5 grams - SQUALL

[el_filet]

1500 BC (0):
only buildings we have are rax/walls..tempted to switch to granary somewhere - don't
negative income running, let it be until we meet somebody.
think about using archer stack for camp cleaning, but don't
it appears ulaanbaatar is in danger, move bonkers into city

IBT:
barely defeat barb horse
more coming from E
2 indian warriors moving N

1475 BC (1):
lose archer killing barb horse

IBT:
pillager defeats indian archer

1450 BC (2):
pillage
hire scientist in ta-tu
move archers on road to enable attack next turn

IBT:
almarik: archer->spear

1425 BC (3):
kill barb
lose 2 archers trying to get rid of the indian spear on spices, promote him
retreat injured spear, in between 3 indian units

IBT:
spear kills warrior before dying
karakorum: archer->archer

1400 BC (4):
kill the spear
kill barb
up science

IBT:
ta-tu: archer->archer
tabriz: archer->spear
paris finishes colossus

1375 BC (5):
get promotion for killing barb
switch almarikh to settler, move scientist

IBT:
kazan: rax->spear

1350 BC (6):
kill 2 ind spear

IBT:
indian archers don't attack our spear on hill

1325 BC (7):
pillage

IBT:
karakorum: archer->settler
tabriz: warrior (mistimed forest chop, better then getting nothing for the shields)->spear
ulaanbaatar: spear->archer

1300 BC (8):
not much

IBT:
math->writing@min
ta-tu: archer->cat
almarikh: settler->granary

1275 BC (9):
switch some builds to cats
pillage

IBT:
barb shows up

1250 BC (10):
worker turns


notes:
thought about building a scout to explore, but didn't dare with all the barbs
archer stack ready (unmoved, ta-tu). suggest to move S along with unmoved worker
i'd rather build swords and use the money for research (iron not connected, 4 warriors, 2 vet). treasury is almost empty after going full for math.
sent settler S
pillager behind river
puny (10-4), cats will hopefully help

 

[grahamiam]

looks good, have we met anyone besides the indians?

Roster:
gozpel -> UP
bigfoot -> on deck
grahamiam
dmanakho
bede
el filet

 

[el_filet]

not yet. we have some warriors we could use to explore, i ended up needing them as MP. contacts are good now, i should have pushed exploring.

 

[gozpel]

I've got it.

 

[gozpel]

Pre-turn - I want the settler in Ta-Tu on the hill S of town. An archer goes to the hill SW and find an indian archer and warrior.

1225bc - We lose an archer and kill a warrior IT. Defend against barbhorse.

Kill the archer and move stuff down to the hill.

1200bc - Tabriz pult -> archer.

1175bc - Karakorum settler -> archer.
Ta-Tu pult -> pult.
Kazan spear -> archer.

Hovd founded -> walls.

Spear in India do some pillaging.

Our new settler goes to the coast SW, we want curraghs.

Dyes are connected btw.

A warrior and a archer goes barbhunting NW.

1150bc - Nothing.

1125bc - Archer takes out barbcamp SW of capitol. Another archer NW kill barbhorse.

6 archers goes towards Bangalore.

1100bc - Defend against indian archer IT. Defend against barbhorse.

Darhan founded -> curragh.

1075bc - Karakorum archer -> archer.
Ta-Tu spear -> worker.

We get the FP-message.

A new archer goes barbhunting E.

Assault on Bangalore:
archer take off 2 hp from reg spear and dies.
archer kills reg spear.
elite kills 1hp spear and we autoraze the town, gaining 2 slaves.

Bonkers kills reg archer, another one shows up. That's all my warmongering I think

1050bc - We exchange archers IT.

1025bc - Pillaging spear defends against one archer, dies to the second.

Ta-Tu worker -> archer.
Tabriz archer -> archer.

1000bc - Kazan archer -> settler.
Almarikh granary -> settler.

Kill an archer and found that India planted a town SE of Ta-Tu.

Pop GH NW and get 50g.

We need to start expanding east, so we can get those nice incense.

I also decided against scouts, too many barbs around.

 

[gozpel]

Just some imaginary dots, it can all be changed when we know more about the terrain.

