3d Leaderhead Hitler WIP

[bernie14]

ok...this is very early, just in the sculpting phase, have not tried in game but so far the animations work in granny viewer....will use selaisse animations...I KNOW.....I WOULD REALLY WANT HIM TO DO THE HAND FLIP GESTURE...but changing LH animations is not easy....

all i have so far is the modded gr2/blend and some textures....suggestions for music, background, dialogue etc.... and HELP putting together the nazi civ would be greatly appreciated....

I would CERTAINLY suggest that we follow Ekmek's and TPangolin's australia civ as a template, since it all seems to work very well....(PLEASE FOLLOW EKMEK"S THREAD HERE)

in addition, we can also talk about any other 3D LH testing and questions...

to actually follow from the above noted thread, I did try the Leader_Masked and Leader_Transparency materials, as well as the leader_skin for the hair, but none of them worked...

 

[RawSasquatch]

I can tell that this is going to be spectacular in every possible way, it looks awesome!

As for suggestions, music: you can never go wrong with der Königgrätzer Marsch, for Peace, at least. Background is a little trickier, though I would start with the Reichstag (good luck finding WW2-era pictures/paintings of it in color, not destroyed, and not on fire, though), or perhaps the Berghof or the Eagle's Nest.

 

[Krajzen]

When I have seen the name of this thread I laughed so hard. When I have seen 3d Hitler I laughed even more - this is awesome Congratulations

(I laughed because of all great caring leaders of all mod civilizations the first non - Ekmek 3d leader is going to be Adolf Hitler the Mass Murderer )

It would be 10/10 if Hitler did The Gesture and used voice taken from his speeches I hope it wouldn't be considered as offensive by majority of players

Good luck


Now it would be even more awesome if someone created Stalin 3d model, although I would probably be too scared to play against him (Stalin is IMHO the most terrifying man in the entire history of all mankind)

 

[Ekmek]

Great start Bernie!

In a few weeks I'll have time to mess around with this and look at doing a custom animation. I've done a few for civ4 (even fixing the Civ4 HItler animation). Just the hard part is getting every bone to move naturally (eye blinks, tilt of head, everything to make it lifelife).


EDIT: For STalin I'm thinking we do an experiment to import the first Civ4 leader with Civ4 animations. Probably need to use bismarck's camera to get the waist up view.

 

[bernie14]

Great start Bernie!

In a few weeks I'll have time to mess around with this and look at doing a custom animation. I've done a few for civ4 (even fixing the Civ4 HItler animation). Just the hard part is getting every bone to move naturally (eye blinks, tilt of head, everything to make it lifelife).


EDIT: For STalin I'm thinking we do an experiment to import the first Civ4 leader with Civ4 animations. Probably need to use bismarck's camera to get the waist up view.

sounds great!...I am very rusty with the civ4 LH custom animations...I only did kennedy giving the finger and recall the process was very tedious....iirc, the bones kept rotating in the opposite directions unless the interval changes in movements were very small....you read my mind on stalin...I was thinking the same thing....but if needed, slapping some legs on him would not seem too hard...though, if you use civ4 animations, they would have to be static

 

[bernie14]

I can tell that this is going to be spectacular in every possible way, it looks awesome!

As for suggestions, music: you can never go wrong with der Königgrätzer Marsch, for Peace, at least. Background is a little trickier, though I would start with the (good luck finding WW2-era pictures/paintings of it in color, not destroyed, and not on fire, though), or perhaps the Berghof or the Eagle's Nest.

thanks....I had a nice concept thought for the Reichstag, hitler at the podium, with the big eagle behind and shadowy Nazis in the chairs but the selaisse animations moves back and forth, I cant pit him behind the podium......the room with the big window in the berghof might be the best choice, if I stick with selaisse's lights and background scheme....I have seen some footage of hitler on a balcony dancing about, entertaining guests....don't know if that was at berghof or eagles nest but it is a possibility....

if anyone finds any good pics/other ideas for background, it would be greatly appreciated.....

 

[Krajzen]

EDIT: For STalin I'm thinking we do an experiment to import the first Civ4 leader with Civ4 animations. Probably need to use bismarck's camera to get the waist up view.

