.
Of course sometimes it is just not possible. Once I was playing (for Eastern NC) in Alabama as a 16 yr old, playing in the regional Babe Ruth tourney. A team from Mobile had the bases loaded and one out- a groundball to our shortstop, he threw home but didn't have a solid grip and the ball bounced... just before that ungodly slow bounce reached my mitt- I got CREAMED- when I looked up I was near the back fence and the ball was laying right beside me
. They got that run, but the guy who hit me (and it really knocked my wind out) hurt his shoulder on the play and had to leave the game 
. And we won that game, but later lost in the championship to a flamethrower from Pensacola, Fla. Another time at my daughter's High School game one of our girls was going in home, the catcher bobbled the ball but our girl did not touch the plate on the slide, they scrambled around and over one another and our girl made it to the plate before she was 'tagged out'. The dang umpire call her out anyway for 'being too aggressive'
fighting to get to the plate and THREW her out of the game. Their catcher got to stay in the game even though the battle had been between our girl (5'3'' 115lbs) and their catcher (6' 220lbs).Now through High School at least they will call you out and out of the game for running over the catcher even if he/she has the ball and is blocking the plate
Lambert Simnel
One across
Hmm, having watched the clip now, Cousins was clearly going for the man to jar the ball loose, rather than simply trying for the plate. Perfectly legal given how things stand, of course, but it looks to me better suited to a game of rugby than to baseball. Given the nature of injuries that you can get from hits like that, I think it would be worth putting a rule change through saying that there is an obligation of care on behalf of the baserunner such that his principle goal must be the plate, not the man.
** drops head below parapet, expecting storm of (a) "that's not how it is, limey", and (b) "how would you ever adjudicate that" comments **
** drops head below parapet, expecting storm of (a) "that's not how it is, limey", and (b) "how would you ever adjudicate that" comments **
First place Red Sox! ![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
For those who were wondering, THIS is why the terrible start wasn't particularly worrying. Failure to make the playoffs from here would be a 'June-September problem', unrelated to the lousy April.
I will respectfully disagree. Until you expose your head again. Then... slings and arrows, baby; slings and arrows. If they didn't change it for Ray Fosse, i see no reason to change it now.
For those who were wondering, THIS is why the terrible start wasn't particularly worrying. Failure to make the playoffs from here would be a 'June-September problem', unrelated to the lousy April.I will respectfully disagree. Until you expose your head again. Then... slings and arrows, baby; slings and arrows. If they didn't change it for Ray Fosse, i see no reason to change it now.
I will always object to the continuing wussification of professional sports. For non-competitive/youth/college level leagues, sure. But when you're a professional you are there to perform at the utmost limits of human athletic ability for my hard earned coin.
Or in other words, "this is part of baseball" cliche response. (Which I seriously think, even though it is a cliche response.)
Or in other words, "this is part of baseball" cliche response. (Which I seriously think, even though it is a cliche response.)
Lambert Simnel
One across
Is this a reference to the 1970 All-Star game ? Are you genuinely old enough to remember seeing it, or is just a useful reference point which is dug out whenever the debate turns to injuries to catchers defending the plate?
Not really sure that failing to protect catchers properly in the past is that great an argument for failing to do so in the future.
Lambert Simnel
One across
I think there's a big difference between "wussification" and trying to lessen the risk of injuries like Posey's.
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