5 grams - SQUALL

True on libraries.
I was just hoping corruption will significantly decrease in most cities after we build FP, that's why i switched to libraries.
I also see us as commies in future where libraries will actually work in all cities.

But if they get switched back to temples it is fine for me.
 
Got it.

Cold War and mighty scientists, sounds like the sixties.
 
Started FP in Ta-Tu due in 16. If I can pull a leader in less than ten will rush it in Delhi and switch Ta-Tu to a library.

Swapped a lot of the really corrupt towns to settlers if they had the population. We need to fill in the Indian sub-continent before somebody else does, like the Arabs, the Koreans and the French.

The Spanish send a LB out of Pampalona, not good.

Next thing that happens is Arabs demand 32g. They get it as I don't need to be at war with them.

The French finish Leonardo's.

The Koreans switch to Copernicus and the Arabs and the Spanish.

Erdnet gets away from me and riots....

I can mortgage the economy to buy Engineering or Feudalism and since Engineering gets us bigger rock throwers do the deal with Korea for 174g+20gpt. Then realize I must be taking lessons from AdmK in idiocy as we are the Mongols, not the Ottomans and Feudalism is the shortest path to Keshiks. :wallbash:

I can also buy another slave from Korea for 110g. We are now down to 6g in the treasury but income is still 45gpt and we have lots of room in the military budget.

In 460 lose a horseman and retreat another trying to take Pampalona and another one trying to kill the LB threatening Bayanhonger.

The French LB kills the surviving horse at Pamaplona but he is now dead meat and there are additional horsemen ariving to assault the city.

In 470 wipe out another Zhou camp and collect 25g then wipe out some Toltecs with a spear from Delhi.

And start the march on Santander.

And Kazan riots.

In 490 Pampalona the two spears and longbow retreat our four horsemen. One spear is killed however. And our forces arrive at the gates of Santander.

The Spanish build Sistine Chapel.

In 500 Santander takes three hits from three cats but the wounded defenders kill two elite swords and wound a third. A fourth 3hp elite kills the wounded spear but no promotion.

Wipe out another barb camp for 25g.

Wounded French longbow attacks sword and cat stack, kills the wounded elite and captures the cats.

Koreans finish Copernicus.

In 510 two elite swords are wiped out at Santander without scratching the spear defending. Kill a longbow at Pampalona and promote a horseman.

Isabella comes calling and will give up Santander for peace. Too bad. There is another force moving into position.

In 520 finally kill the now elite spear defending Pampalona.

In 530 defeat a Spanish longbow on the plains at Zaragoza and Ogodei is spawned. Head him to Delhi to rush the FP and Ta-Tu switches to a library.

In 540 rush the FP in Delhi. A trade route is now open with the Arabs..and we have lots of stuff to sell them.

First an embassy....then I can get Wines and Feudalism for Incense, Dyes, a World Map 142g+49gpt. Since that gets us closer to Keshiks and lets me reduce the entertainment tax go for the deal. Then buy his World Map for 11gpt. Then get Joan's World Map and Gems for Incense and 13gpt.

Forbidden Palace goes up in Delhi in 540.

FP bumps our income from 30gpt to 45gpt a verry nice increase.

In 450 burned Pampalona to the ground but failed to take Santander.

Decide to play on one more turn just to get shut of the Spanish on the island and Santander falls into our hands in 560.

Looking at the map it appears that Spain is a two city nation, having suffered in the wars from Arabia and France. Korea is down to four cities, one of them at the very tip of our island.

We have 10 turns to go on a deal with Korea, after that expires we may want a little war with them, after buying Chivalry from somebody and building some Keshiks to get our GA started? Or use the war with Korea to get a discount on Chivalry? They are our next target after Spain anyway.

I think I founded four towns and captured one and there is another settler wandering to the south. We have a couple more spots to fill in in the north and three or so int hte south. The barabrians have gone from being a nuisnace to being a great source of cash as busting camps put at least 150g in the treasury.

We are in a tough position technically but if we can acquire Chivalry and build some Keshiks, then get a GA going we should be able to at least pull even or a little better in tech, which will give us some brokering opportunities. Right now we are the ignorant but are at least equal in territory to the Arab and have 36 cities on the ground to his 26.

Korea is our next target after Spain and it is unlikely that Isabella's reign will end before our deal with Korea expires.

Afraid I tied your hands el_filet but I felt I needed to get us on the road to Chivalry and better artillery.
Roster check:

el filet -> up
bigfoot -> on deck
grahamiam
dmanakho
bede
gozpel -> autoskip
 
OK, I will take it. So we got our FP after all! :goodjob: I am glad we were able to get it in place before triggering our GA.
 
