civver_764
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No way I'm reading through the whole thread 
. I'll read the updates though.
What about the first ABNW?
. I'll read the updates though.What about the first ABNW?
A Brave New World Part 3
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You can check that one out if you'd like, but it really isn't as useful as learning more recent history.
TerrorIncognita
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It's a good read, but not as exciting or intriguing.
In-Character...
Church Bulletin 1950
1. Identification of the faithful.
2. Inclusion of semons of national language and Vatican-approved songs of national language in otherwise Latin Mass.
(3. Renting of an expanded base of operations within Rome. (Awaiting Second Draft of Bi-lateral discussions))
4. Preliminary discussion among the faithful over the establishment of a Levantine State of Zion in order to protect the Christian population and encourage pilgramage and awarenss of the Christian faith.
You are welcome and encouraged to discuss the Pope's intinerary 1, 2, and 4 if you are a predominantly Catholic or Christian nation of any denomination except (most notably) Mormon and Animist or contain a vocal minority capable of the above Christian branches capable of representing their nation.
To start off this discussion we'd like to note on topic 1 that:
(OOC: I am aware this is a very rough map for Year 2000 IRL, but it serves to give a rough idea) http://www.ciai-s.net/catholic_world_map.jpg
The Vatican considers Italy, France, (Austria), (Hungary), Poland, Lithuania, Ireland, Portugal, Korea, the entiriety of South America (except Guyana), the entiriety of Central America, Mexico, the Carribean Federation, Florida, Louisiana, Sauk, New France and Metis as predominantly Catholic as more than fifty percent of the population ascribes to the original version of the One True Faith.
Furthermore the Vatican considers Guyana, Texas, Mississipi, Alabama, Appalachia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New England, Chicago, New France, Alaska, Iroquois, Canada, Quebec, Switzerland, (Bavaria), Prussia, Latvia, Romania, Liberia, Novo Brazil, Ovambia, South Africa, New Holland and New Zeeland to be partly Catholic and otherwise Christian. Furthermore the Vatican considers Iceland, England, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Russia, Ukraine, Crimea, Bulgaria, Serbia to be predominantly Christian of Anglican, Calvinist, Protestant, Protestant-Charismatic and Orthodox denominations.
Furthermore the Vatican considers Japan, China, Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Deseret, Nez Perce, Lakota Sioux, Isanti and Fox to have significant (though politically dominant in Syria's case) Christian minorities of Catholic (Japan), Protestant-Charismatic and Catholic, Orthodox (Syria, Jordan, Palestine) and Catholic-Protestant (Deseret, Nez Perce, Lakota Sioux, Isanti, Fox).
The Vatican considers Deseret to be semi-Christian for worshipping Jesus but otherwise desecrating Christian tradition for abandoning the doctrines of forgiveness by grace and trinity and excludes her from the Vatican forum of Christian discussion. - This issue has been resolved.
The Vatican is wary of animist influence on Catholicism in Metis, and while it considers the Metis to be significantly to predominantly Catholic will for the time being exclude her from the Vatican forum until a conclusion of her religious identity can be reached. - This issue has been resolved.
The Vatican once again welcomes and encourages discussion on this topic. We wish to give every state their chance to state why their or another nation should or should not be classified as their current or a different category or not to be classified at all. Please consider this to be a religious census of Christianity, in particular Catholic Christianity and whether the nations in question feel positive or negative about their Christianity or lack of it.
On topic 2 The Vatican notes that in order to reach a wider audience reform is sometimes necessary. While we do not and will not abandon the Latin Mass that has served God's Kingdom so well through the ages the Vatican suggests that volountary adoption of sermons in the national language be allowed in Churches and that select songs of the national language be approved for Churches. This measure of approval for songs is to ensure that the treasure that is our knowledge of Latin and Latin songs is not eroded by the newfound and varying qualities of native language composers.
The Vatican desires to hear the opinion of all Catholic majorities and minorities on this matter.
In-Character...
Church Bulletin 1950
1. Identification of the faithful.
2. Inclusion of semons of national language and Vatican-approved songs of national language in otherwise Latin Mass.
(3. Renting of an expanded base of operations within Rome. (Awaiting Second Draft of Bi-lateral discussions))
4. Preliminary discussion among the faithful over the establishment of a Levantine State of Zion in order to protect the Christian population and encourage pilgramage and awarenss of the Christian faith.
