A New Dawn Beta Builds

Okay, I figured out why the projects & World Wonder duplicates with Better RoM.

It should be fixed in beta4, which I will release as soon as possible.
 
I cannot play this. It's removed a big chunk of the civilizations and leaderheads that were in 2.8 originally, and some new configuration makes it so I can't add them back without the game crashing when I select them.


How do I make it stop crashing when I re-add the civilizations? I already included the Modular XML file with all their names enabled in it.


Nevermind, I found it---I had to copypasta some FPK files from the original folder into the new folder.


So here's a better question:

Will the 2.9 and 1.70 BETA3 still work with my replacement of the original Custom Civ's and Custom Leaderhead's modular files with older ones?
 
What is this Battlefield Promotions thing? Does it replace the XP leveling-up and skill-choosing thing, or does it add on to it? Would my scout that earned +20% strength at level 1 be able to choose higher-level skills when it does level up?
 
I did, but he didn't use it because it wasn't the original disk so he wasn't sure what it was. :cry:




One of the reasons I've stayed away from telling certain clients how much things will cost them up front is because they tend to be nicer when they don't know. Has to do with the human psyche. When you've already paid for a service or you know you will pay a set price, you generally want to maximize gain but don't worry about increasing cost. You also care less about your own behavior because the cost, at least in your mind, has already been incurred.

The same calculation happens when you get something for free, although most people are smart enough to realize that when they're coming in for help the onus is on them to direct the conversation in a way that is of benefit to them. Most of the time that just means being polite and not taking any razzing too hard.



Since I feel bad about going so far off-topic, even with maybe Afforess' blessing, I'm putting my answer in spoiler tags.

Spoiler :


If I should happen to have misconstrued your point here, and caused some friendly fire, allow me to apologize in advance (I am Canadian, after all, so the apology is pretty much a given :mischief:).

Thing about Macs is that the primary source of most problems are variously known as eye-dee-ten-tee errors, PEBKACs, or Stupid User Tricks (which are the primary source of problems with all tech, most likely including runaway Toyotas). Most of the time it's nothing serious, sometimes embarrassing, but all told, no harm no foul.

Sometimes it's serious, where files disappear for some 'unknown reason' (and time machine doesn't have it stored) or programs are installed that the user 'doesn't know how it got there', with conversations usually going something like this:

"But it asked me if I wanted to 'securely' the file or something."

"Do you mean securely delete?"

"I don't know, I'm not an expert!"

"So you clicked OK and entered your username and password?"

"Of course, why wouldn't I?"

"But if you didn't know what it was for..."

"But it asked me to! It's a Mac! It should know what I want!"

Unfortunately you find people like that on just about any system.

But no, the point which I believe you've been so circumspect in making stands (and I understand your need to defend your Mac, I used to feel the same way about the Amiga, although I had less of a basis than you do right now), and I had made it in my first response to you -- Macs have been more stable than Windows (although I've been quite satisfied with the latest iteration of Windows). It's what you get when you control the hardware you're running your system on.

But they are less secure. :D Luckily not quite as many people are trying to break Mac security, so the likelihood of malware is much smaller, but not quite as many white hats are trying to find vulnerabilities before they become an issue. Considering that malware is the primary culprit in stability issues under Windows, this is definitely the route I'd go if I wanted to take down an OS X system. All it takes is finding a way to inject bad code into kernel memory (although I'm uncertain and not about to try to find out if the problems with security have been improved, I do know that the kernel is still based off a heavily modified version of Debian that has had several very severe security issues to handle, and last I heard was not going to be updated from the open source code because of licensing issues -- Apple doesn't want to share with the open source community).

Knowing this hasn't stopped me from recommending Macs to some clients (the guy with the fax/printer and modem, for one) when I felt it appropriate and they asked me for a recommendation. That does not mean I have faith in their ability not to break (or be broken). If I were to run/test the Mac equivalent of some of the stuff I regularly do on my PC, I'd almost certainly have stability issues with those programs. Likewise if I tried to run OS X on the quality of hardware that many PCs are made from. Most hardware PC problems are PSU, mobo, ram, hdd (most problems I've had with WD, funny enough), vid card (when not ATI or nVidia). Get those solid and you have a Windows machine that will rival a Mac so long as you don't try to break it or are careless in installing software.

Now, so as to put this to rest, I will state it clearly -- I neither need nor want a Macintosh system, and I am in a better position than most to make an informed decision about it. My point was never about you civ_king (I respect what you do here on the boards, and have often found your posts informative), or an attack on you. My problem was always, has been and will always be, with the idea that people feel they can make a recommendation off a single throwaway line, particularly in computers.

Or I may have gotten a little pissed off that someone on the internet actually tried to get me into the Mac vs. Windows thing, which I'd had my fill of about ten years ago, while I had a lot of time on my hands this weekend. At this hour, I'm not too sure either way. :confused:

As I'll prove Sunday when I post on Linux, my opprobrium is not limited to taking on or supporting a single OS. If you want, on Monday night I can go into a small portion of the myriad of problems Windows has had and continues to have (if I tried to be complete, I would have to out-write Robert Jordan and George R. R. Martin combined, "oh Windows, how well I've known thee"), and on Tuesday night I'll go into why all the other consumer personal computer OSes combined may have more intellectual merit and societal benefit than a guy that goes up on stage and turns his foreskin into a performance act, but just barely (that includes my beloved Amiga OS).