 

[Bigfoot]

Got it. I will look at the save tonight, but I may not get to play until tomorrow. Looks like we are in good shape on this one. I would have expected to find another civ somewhere on a landmass this size (perhaps in the fog to the east?) so settling on or near Gozpel's red dots makes sense to me.

Agree with the need for curraghs and contacts ASAP. I am a little bit surprised to see we are still building archers, I will look to get the iron connected to pump out some swords.

 

[Bigfoot]

5 Grams – 1000BC

Pre-turn:
- 8 cities, 6 workers, 2 slaves, 4 warriors, 10 archers, 7 spears, 2 cats. Rated average vs. India.
- 227 G with +19 gpt; Writing in 39 turns.
- Cities look good; MM Almarikh to get settler 2 turns sooner.

<IBT: lone Indian archer approaches; Karakorum archer => spear.>

Turn 1 975BC:
- Moving some units around; we have units on ‘go to’ orders?

<IBT: nothing.>

Turn 2 950BC:
- Set up a strongpoint on hill 2 SE of Hovd.
- Do some barb suppression in NW and NE.
- Workers move to hook up iron.

<IBT: Ta-Tu archer => archer; Ulaanbaatar cat => worker; Hovd wall => rax.>

Turn 3 925BC:
- Kill the archer by Hovd.

<IBT: Archer kills barb horse; Indians are building Pyramids; 6 archers approach Hovd.>

Turn 4 900BC:
- Disperse barb camp for 25 G.
- Kill 2 archers outside Hovd.

<IBT: Indians want peace (too bad Gandhi, your curry is cooked); we lose an archer; Karakorum spear => archer.>

Turn 5 875BC:
- Our archer kills archer and promotes to elite.
- Move force towards the city in the fog SE of Hovd.

<IBT: Iron is connected now; Almarikh settler => sword.>

Turn 6 850BC:
- Upgrade a warrior to sword & change 3 other builds to swords.
- Kill 3 more archers by Hovd (spear covers archer who had to move out).
- Lux. to 20% to prevent riots in Ta Tu (size 5).

<IBT: Bizarre… 2 archers move away and leave redlined one exposed.>

Turn 7 825BC:
- 2/4 Bonkers kills ¼ archer flawlessly.
- Upgrade another warrior to sword.
- Lux. back to 0%.

<IBT: Spear / archer pair approaches Hovd; Ta-Tu sword => sword; Ulaanbaatar worker => settler.>

Turn 8 800BC:
- Kill archer and spear by Hovd.
- Change Karakorum from sword to spear (due in 1) so its garrison can escort settler to the spot E-E-NE from Karakorum.
- Our mini-SOD moves by Lahore (3/3 spear showing).

<IBT: 2 archers die attacking our force by Lahore; Karakorum riots (doh!); Tabriz sword => sword; Arabs built Oracle.>

Turn 9 775BC:
- More barb suppression in NE.
- Kill 2 spears and take Lahore (auto-razed), get 1 G and a slave.

<IBT: Karakorum spear => sword; Kazan settler => settler; Darhan curragh => worker.>

Turn 10 750BC:
- Sword kills a spear and promotes to elite.
- Archer in NE dies attacking barb warrior.
- Dalandzadgad built (starts worker).

India is on the ropes, although they still have a fair number of cities left. I would put the next city on the spot 3S of Dalandz. for another curragh. The mini SOD by the ruins of Lahore are resting on the mountaintop before probing farther south. We have a pretty good force assembled by Hovd, but the jungle blocks our cats; I would put a city 3S of Hovd as our bridge to Bombay and other points S.

Roster:
gozpel
bigfoot
grahamiam -> UP
dmanakho -> on deck
bede
el filet

 

[dmanakho]

nice turns.
It's hard to believe, but it is 750BC and we still haven't met nobody but india on a small map

 

[el_filet]

things seem to go well

i suggest we concentrate on filling our lands more then faster advancing on india, unless you consider this as against the NOW rules.

 

[Bigfoot]

I think we can do both. Once we have a path through the jungle our combined swords/archers/cats should be able to steamroll the remaining Indian cities without much difficulty. I don't know if they lack horses and iron, but so far all they have thrown at us are archers and spears. They are building the Pyramids too, so likely their best city isn't even producing military.