You are welcome and encouraged to discuss the Pope's intinerary 1, 2, and 4 if you are a predominantly Catholic or Christian nation of any denomination except (most notably) Mormon and Animist or contain a vocal minority capable of the above Christian branches capable of representing their nation.
To start off this discussion we'd like to note on topic 1 that:
(OOC: I am aware this is a very rough map for Year 2000 IRL, but it serves to give a rough idea) http://www.ciai-s.net/catholic_world_map.jpg
The Vatican considers Italy, France, (Austria), (Hungary), Poland, Lithuania, Ireland, Portugal, Korea, the entiriety of South America (except Guyana), the entiriety of Central America, Mexico, the Carribean Federation, Florida, Louisiana, Sauk, New France and Metis as predominantly Catholic as more than fifty percent of the population ascribes to the original version of the One True Faith.
Furthermore the Vatican considers Guyana, Texas, Mississipi, Alabama, Appalachia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New England, Chicago, New France, Alaska, Iroquois, Canada, Quebec, Switzerland, (Bavaria), Prussia, Latvia, Romania, Liberia, Novo Brazil, Ovambia, South Africa, New Holland and New Zeeland to be partly Catholic and otherwise Christian. Furthermore the Vatican considers Iceland, England, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Russia, Ukraine, Crimea, Bulgaria, Serbia to be predominantly Christian of Anglican, Calvinist, Protestant, Protestant-Charismatic and Orthodox denominations.
Furthermore the Vatican considers Japan, China, Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Deseret, Nez Perce, Lakota Sioux, Isanti and Fox to have significant (though politically dominant in Syria's case) Christian minorities of Catholic (Japan), Protestant-Charismatic and Catholic, Orthodox (Syria, Jordan, Palestine) and Catholic-Protestant (Deseret, Nez Perce, Lakota Sioux, Isanti, Fox).
The Vatican considers Deseret to be semi-Christian for worshipping Jesus but otherwise desecrating Christian tradition for abandoning the doctrines of forgiveness by grace and trinity and excludes her from the Vatican forum of Christian discussion. - This issue has been resolved.
The Vatican is wary of animist influence on Catholicism in Metis, and while it considers the Metis to be significantly to predominantly Catholic will for the time being exclude her from the Vatican forum until a conclusion of her religious identity can be reached. - This issue has been resolved.
The Vatican once again welcomes and encourages discussion on this topic. We wish to give every state their chance to state why their or another nation should or should not be classified as their current or a different category or not to be classified at all. Please consider this to be a religious census of Christianity, in particular Catholic Christianity and whether the nations in question feel positive or negative about their Christianity or lack of it.
On topic 2 The Vatican notes that in order to reach a wider audience reform is sometimes necessary. While we do not and will not abandon the Latin Mass that has served God's Kingdom so well through the ages the Vatican suggests that volountary adoption of sermons in the national language be allowed in Churches and that select songs of the national language be approved for Churches. This measure of approval for songs is to ensure that the treasure that is our knowledge of Latin and Latin songs is not eroded by the newfound and varying qualities of native language composers.
The Vatican desires to hear the opinion of all Catholic majorities and minorities on this matter.
civver_764
Deity
OOC: This is 1950, not 2010. Or maybe I just completely missed the point of your post .
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Also, going to point out Florida was held by Spain and france until independence, so they would be Catholic. Similarly, the Catholic Church would have large influences in every part of North America west of the Mississippi River, with substantial populations in Louisiana, Sauk, Isanti, Lakota Sioux, Nez Perce, and New France.
Poland largely agrees with the aims of the Vatican, but hopes that the Church will not aim to create a Levantine State of Zion by force or through war, as the world has seen too much war recently, and as Christians in Palestine are, at present, living contentedly and peaceably alongside Muslims and Jews. In fact, we suggest that the Vatican might reconsider this aim altogether: even the suggestion of it could potentially bring about religious tensions there, and such tensions could possibly spread further throughout the world.
TerrorIncognita
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^^^ Oops, thanks; yeah I noticed lol, bit of a brain freeze that one, I just slipped up. I kinda memorized hard this year that it isn't 2009 anymore. <_<
Thanks! and corrected. Would Louisiana and New France be anywhere close to fifty percent Catholic? I'd be glad to give them honorary full Catholic status for their suffering in defeating communism. And do the Fox and Iroquois have Catholic minorities, please? And last but not least has the Chinese Christian population exploded as it did in the early 20'th century (it has reached about 10% in IRL 2010, but was substantial before the Communist shutdown which while damaging Christianity also served as a largely domestic diaspora... I suppose there may have been similar effects with the homongous civil war but that is of course yours and Bombshoo's call).