Pre-turn status check – 560AD:
- Have 97G, +45gpt, research is turned off.
- Military = 1 settler, 16 workers, 12 slaves, 1 warrior, 4 archers, 15 spears, 4 swords, 13 horses, 3 cats, 3 trebs.; we are rated weak vs. France and the Arabs, strong vs. Spain and Korea.
- At war with Spain (MA with France); at peace with all others.

- MM for some addt’l gold; hire a lone scientist to start researching Invention.

<IBT: Karakorum horse => horse; Ta-Tu horse => horse; Tabriz MDI => MDI; Arabs are building Bachs.>

Turn 1 570AD:
- Move settler towards city site (plains E. of Delhi).
- Move some horses into position to pop barb camp in NE.
- Trade Joan spices, WM and 4gpt for Chivalry and 16G; change some builds to keshiks.
- Rush temple in Punjab.

<IBT: Almarikh settler => keshik; Darhan harbor => worker; Punjab temple => settler.>

Turn 2 580AD:
- Pop barb hut in NE.

<IBT: Dalandz. settler => keshik; Ondorhaan worker => worker.>

Turn 3 590AD:
- zzz
<IBT: Ulaanbaator rax => keshik; Darhan worker => galley.>

Turn 4 600AD:
- Founded Mandalgovi.

<IBT: Karakorum keshik => keshik; Baruun-Urt library => duct; Saynshand worker => worker; Spain is building JS Bachs.>

Turn 5 610AD:
- Choybalsan is built.

<IBT: Ta-Tu keshik => keshik; Chittagong harbor => galley.>

Turn 6 620AD:
- zzz

<IBT: Arabs land a settler pair in NE on the spot I was going to claim next turn; Tabriz keshik => keshik; Ulaangom CH => duct; Arabs are building Magellans.>

Turn 7 630AD:
- zzz

<IBT: Almarikh keshik => keshik; Arab settler pair moves next to the volcano instead of building on the spot.>

Turn 8 640AD:
- Tsetesrleg is built in NE.

<IBT: Krarkorum keshik => keshik.>

Turn 9 650AD: zzz

Stopped here to even out the turn-sets. Not a very exciting set of turns, but at least we are starting to crank out some keshiks now. Mostly I wanted to continue filling out our landmass and to build up some gold. The Arabs will probably pay a good price for spices if we can claim the second one by Zaragosa. Of course, it may be better to go to war with them and try to extract a few techs for peace; that should be doable once we have some more keshiks built. Possibly we could get France and Arabia to fight each other in the bargain.

5grams_650AD(north).jpg

grams_650AD(south).jpg


Roster:
bigfoot -> just played
el filet -> up (swapped with bigfoot)
grahamiam -> on deck
dmanakho
bede
gozpel -> autoskip
 
played a few turns:

650 AD (0):
switch tabriz&dalandzadgad to granary
koreans are reduced to OCC, but arabs got only one unit there, will wait to get a tech from them
won't do any gpt with france, i doubt spain and korea survive next 20

IBT:
france&arabia allie against korea
arabs repelled at korean capitol, ansar joins assault
darhan: galley->worker
choyr: court->duct
spanish start bach :confused:

660 AD (1):
net 25g

IBT:
joan wants TM&37g...hrmpf...no->backs down
delhi: market->granary
ta-tu: keshik->keshik
kazan: court->pike
karachi: settler->worker
erdenet: lib->keshik

notes:
intend to wait with trading (see no unit next to korean capital, ansar killed defender last turn and went away), use money to update some horses. will prepare for attack on france, but i'm not sure attack will happen during my turns.
 
...
IBT:
korea&arabia sign peace
darhan: worker->market
daland..: granary->keshik

680 AD (3):
upgrade 2 horses

IBT:
boot from korea
karakorum: keshik->keshik
tabriz: granary->keshik
ondorhaan: worker->worker

690 AD (4):
up science

IBT:
almarikh: keshik->keshik
ulaanbaatar: keshik->keshik
uliastay: settler->court
hovd: court->duct
arabs start smith

IBT:
valencia: harbor->lib
saynshand: worker->treb
arabs start newton

710 AD (6):
found Batshireet->harbor

IBT:
ta-tu: keshik->keshik
naylah: settler->worker

IBT:
karakorum: keshik->pike
sugar: court->duct
baruun-urt: duct->market
french start smith

730 AD (8):
french stand next to korean capital
buy theology for 32gpt+8g
buy education for 36gpt
buy invention for 9gpt+111g


IBT:
french destroy koreans :)
tabriz: keshik->uni
tsetserleg: worker->worker

740 AD (9):
reneogitiate deal with abu: we get wines&banking for incese, dyes 54gpt+15g
science on gunpowder@50
switch core to banks

IBT:
spanish destroyed by french
delhi: granary->bank
zaragoza: settler->lib
french start newton


notes:
2 settlers unmoved
1 treaty with france left, but we need to declare (haven't done yet, but i guess NOw is more important then LK rule 3))
units to attack french holdings on our continent fortified in cities (atlay, suger, tabriz, choy, santander & punjab)
SE badly defended
 
i am next but i suggest dman and i switch, or we'll hold up 2 games :)

We must declare on the French NOW, as that is the prevailing rule. Looks like we have a monster on our hands.

