A Brave New World Part 3

To China
From Pancasilla


You too are infidel and Allah shall strike down your miserable nation and when the heads of your soldiers lie in piles on the roads then remember it is you who is responsible for the widowing of your women and orphaning of your children.
 
@EQ: Tennessee still shows Conservative party in power though update said Liberals won in a landslide.
 
From Poland
To Ukraine, Russia

We urge you to both come to a peaceful resolution to this conflict
 
Is this really the case? Russia never eradicated the Ukrainian national identity despite four hundred years of Russification, and Ukraine is a hell of a lot closer to the Russian heartland than Hokkaido. By that logic, Alaska should be Russian to this day...

Even with a conscious policy of Russian settlement, I'd expect a similar situation to Manchuria or Alaska--an area run for the economic benefit of Russia, but inhabited mostly by Japanese migrants or indigenous peoples.

- Ukraine is huge, Ezochi is tiny (both population-wise and size-wise).
- The official language of Ukraine, in this NES, is Russian. Russia did a much better job at Russification.
- Before annexing Outer Manchuria, Russia actually actively invested in Ezochi, it being the warmest Pacific port it had.
- Ezochi was taken by Russia in the early 1800s, before Japan had a chance to fully integrate it like in OTL; they didn't even get to rename it to Hokkaido.

Now, the above makes a pretty good point for why there is no significant Japanese presence there, but yeah, it does really not explain why the Ainu decided to assimilate. Maybe it had something to do with the incredibly high (compared to other nations) standard of living that the Russian Federation ensured, or maybe because they enjoyed all the rights ethnic Russians did.
 
OOC: This website has a pretty good map of the religious composition of Indonesia: http://www.youngfabians.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/09/17/are-religion-and-democracy-incompatible/ ^^ I've PMd EQ and he said its pretty much the same as OTL for the minorities. Only question I've got left to EQ is (other than to remind of my Air Equp +1 for 5% Chinese Influence is) whether the various blobs in the middle of green areas have been wiped out yet, fled to the hills/elsewhere or hunkered down and to EQ and Kara which muslim areas are the most fanatic (if it is common knowledge)? The commenter below the article says the article's map is too simplistic to split them in 'modern' and 'traditionalist', but more importantly if either of you have the time how does Kara's Pancasila in ABNW III differ from OTL in the aspects of religious intensity, IF we'd happen to know of course, otherwise I'd rather not know))? Perhaps depending on various variables it is unwise of me to post this for differing reasons, but I think its more important that it'll increase the NESing enjoyment.
 
OOC: EQ, how did Mexican influence jump from 10 percent to 25 in my country? I know where some of it came from, but the rest is a pretty big jump.
 
Has a deadline been set as of yet?
 
To: Japan and Korea
From China


Before war comes about, let us have some negotiations to prevent any unnecessary bloodshed.

To: China
From: Japan

The Samurai coalition is more than willing to negotiate. Korea's aggressive actions in the region must be addressed.

OOC:

Is there any information at all on APACS? I feel like I'm taking shot after shot in the dark with this NES with nothing to go by in the way of setting.
 
To: China
From: Japan

The Samurai coalition is more than willing to negotiate. Korea's aggressive actions in the region must be addressed.

OOC:

Is there any information at all on APACS? I feel like I'm taking shot after shot in the dark with this NES with nothing to go by in the way of setting.

OOC: Regarding Pacific history and some basics on APACS. In the 1800s Japan tried for a quick modernization. This led to a civil war with pro and anti modernization Samari groups fighting it out along with British and Russian influence. Ultimately the Anti side won and Britain took over parts of Japan. Japan would reclaim all of its land from Britain at the end of the war of the second union. I believe Russia did take the North Island around this time.

In the time after that (BT)all nations declared Japan are no go zone. No one was able to trade or influence Japan. Japan was invaded by Korea at some point and remained part of the Korean Empire until Korea's surrender in WW2. In this time however Korea had made moves against China. A coalition of nations formed against Korea and in Korea's defeat Kyushu was ceded to Portugal. Eventually Kyushu was created as an independent state and not reunited with Japan due to it being much different than Japan(more pro-APACS and pro-modernization) while Japan was created and remained generally quite conservative, isolationist and anti-modernization(with the exception of the Army to an extent).

APACS was formed(from memory) after the end of WW2. The decline of Russian, Dutch, Korean(as an Empire anyway) and eventually New English influence left a void and a number of independent nations with no major power moving into the area. China moved in to fill this void and the region has generally prospered since creating a group of(it would seem at least) close friends.

This is my basic understanding of the region anyway. This could be wrong. :p

Editted: Further edits have been made to make it closer to what happened.
 
OOC: Actually Kyushu was a Korean colony originally with the rest of Japan. It was surrendered to Portugal in the peace treaty of the Sino-Korean War for being part of the pro-republic coalition (Republic of China, Portugal, New England and Sweden). It was Portuguese from about 1914-1949, so more than long enough for it to develop separately considering how isolated the rest of Japan was.