Duly noted Poland. Your voice has been heard and your vote will be tallied in the halls of the Vatican as to whether serious contemplation and discussion can even begin.
The Vatican would however like to note that the Orthodox Christian population is one of four religious (Jewish, Orthodox Christian, Sunni, Druze) and numerous political factions in the Republic of Palestine and that mild to moderately serious political friction (no large-scale riots or uprisings) has occured and as such the Church would gladly help in catering wordly security for the Palestine flock and the Jews, the Druze and even the Sunni Muslim while at the same time respecting their Orthodox denomination and different faiths respectively.
Thanks! and corrected. Would Louisiana and New France be anywhere close to fifty percent Catholic? I'd be glad to give them honorary full Catholic status for their suffering in defeating communism. And do the Fox and Iroquois have Catholic minorities, please? And last but not least has the Chinese Christian population exploded as it did in the early 20'th century (it has reached about 10% in IRL 2010, but was substantial before the Communist shutdown which while damaging Christianity also served as a largely domestic diaspora... I suppose there may have been similar effects with the homongous civil war but that is of course yours and Bombshoo's call).
Duly noted Poland. Your voice has been heard and your vote will be tallied in the halls of the Vatican as to whether serious contemplation and discussion can even begin.
The Vatican would however like to note that the Orthodox Christian population is one of four religious (Jewish, Orthodox Christian, Sunni, Druze) and numerous political factions in the Republic of Palestine and that mild to moderately serious political friction (no large-scale riots or uprisings) has occured and as such the Church would gladly help in catering wordly security for the Palestine flock and the Jews, the Druze and even the Sunni Muslim while at the same time respecting their Orthodox denomination and different faiths respectively.
Regarding the Métis, in our most developed regions we are quite strictly Catholic, although the previous government was secular. Our original government was strongly Catholic as well. The animist influences you talk about... well, it depends on what amount of influence the Vatican would prefer. We have a bunch of people who co-opted native beliefs during the initial arrival of French traders and missionaries, and a lot of that continues in the more isolated parts of the country.
TerrorIncognita
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In that case the Vatican is glad to include the Metis (sorry, I can't write the umlaut) as predominantly Catholic if she will accept this designation. We apologize of our lacking intelligence on the situation and ask your forgiveness. We would also like to request your volounteer cooperation in reeducating the heretics as while the Vatican is tolerant of other faiths, it does not tolerate non-Christian perversions of Christianity. However we respect the decision of the Metis government though we strongly urge you to consider the spiritual welfare of these fringe deviants.
I would argue that yes, Louisiana is majority Catholic, but not by much, thanks to influx of black vodoun and Protestants throughout the years. New France would be definitely majority Catholic. Any nation west of the Mississippi has at least some Catholic minority, and there would be contingents in Deseret and the various Native American nations. Sauk is a state-based Catholic nation around the monarchy, while the Fox and the Iroquois have Catholic minorities.
bestrfcplayer
Steppin' up!
Nice work their TerrorIncognita. I hope that you do well in this NES. I have one question, when was the Vatican a country in this NES? I must've missed that. Ah well, it looks like for this NES, I'll be lurking.
To Ukraine
From Poland
We wish you success in resolving your current constitutional crisis, and hope that we might have a close and friendly relationship with your nation in years to come. We commend to you constitutional monarchy, as a fair government, and one that allows for a leader who can provide continuity and stability, and who can use his position to further ties between your nation and others, particularly other monarchies.
From Poland
We wish you success in resolving your current constitutional crisis, and hope that we might have a close and friendly relationship with your nation in years to come. We commend to you constitutional monarchy, as a fair government, and one that allows for a leader who can provide continuity and stability, and who can use his position to further ties between your nation and others, particularly other monarchies.
Haseri
Emperor
Hi, I'm with the Red Cross.
I'm here to inform you today that the Red Cross is still going strong, even after 43 years, and we still stick to our founding principles: to protect human life and health, to ensure respect for the human being, and to prevent and alleviate human suffering, without any discrimination based on nationality, race, sex, religious beliefs, class or political opinions.
We are always looking for ways to improve ourselves, and the ways to contact us are open 27/7.