 

[grahamiam]

Preflight check: Looks good. Bump up research to chop 12T off writing. MM between Almarikh and Karak to get sword in 1T vs 2T

IBT: Almarikh sword -> sword

T1: 730BC MM Ulaanbaatar to speed up settler

T2: 710BC In the jungles: elite archer kills Indian warrior (3/5)

IBT: Karakorum sword -> sword

T3: 690BC Reg sword kills barbcamp, promotes (3/4) and collects 25g.

IBT: vet sword dies to conscript barb warrior (1/2)

T4: 670BC Darhan worker -> worker

T5: 650BC @Bombay: Sword kills spear (2/4) and we raze the town, netting 1g;
On our healing mountain: elite archer kills reg archer (5/5)

On the barb front: ¾ sword kills ½ barb and promotes (3/5), sees another barb camp.

IBT: Almarikh sword -> settler

T6: 630BC Promote another archer to elite killing a reg archer on India’s east coast
Switch Hovd to Curragh from barracks as this war is really going too easy and we need to meet more people

IBT: Ta-Tu settler -> sword; Tabriz sword -> sword

T7: 610BC Found Choy in the jungle gap. Cats redline a nearby spear; elite archer kills it.
On India’s east coast: elite archer kills reg archer (3/5) and now I finally see the town’s name, Karachi.
Outskirts of Dehli: sword kills archer (3/4); elite archer kills archer (5/5)

IBT: see a blue galley ; Karakorum sword -> sword; Hovd curragh -> curragh

T8: 590BC Meet Spain, they are Medivel.

IBT: Ulaanbaatar settler -> settler (glad I don’t have to type that again)
Spanish complete ToA

T9: 570BC Found Erdenet -> worker
Elite Sword kills reg archer (3/5)
Near Dehli: Elite archer kills reg archer (4/5)

IBT: Almarikh settler -> sword; Darhan worker -> worker; Dalandzadgad worker -> barracks

T10: 550BC moving. 1 settler is in position. Another settler is waiting in Almarikh, but suggest he goes to claim the incense.

We are very far behind everyone, as it looks like both India and Spain are up Currency + Construction + everything else. When we get Writing, we’ll have our choice of tech’s to buy if any are sellable.

Roster:
gozpel
bigfoot
grahamiam
dmanakho -> UP
bede -> on deck
el filet

 

[grahamiam]

dman, please post a got it. otherwise, bede can take it. whoever posts 1st can play

 

[dmanakho]

Oh my... I didnt realise i was up in this game.
Sorry about that.
Will play tonight

 

[dmanakho]

Pre-turn: sending settler towards incense.

IBT. Writing comes. Spain knows everything but CoL.
I bought wheel for 152gold.

T1. 530BC. i heard about barbarian uprising. Yep, that's Spain entered MA.
We are far behind in tech at the moment. GL would help greatly, but i don't think we have a chance to get it. We have horses though, but not connected.
Sending few swords NW to take care of barbarians and protect settler.
SugarTobbacoville founded.
At this point i don't see a reason for self-research. put research to 0 and bought CB for 88 gold. I don't want to do GPt deal with Spain - our next target. I will be looking for other folks around.
Have one elite win. DOn't attack Delhi, will wait for those nearby units to get close.

IBT. Elite sword kills indian archer. No visible barb activity.

T2. 510BC. Send additional worker to help with road to India. And a worker to help connect future incense city. One elite victory.

IBT. French completed Gr.LH. Sword kills barb and promoted to elite.

T3. 490BC. Keep moving troops and workers around.

T4. 470BC. Baruun-Urt is founded. Sending suicadal curragh across the ocean

IBT. Koreans built SoZ.

T5. 450BC. Captured Delhi.lost one swords and had one promoted. Bought Myst from Spain gor 133Gold

IBT. lost a sword to evil barbarian horse.

T6. 430BC. Killed few barb horses. Moving troops to calcutta. Curragh crossed the ocean and i see borders.