Edit: Here is the post where APACS was founded: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8711348&postcount=6388
And here is the first update where APACS is mentioned: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8727833&postcount=6443

Most of the information on it's founding can be found in the pages around these posts.

I suppose to limit further confusion for others, the full list of current members is:

China
New Holland
Borneo
Korea
Kyushu
New Zeeland
And the Philippines has applied and it's membership is being considered at the moment (though it will very likely be admitted).
 
To New England
From Virginia


For your refusal to heed our ultimatum to withdraw military forces from sovereign Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in return for neutral investigations and for your blatant attempt at aggressive expansion at the expense of an Ally of Virginia, a state of War now exists between our two nations.

To the North American Continent
From Virginia


Virginia implores the people of North America to recognize the threat New England poses on the security and well-being of all nations who share the continent. Exclaim your support with a declaration of war against New England. Send a message that the people of North America will not sit by as New England selfishly and violently expands at the expense of her neighbors.
 
From New Holland
To Pancasila

We suggest Mount Galunggung.


OOC: Does anyone have the number on the direct line to heaven? (EQs AIM address.)
Geeze... I just installed AIM on an internet cafee to test-drive some of AOLs flearidden intinerary. ITS AS EVIL AS THEY SAID.
 
A short genealogy of a Hamm.

While the Ham(m) line to be discussed is believed to have come from England in the late 1600's or early 1700's, we will begin with John and his son John B in the 1800's.

The oldest surviving family bible has scrawled in it the name John Ham with a birth date of 1818 in Carolina. No death is listed, but oral family history says that he died during the War of the Second Union while fighting for Virginia.

John B Ham, son of the above listed John, is shown to have been born in October of 1846 at the onset of war, possibly a pre-war baby. He is known to have lived just west of Charlotte in the Virginian province of Carolina. John B saw some battles during the war against Georgia in the late 1850's as a message runner, but never actually fired a weapon. After the war he returned to the area and along with his older siblings, was able to secure a small plot of land to farm from a widow that had lost her husband during the war. He eventually married and had five children of his own. He was bedridden for months before finally passing away due to illness in 1891.

Amaziah Clinton Ham was the youngest child of John B. Born in June of 1878 in the house that his family had on the portion of land near Charlotte. He lived there with his parents and older siblings working on the farm. He married Amanda in 1894 and built a small house for them to live in on land provided by the family. He spent some time in the infantry during Virginia's invasion of Miami, but saw no action and returned home. Though he never could afford slaves, Amaziah participated in some protests when slaves in Carolina were freed. The Gulf War provided enough uncertainty of the future that caused many of John and John B's children including Amaziah to make some poorly thought out gambles. This landed many into debts that they could not pay off. Amaziah is noted to have gotten into an argument with a neighbor over the ownership of some chickens and Amaziah was shot in the chest which took his life. Amanda had to remarry to provide housing for her family and cover her family's debts.

Landrum Pinkney Ham was born in 1907 in his father's house where he lived until his father's death. In 1913 after Amaziah was killed, Amanda remarried and moved the family to a small house northeast of Charlotte. He lived there until he married Nola. During this time he served his time in the military, but he saw no action. He eventually got a job in a mill and was provided a house. He had four or five children; it depends on who you ask whether the eldest was his or if she was from a youthful dalliance of Nola's that had been covered up over the years. He was called up to serve in the military again when Carolina left Virginia in 1936, but with the re-admittance a few months later, he returned to his job in the mill.

Landrum Pinkney Hamm, Junior was born in 1937 during the Great American War. The middle of five children and the only son. He lived with his family north of Charlotte. He served his time in the military and, as was becoming a trend in the family, saw no action. He spent significant time helping proccess new soldiers paperwork, and learned numerous office-based skills. He got out of the military as soon as he could and moved into private work for freight transport companies. He married Alice and had three sons, but the marriage came apart in the late 1960's early 1970's. He focused on his work for the next decade and eventually met a secretary who he would eventually marry in 1979. He moved with Doris to Wilmington in the Carolina province where he continued to work in freight shipping. In 1981, Doris was expecting Landrum's forth, and youngest, son.

Spoiler :
Doris was born in 1953. Her family was primarily from the same area that Landrum lived northeast of Charlotte, though some ancestors could be traced back to the western edge of the Virginian or eastern Appalachia province.


The youngest son of Landrum, Jr would be the one that eventually aquired the nickname Tux when he was older. It is his life that we shall primarily follow.
 
I see there is a large variety of questions requiring my attention since page 19 and one or two before. Rest assured I will answer all upon my return from work today.
 
I see there is a large variety of questions requiring my attention since page 19 and one or two before. Rest assured I will answer all upon my return from work today.

Thank you!

And thanks for the genealogy, tuxedohamm!
 
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