Lambert Simnel
One across
Heh. Second walk-off homer in two days for Pujols. Against the Cubbies. Man, life is good.
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El Justo
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albert heating up for sure. two walk offs in a row.
watching the phils games on tv this weekend, have to say that is one beautiful stadium in pittsburgh. anyone here ever been to PNC?
watching the phils games on tv this weekend, have to say that is one beautiful stadium in pittsburgh. anyone here ever been to PNC?
Backwards Logic
Emperor Palpatine
Got myself a pair of tickets to Philadelphia for the Phillies-Cubs game on Thursday and another pair for Phillies-Red Sox on the 30th. Looking forward to going!
It was fun while it lasted!
sophie
Break My Heart
While it wasn't a dirty play, I definitely think that Cousins had no business going after Posey. There was an open lane for an easy hook slide, and Posey didn't have the ball. I have no problem with hitting the catcher if he's blocking the plate, but Cousins had to veer left to hit Posey, and then he went back and touched the plate. I don't think that should be allowed in baseball. You aren't allowed to pull that crap on a First Baseman, and it should be the same with Catchers.
Lambert Simnel
One across
Big Z, he's a team player, eh ?
Because first base is a force. ಠ_ಠ
edit -- lots of buzz on tv and online about whether the rules needs to be changed or not. Does anybody here even know what the rules are? It was my understanding that they make no distinction between catcher and baseman, but i can't find anything here one way or the other,
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Halladay 2.39, Lee 2.51 and Hamels 2.55 are the top 3 in the major leagues for xFIP.
The fact that their xFip's are all lower than their actual ERAs could stem from a couple of reasons -- luck and the quality of the defense behind them. The Phils defense this year is probably below average, the league DER is .696 and the Phils are .689 presently.
The disparity between Lee's actual ERA and xFIP says that he's been hurt a lot by luck, and if that evens out, we should see his ERA decrease as the season progresses.
The fact that their xFip's are all lower than their actual ERAs could stem from a couple of reasons -- luck and the quality of the defense behind them. The Phils defense this year is probably below average, the league DER is .696 and the Phils are .689 presently.
The disparity between Lee's actual ERA and xFIP says that he's been hurt a lot by luck, and if that evens out, we should see his ERA decrease as the season progresses.
My understanding of the rules is that any basemen in the path of the base is fair game. If a player goes too far out of the basepath they will be out. I do not know if this rule is simply relaxed in the case of catchers and second baseman (hey they get hit too, remember?) and the circumstances of the play or if there is a different rule for them.
Basepaths also are malleable, for instance a guy legging out a double is supposed to go way out to the right of the 1st base path, beyond the dirt and the line, so that he gets a good line on going to second. Whereas if a guy hit a little dribbler down the first base line and ran out of the base path to the same extent he would be called out. This is why baseball is called by humans and not robots.
Basepaths also are malleable, for instance a guy legging out a double is supposed to go way out to the right of the 1st base path, beyond the dirt and the line, so that he gets a good line on going to second. Whereas if a guy hit a little dribbler down the first base line and ran out of the base path to the same extent he would be called out. This is why baseball is called by humans and not robots.
sophie
Break My Heart
If a first baseman gets in the basepath a runner is justified in knocking him out of the way, but a runner can't go out of his way to hit a first baseman. Even excluding force outs, why should home plate be any different? Why should a runner be able to go out of his way (miss the base even) to hit a guy who doesn't even have a ball?
Last night's Giants game demonstrates this perfectly. In the 8th Huff is coming around to tie the game. The play is close, a good throw to home plate, but Pudge left a lane open. Did Huff go out of his way to hit Pudge? Hell no! He hook slides in the open lane and scores the run without hitting anyone. Posey wasn't blocking the plate on that play, why didn't Cousins do the same as Huff?
Thanks ilram, that's essentially what i thought.
If you go out of your way to the point where you are out of reach of the base, you are out.
If you go out of your way to hit the first baseman who is somewhere between home and first, but far enough to one side that you have to leave the basepath to hit him, then you are out, and a freaking idiot who could have just ran past him and tried to beat the pitcher to the bag.
There are 3 places a catcher can be during a play at the plate:
1) Blocking the plate. High risk, high reward.
2) In front of the plate. Safe, but you leave home plate open.
3) In between. Not a good place to get caught.
Posey was caught in between. It happens. It's unfortunate. It was not dirty. When you are in between, you send mixed signals to the baserunner. He may not know where the ball is, where it's going, or when it'll get there. Much of that is gained from watching the catcher, so if he's in between, you gotta take a guess and commit to the decision you made.
If you go out of your way to the point where you are out of reach of the base, you are out.
If you go out of your way to hit the first baseman who is somewhere between home and first, but far enough to one side that you have to leave the basepath to hit him, then you are out, and a freaking idiot who could have just ran past him and tried to beat the pitcher to the bag.
There are 3 places a catcher can be during a play at the plate:
1) Blocking the plate. High risk, high reward.
2) In front of the plate. Safe, but you leave home plate open.
3) In between. Not a good place to get caught.
Posey was caught in between. It happens. It's unfortunate. It was not dirty. When you are in between, you send mixed signals to the baserunner. He may not know where the ball is, where it's going, or when it'll get there. Much of that is gained from watching the catcher, so if he's in between, you gotta take a guess and commit to the decision you made.
Also Cousin's is a young player, right? Huff might be experienced enough to realize when it is good to make a play for the plate rather than the catcher. Alternatively, Huff is an old dude who doesn't want to get hurt and thus avoids contact. I actually think that might be the better explanation, honestly. If I were his age I wouldn't want to run into Pudge Rodriguez with full pads either!
Pudge is one of the tougher guys in the game. He's what, 40 years old and still behind the dish?
Pudge is one of the tougher guys in the game. He's what, 40 years old and still behind the dish?
El Justo
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they better not change rules b/c of one collision. that is reactionary BS.
anyone check out Flash Gordon's son, Dee? he is a sprightly little thing
anyone check out Flash Gordon's son, Dee? he is a sprightly little thing
anyone check out Flash Gordon's son, Dee? he is a sprightly little thing
Man that makes me feel old...
El Justo
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i know, right i've got a few of his old man's rookie baseball cards from my childhood
El Justo
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that cutter has turned him into a different pitcher. remember the days when he relied almost exclusively on the fastball-changeup repertoire with a curve mixed in every so often? seems like ages ago. there've been some hints by local media that phils are trying to lock hamels up long term.
KMRblue1027
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They better give him the contract he deserves. He's been fantastic all year and Oswalt has been on the decline so the Phills need to keep him.
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