I'm here to inform you today that the Red Cross is still going strong, even after 43 years, and we still stick to our founding principles: to protect human life and health, to ensure respect for the human being, and to prevent and alleviate human suffering, without any discrimination based on nationality, race, sex, religious beliefs, class or political opinions.
We are always looking for ways to improve ourselves, and the ways to contact us are open 27/7.
TerrorIncognita
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Okiez and thanks, I've corrected everything. Later, unless they approach me first, I'll figure out the orientals and colonies of Africa when it's possible for me to PM the players and you. I do wonder about the Maori, Aboriginies (probably mostly dead), and animists of Latin America though... The Saami, the Gypsies and Inuits are probably the same as before.
The Church does not rest, for it guards man's soul!
I think it was a country roughly 50-70 years ago, but I'm not sure. I think it was basically assembled at the end of the first game or somewhere between the first and second. Thanks for the compliment! Likewise for compliments your English grammar is much improved these last few months!
The Church does not rest, for it guards man's soul!
I think it was a country roughly 50-70 years ago, but I'm not sure. I think it was basically assembled at the end of the first game or somewhere between the first and second. Thanks for the compliment! Likewise for compliments your English grammar is much improved these last few months!
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
The Imperium of France reminds the Church that any media, including religious songs, must be reviewed by the Interior Ministerium, "Securis," and the Department of Public Enlightenment for seditious or insubordinate material. Media found unsuitable by the State will be banned across the Imperium, and further attempts to push said media will see the organization in question is dealt with severely, just as any other private organization, and may involve everything from restriction of privileges, seizure of assets, or in extreme cases of informational terrorism, public executions and internment of officials.
TerrorIncognita
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Roman Catholic Church to France: Understood.
The Vatican is currently accepting donations. Know that these good souls will not remain in the dark and will be addressed in thanks through official public (update) messages so that their light may shine the brighter and in extreme cases public visits by the Pope to encourage further growth in their community. This is indeed not a perversion of God's good gifts but the Church's way of encouraging and furthering blessings onto the world community.
The Catholic Church is currently looking for nations that wish to become Protectors of Christianity and a single nation in particular to become Lord Protector of Christianity. For further information on how to achieve these glories please contact the Vatican embassy with your diplomatic detail.
The Vatican is currently accepting donations. Know that these good souls will not remain in the dark and will be addressed in thanks through official public (update) messages so that their light may shine the brighter and in extreme cases public visits by the Pope to encourage further growth in their community. This is indeed not a perversion of God's good gifts but the Church's way of encouraging and furthering blessings onto the world community.
The Catholic Church is currently looking for nations that wish to become Protectors of Christianity and a single nation in particular to become Lord Protector of Christianity. For further information on how to achieve these glories please contact the Vatican embassy with your diplomatic detail.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Vatican
From: France
As the world's largest Catholic nation, we offer a donation of 4 EP to help the mother Church spread the message of the Holy Trinity with all due haste and the proper efficiency reserved to good Christian missionaries.
From: France
As the world's largest Catholic nation, we offer a donation of 4 EP to help the mother Church spread the message of the Holy Trinity with all due haste and the proper efficiency reserved to good Christian missionaries.
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To: The Red Cross
From: Pennsylvania
We in Pennsylvania admire your valiant cause of easing the suffering of mankind. Although we are not one of the wealthiest nations in the world, within the next few years we are looking to start making annual donations to your funds. As a means of further supporting your work, we will offer you an oppurtunity to set up a Red Cross Base in Pennsylvania, possibly something like a 2nd Headquarters. From here you would be able to quickly and efficently respond to any disasters or such in the Americas. Despite our recent, necessary, invasion of New Jersey, Pennsylvania is a very stable and peaceful nation, thus making it an ideal location for such a thing, if you should wish to take us up on our offer.
From: Pennsylvania
We in Pennsylvania admire your valiant cause of easing the suffering of mankind. Although we are not one of the wealthiest nations in the world, within the next few years we are looking to start making annual donations to your funds. As a means of further supporting your work, we will offer you an oppurtunity to set up a Red Cross Base in Pennsylvania, possibly something like a 2nd Headquarters. From here you would be able to quickly and efficently respond to any disasters or such in the Americas. Despite our recent, necessary, invasion of New Jersey, Pennsylvania is a very stable and peaceful nation, thus making it an ideal location for such a thing, if you should wish to take us up on our offer.
ryaz
Chieftain
I would like to take Nijeria.
