2K/Fraxis dont like poor people

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Umm, if you didn't have an internet connection...then you either:

A: Don't know about the game because you haven't frequented web pages.
OR
B: Read about it in your monthly gaming magazine. Price oohhh! around the same as a monthly charge for dial-up.

Solution : Stop buying the magazine, get dial-up.

Alternate solution: Get a better job by using your spare time to increase your educational level instead of playing video games ;)
 
Im here. I was just in shock how people dont care about their fellow man, and would rather cut them down. Its so sad.
 
If you can't afford something then don't buy it until you can. Stealing something because you couldn't afford it isn't acceptible for anything else, it's not acceptible for video games.
 
It would be nice for 2k to donate some computers and games to the poor.
 
Assuming that these "poor" people have enough money for a PC that can run a new 2010 game, and have the money to buy this game - Why wouldn't they have enough money to get internet?

As far as I could understand from what I have read, then internet is only required when activating the product (civ5), so if you can browse these forums, why cant you activate a game?

If we actually have to be "online" while playing civ5, then that is not only to the "poor" people's disadvantage - it is simply annoying for everyone as Steam isn't as reliable as one would like.
 
I see the OP's point. I'm sure there are people out there who are fairly poor, but do have some disposable income, who have non-horrible PCs but don't want to spend $20 or $30 a month on Internet. And if you consider that the Internet at $20/month (a fairly low rate), is $240 a year, it's not inconceivable that someone might decide that wasn't worth it but buying one or two fairly new games that would run on their PC (as Civ5 probably would), for less than half the cost, would be worth it. And it's not that bad not having the 'Net, especially if you aren't used to it. I didn't have it until 2006; I played plenty of non-top-end games during that time, including Civ4. I didn't miss the Net much when I didn't have it. Although I did miss not having the Civ4 patches that made it run much more efficiently once I heard about them.

There's also a good number of people who could afford Internet, but live in places where halfway decent Internet isn't available, and dial-up is the only option. Some of these people know there's faster options elsewhere, and feel dial-up is so slow as to not be worth getting. And they're kind of right, what with the image-laden Internet these days. On the other hand, a lot of them like the area where they live, and don't want to move just for Internet.

And sure, you could theoretically bring your computer to a Starbucks or Internet Cafe or wherever to activate it, but what if you have a desktop? Would you really want to do that? The poor probably are more likely to have comparitively inexpensive desktops, too, so you can't just assume that they have laptops they can bring to the library or wherever there is Internet.

Most of the people without Internet probably aren't browsing these forums, either. Or if they are, they probably are at a library. Which doesn't easily solve the problem if they have a desktop or the library doesn't have public-access WiFi.

It also blows if you are in the military and don't have consistent Net access. From what I've read, American military bases do a pretty good job of stocking new games, but that doesn't mean you have Net access all the time. So a soldier could buy Civ5, only to find out they couldn't play it for a couple weeks until they got Net access.

The way Microsoft confronted this was its phone activation option in Windows/Office. 2K probably doesn't already have a big call center, but that is one possible way to resolve this issue.
 
Thanks llol bless your heart. Also i was playing civ iv bioshock1 and 2 fallout 3 on a hp pentium 4 rig with 40 gig ide drive same with 512mb ram for bio 1 fallout and civ, then i got two 1 gig sticks from a friend. It had an intel onboard graphics that was 128mb shared with the ram. Then i also got a gt120 (rebranded card) that i put in for bioshock 2. I could blay on medium settings no aa or anything with the 128, high on some. Then high on all with the gt120 but some lag on my screens native res, but i could turn it down for better preformance, or do a slight oc. So horsehockey systems can play games. Min specs on most new games up to and including bioshock 2 are pentium 4 2 gigs ram. But i think civ 5 is more cpu oriented with all the calculations so i doubt that will hold. But u can get by on little.
 
Except they're round. :rolleyes:

Doesn't mean you can't arrange them in a hexagonal grid. Heck you can even do it with squares.
In fact it's well known that a hexagonal grid is the most efficient packing of same-sized circles in the plane.
:p
 
The internet i can get that i know of is comcast or verizon. Its 19.99 for six months, then goes up to 45-60. I think thats too much. I need to find these dial up places or cheaper service. I miss typing on a keyboard :(
 
The internet i can get that i know of is comcast or verizon. Its 19.99 for six months, then goes up to 45-60. I think thats too much. I need to find these dial up places or cheaper service. I miss typing on a keyboard :(

Leech off your neighbors WiFi.
 
In pretty much every part of the world (not just US), there is access to some form of dial-up.

If game only needs one time activation, such internet connection is more then sufficient (MP is whole another matter).

Of course, you also needs modem for your PC. But if someone lives in area with no access to any form of DSL, he probably already owns modem for dial-up, doesn't he.


Anyway, as long as there is no needs for constant on-line presence, like with Ubisoft DRM, dial-up will do job fine. Although, I'm not sure how will Steamworks handle patch distribution. Will it force user to download the patch only from computer the game is installed to and auto-update or not. Or is it possible to download patch from seperate machine (with good DSL line) and then patch later offline. If first, it could actually be a serious problem for someone with dial-up. Surely more then one time activation.
 
How does someone with an iPhone and data plan get off complaining about being too poor for home Internet?

Can't you just tether the iPhone and use it's 3G data plan? I know Blackberrys can be tethered, but maybe certain cellphone carriers have some way of blocking it.
 
I would be surprised if an iPhone cannot act as a modem. Even my LG Renoir can do that. It works like crap, but I can in fact use that to get internet on my pc. That would indeed work. Otherwise, pay a neighbor for teh interwebz. It seems reasonable enough to pass them a few bucks for their trouble...
DUDE! You have a girlfriend. Just sayin'.
Stop embarassing yourself. :mischief:
 
I would be surprised if an iPhone cannot act as a modem. Even my LG Renoir can do that. It works like crap, but I can in fact use that to get internet on my pc. That would indeed work. Otherwise, pay a neighbor for teh interwebz. It seems reasonable enough to pass them a few bucks for their trouble...
Stop embarassing yourself. :mischief:

Some providers unfortunately block the service. :sad:
 
What a bloody disgrace; company trying to make money not run as charity. What is the world coming to?
 
People who can afford a PC can afford an internet connection, usually.

People who can afford a PC to play Civ V CAN afford an internet connection.
 
Where I live, a typical internet contract would cost more than a PC that could run civ5.

I agree it's unlikely there are many people who can afford one and not the other but it's fair to say that internet access (as opposed to data quotas) is not particularly cheap, especially if you live in a more remote area.
 
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