T7. 410BC. Meet koreans. They are also in MA. Bought HBR for 2gpt and 103gold. I am not in a hurry to pay gpt for AA techs. The more AIs we meet the cheaper techs will become. Meet France. She is still in AA and misses CoL and Currency. I can make something out of it. Buy currency from Koreans for 20gpt+20gold. Bought construction and Philo from France for Currency 8gpt and 17 gold. We need CoL, Poly and MM to enter MA.

IBT. Koreans built HG.

T8. 390BC. Calcutta captured. 2 elite victories - no leader.

IBT. Koreans completed Pyramids

T9. 370BC. Connected Incense. Two elite victories - auto-razed Bengal. Lost elite archer. Such a bad luck with leader hunting.. This game is certainly much harder than previous one and mostly because of bad luck (barbs, late contacts, leader hunt). Hey, we probably should never let gozpel to create any maps.

IBT. French built GW, Arabs built MoM. Everybody is building Gr. Lib.

T10. 350BC Holy cow Karakorum riots... How'd i missed that. Should never have said anything bad about Gozpel. Two more elite victories and no luck again. Almarich is also about to riot. I hired taxman in both towns to avoid putting lux on 30%. Currently it is at 10%. Both towns at pop7 and building settlers.

Post-turn. Horses will be connected next turn and i think it is time to start building horses instead of swords. If we meet more AIs we should be able to get out of AAs pretty quickly. Right now we are running at +11gpt but treasury is pretty much dried out. Shouldn't be a problem to kill off Indians. It is slow due to sword slow movements. That might be a good thing actually - will help us to level in techs with other AIs and improve infras a little before we start fighting Spain.

passing this to Bede. Have fun.

 

[grahamiam]

nicely handled dmanakho. we met Korea and France on the same turn so we can choose either after Spain is finished. 1st post in this thread has been updated with the latest war roster.

Player Roster:
gozpel
bigfoot
grahamiam
dmanakho
bede -> UP
el filet -> on deck

 

[dmanakho]

will take us forever to finish Spaniards... Looks like they are on another continent... I am building a curragh in our incense city. That should help explore what Spain is about a little more.

It is hard to believe we have so large continent shared just between us and India.

 

[Bede]

Inneresting, very inneresting!

Got it. Proceed against India. Haveing fun already.

 

[Bede]

We are way, way behind the rest of the world.

Continued the advance on the Indians and razed Kohlapur in 290 and Madras in 170BC.

Determined leader fishing produced nothing by way of a leader but the brave Bonkers was killed after winning his "Golden Goose" fletching by whacking a barbarian camp and joining the Madras contingent.

Built three more towns, one west of Ta-Tu on the ccoast, one in the north and one more in the east.

Looks like a war with France will come sooner rather than later as they have founded two towns in the west. My suggestion would be declare on Spain first, then France, and raze the French towns hoping for some technology in the Peace Treaty.

The barbarians coming from the east and north remain more than a little troublesome. Had to spend down the treasury opening embassies to avoid too much gold loss. as they threatened in the east and north with way more yokels than I had defenders.

Paris is like way scary....though I realize it is because they are enjoying their Golden Age.

Built some horsemen but had to send them east to deal with the barbarians which were swarming like hornets out that way. The swords, archers and catapults appear to be enough to do the dirty to the Indians, though they keep mulitplying like rabbits and building towns in the east.

Jaipur is to the south of our forces (the current capitol), there is at least one more town to the west in the fog and two or more to the east, south of the Spanish outpost. Also the town in the fog to the west of Jaipur is chock-full of Indians who were on a barb hunt that way.

I was probably a little too deliberate in prosecuting the Indian War but it takes so long to get reinforcement down the peninsula I preferred to attack only with a full complement of healthy troops then pick up reinforcement while the wounded healed.

Our battered curragh has not yet fulfilled his mission on the high seas as we still lack one contact.

Roster check:

gozpel -> on deck
bigfoot
grahamiam
dmanakho
bede
el filet -> UP

 

[el_filet]

i got it
won't play now, not feeling well

150 BC (0):
we're building temples & markets almost everywhere
2 junk cities N are building FP and palace
making +6gpt with no research and 30% lux - we need a better gov
we're paying 30 gpt to other civs
all our culture comes from palace (220; leader france: 1612)