But if you want me to write up on Monday and Tuesday, on Wednesday I'll go into why OS X, while being a superb OS, still fails like the rest. I'll also give some detail as to why it will see a complete reversal of fortunes over the next five to ten years and why while the iPxxx line will do fine for some more years after that, it too will ultimately die out. And it has less to do with technology itself (although there is a strong element to it), and more to do with a number of factors which are completely out of both product designer's and engineer's hands.

To paraphrase Mercutio, "A pox on all their houses."


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Spoiler :
First off I'd just like to say that I know it isn't personal, you have made that amply clear.

yes, they aren't perfect, I know this as I run Norton Antivirus, but I do see as a wee bit unfair that you use data from 2003-04, in 08-09 there were only 24, of the 12 in 2008 all of them were patched, in 2009 ten were patched, leaving only two unpatched over two years one of which isn't minor and the other of medium importance, IMHO not bad,

PS OS 8&9 sucked terribly no contest, but I believe that quality has gone up quite a bit over the years
 
Is that revision 66 not compatible with previous game save? I loaded them many times and got many different crashing positions. But I can play a new game very well. If it is, can I just use the updated xmls and pythons without the new DLL?
 
Is that revision 66 not compatible with previous game save? I loaded them many times and got many different crashing positions. But I can play a new game very well. If it is, can I just use the updated xmls and pythons without the new DLL?

Personally, I played revision 66 few turns so far. However, I found that it is an outstanding advance and I highly recommend you start fresh :).

1. New Resource Bar

2. New geographical labeling system

Cool! :D But up to you :).
 
Personally, I played revision 66 few turns so far. However, I found that it is an outstanding advance and I highly recommend you start fresh :).

1. New Resource Bar

2. New geographical labeling system

Cool! :D But up to you :).

I'm using the old DLL with new other files right now, it looks well. I also can use the new Resource Bar, because of it was implemented in the python file.

I would like to finish my current game before test the next version. I didn't win a game within a month, it was almost done. ;)
 
Will the next set of beta releases be save-game compatible with this current release?

From Lichen's comment below your comment, the answer is no.
 
Which version are you running? I know this problem was in beta2, but I've so far not seen it myself in beta3.

I saw it in beta3. I think it might be linked to units being fortified or in sleep mode near a city that builds one of the towers with a line of site increase.

Unfortunately, I did mod my game, so it might be that. Except I'm using pretty much the same mods I've used before (this game I forgot to increase the Magi unit's move to 2. Why is a missionary set to move 1?!) and the towers are new to my game.

May want to try some test games to see what's happening.
 
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Spoiler :
First off I'd just like to say that I know it isn't personal, you have made that amply clear.

yes, they aren't perfect, I know this as I run Norton Antivirus, but I do see as a wee bit unfair that you use data from 2003-04, in 08-09 there were only 24, of the 12 in 2008 all of them were patched, in 2009 ten were patched, leaving only two unpatched over two years one of which isn't minor and the other of medium importance, IMHO not bad,

PS OS 8&9 sucked terribly no contest, but I believe that quality has gone up quite a bit over the years

Fair enough.

And I was amply impressed with OSX the few times I've used it. Fact is, I'd have loved to see many of the ideas in OSX transferred to Windows. The way OSX installs programs as packages (similar to Linux) is at least a little smarter than Windows.
 
Hi Afforess,

I downloaded your rev 66 last night and installed everything but sea monsters, and only coal interface color.

Now it's displaying: "Error in unitBuilt event handler <bound method WarriorsOfGod.onUnitBuilt of <WarriorsOfGod.WarriorsOfGod instance at 0x181093A0>>

Attached the image of it.
 

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Dont know for sure if this has been addressed or not but when an enemy takes over one of the cities, its FOG is there, then the next turn i can capture that city again PLUS take over ALL of its siege weapons and it places the units that were there outside the city and i am in charge of the city again:confused:
 
Fair enough.

And I was amply impressed with OSX the few times I've used it. Fact is, I'd have loved to see many of the ideas in OSX transferred to Windows. The way OSX installs programs as packages (similar to Linux) is at least a little smarter than Windows.

installation? you mean the entirely self contained package?

some comparisons
Cost: Snow Leopard $25 vs Windows 7 $120-220
Space: Snow Leopard 5GB vs Windows 7 16-20GB (both recommended space)
Multicore?: Snow Leopard designed for it vs Windows 7 multicore usable
32-64 bit? Snow Leopard only 64 vs Windows 7 32 or 64

basically runs laps around Windows 7

if you want a hackintosh
http://lifehacker.com/5351485/how-to-build-a-hackintosh-with-snow-leopard-start-to-finish
~$800 for an OSX machine

I presume as you fix computers for a living you know how to build one (if not a guide is included)
 
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