Roster:
bigfoot
el filet -> just played
grahamiam -> up, but looking for a swap
dmanakho -> up (swapped with grahamiam?)
bede
gozpel -> autoskip
 
I can do swap but tomorrow is the earliest date i can play if not friday.
I have it if you okay with that.
 
dmanakho said:
I can do swap but tomorrow is the earliest date i can play if not friday.
I have it if you okay with that.
Let's see tomorrow, but this is probably fine.

Let's try to land some pillaging pikes or muskets onto the French shore and start to slow them down.

edit: Got it
 
Preflight check: Declare on France. Buy Furs from Arabia for Spices and 372g. Bump up research to get Guns in 6T vs 7T.
@ Cherebourg: Keshik redlines but dies to spear, promoting it (2/4); Keshik kills reg spear and we enter our GA!; Keshik kills 2/4 spear and we take the town.
Capture 2 workers near Ta-Tu
@ Ameins: Keshik redlines but dies to spear (1/3); Keshik kills spear(4/4); keshik kills redlined spear and we raze the town for 2 more workers
@ Bayonne: Keshik kills spear and promotes (4/5); Keshik redlines but dies to spear

Guns in 4T

T1: 760AD Found New Karakorum -> temple; Found New Ta-Tu
@ Bayonne: 4/5 Keshik retreats

IBT: Arabs complete Magellans

T2: 770AD @ Bayonne: Keshik kills spear (3/4); Keshik kills spear (4/4) and we raze the town + sink a caravel.

IBT: France is building Smiths and Newton’s

T3: 780AD moving

IBT: New Ta-Tu is razed by 2 French warriors (lost elite archer defending)
Gunpowder -> Astronomy (4T, +5gpt)
Arabs building Shake’s

T4: 790AD French are holding our Salt in Pointiers. Move up our stack to take it.
@ Strasburg: elite sword kills spear (4/5); elite sword dies to spear (2/3); elite horse retreats, elite horse dies (2/4)

IBT: Arabs demand 24g and TM

T5: 800AD @ Poitiers: bombard: Keshik kills redlined musketeer; keshik kills spear; elite horseman kills LB (3/5) and we raze the town + get another worker.
Found Salty Sands to claim the saltpeter.

IBT: France drops off 3 knights near Calcutta

T6: 810AD cats go 1 for 2 on the knights; Keshik kills vet knight (3/4); Keshik kills vet knight (1/4); Keshik kills ¾ knight (2/4) and the stack is clear.

T7: 820AD Moving into position for Strasbourg.
IBT: Lose a horseman to a barb warrior

Astronomy -> Chemistry (4T, +10gpt)

T8: 830AD @ Strasburg: Kashek kills vet spear; Kashek kills spear; horseman kills warrior (2/4) and we take the town

T9: 840AD nada

IBT: notice that the Arab worker is definitely Industrial
French building Shake’s, complete Bach’s, Arabs cascade to Smith’s

T10: 850AD Found Pimlico. Setting up elites for the last 2 French towns on our landmass.

Galley moving N, a caravel is being built in the NE. Need to load a couple muskets into them and start pillaging France. Lots of mountains there for cover.

5grams-850AD.jpg



Roster:
gozpel -> autoskip
bigfoot
grahamiam
dmanakho -> UP
bede -> on deck
el filet
 
IBT: notice that the Arab worker is definitely modern.
lurker's comment: Do you mean industrial? I can't believe an AI is modern at 850AD.
 
Ok, I have it..
But there is another game i have to play before this one and that one RaR so it will take extra time and i may not have time to get to this one until tuesday...
@Bede: Do you want to swap? if not i will definetely play by tuesday night GMT-5.
 
Should be able to play tomorrow, or the latest Tuesday so you can pick up Tuesday night,

So, got it!
 
Playing now: Any reason not to sign an alliance with the Arabs against the French?

I can think of a good one: it will make our per turn payments good for something with the Arabs for a while anyway.
 
we need to be careful about making them too strong as they are already in the IA. right now, we can do a tech every 4T, so I don't really see the need to spend anything for techs, and we can manage the lux slider ok. if, after the GA, we need to start buying again, then maybe.
 
S'right.

Now for the onslaught of the barbarians.
 
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