Jesus Christ, Stalin 3d model, Satan himself is coming to me.

Obviously I will download him immediately just to destroy his totalitarian regime

 

[Ekmek]

thanks....I had a nice concept thought for the Reichstag, hitler at the podium, with the big eagle behind and shadowy Nazis in the chairs but the selaisse animations moves back and forth, I cant pit him behind the podium......the room with the big window in the berghof might be the best choice, if I stick with selaisse's lights and background scheme....I have seen some footage of hitler on a balcony dancing about, entertaining guests....don't know if that was at berghof or eagles nest but it is a possibility....

if anyone finds any good pics/other ideas for background, it would be greatly appreciated.....

I wonder if we use Montezuma's camera that it would work better for a podium.

A nice thing about civ5 leaders is that there eyes/head always face the camera. So even when we switch camera angles they face the right way.

 

[Ekmek]

I'm going to set up a mod info file for JFD's nazi germany:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=474393

 

[JFD]

I'm going to set up a mod info file for JFD's nazi germany:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=474393

Let me know if you need any help.

 

[Ekmek]

we might have to change the icon and DoM to match the leaderhead at some point

 

[Wodhann]

A nice thing about civ5 leaders is that there eyes/head always face the camera. So even when we switch camera angles they face the right way.

Really? I wonder how they did that. Are you saying just the head and eyes face the camera or the whole body?

I wonder if the cameras are bone controlled?

 

[Ekmek]

they rotate some how. I first noticed it messing with Haile and changing it to Isabella, Bismarck, and other cameras. I havent tried it but if you give Napoleon Alex's camera I think the horse will change poition too.

I wonder if the camera is just an animation file. Probaby if we try elizabeth's camera and see what the intro does it would be clearer (get rid of the whole zoom thing) or elizabeth without her camera.

 

[Wodhann]

I noticed while editing attila that there's a bone called camera (or something like that), and it's more or less towards the position that the actual attila camera is (in relation to attila).

I wonder if when doing custom animations, you can actually change that bone and pick the position of the camera that you want. That needs to be tested still though.

 

[Ekmek]

worth a look. I dont think the other ones have that bone. may also be why attila has weird rotated bones on import.

 

[bernie14]

ok...here is some updated work....still in the initial stages but selassie's animations are working well....i have him on selassie camera, lights and BG...i still need to do alot of texture work and sculpting...I have not been able to get ANY material the uses the OPAC texture to work...

I am going to include the 3d files i am working on at this time so that others can play....i'm using JDF's mod as the test....I just put in the 3d hitler file at the same level as the other files ("art", "audio", "core"...etc), deleted his mod info and hitler scene....made my own "mod" using all of JDF's files.... seems to be working, for the 3DLH at least....

as always...help and critique greatly appreciated

 

[Ekmek]

That's some seriously good work there. I downloaded the file. Is there anything you want me to work on with it?

 

[Wodhann]

It's really weird to see hitler made in a non-demonizing way. It's like I'm so used to see hitler done "evil"/psycho that when I see him done otherwise it looks "off", even though it is more realistic.

This seems great so far.

 

[JFD]

Ieleted his mod info and hitler scene....made my own "mod" using all of JDF's files.... seems to be working, for the 3DLH at least....

as always...help and critique greatly appreciated

Looking excellent. Are you otherwise having some trouble with the mod files?

 

[bernie14]

That's some seriously good work there. I downloaded the file. Is there anything you want me to work on with it?

the rig seems to be working....the BG is definitively wrong...needs to be worked on....along with a different BG, other lights or cameras might improve the scene...any other suggestions????

It's really weird to see hitler made in a non-demonizing way. It's like I'm so used to see hitler done "evil"/psycho that when I see him done otherwise it looks "off", even though it is more realistic.This seems great so far.

don't know if it is more realistic ...i think he needs to be fattened up a bit..also the selassie animations may be giving him a little "sad puppy" like face....especially around the eyes...I may try to "mean" those up a bit....

Looking excellent. Are you otherwise having some trouble with the mod files?

your mod files are great...i like the music alot....don't know if we can get any of our german friends to do some voice overs for the dialogue...