A question to Communists:

[Emperor2]

I know I am going to start a ten page debate, a flurry of angry members, a few moderaters constantly watching me, when i don't really feel up to any of it, but I really need to ask:

When Communists look around and see the great that Capitalism has done, how can't they support it? Yes, there is poverty, but that is an unfortunate part of life. With all of the great things we have here and all of the people in America making more money than anyone else in the world and having enough to buy food and luxuries, how can they still not support it.

Thank you for letting me know.

 

[CaptainF]

I'm not a communist, but I'd say it's more so a desire to equal the wrongs in this world, permanent though they may be.

A lot of them I'd say aren't really die-hards, they just think that communism is one way to fix these wrongs.

 

[CCA]

Because the chicks love it.

 

[CaptainF]

EDIT: Delete this.

 

[ainwood]

Moderator Action: Cease the spam & threadjacking.

 

[Tycoon101]

Most Communists are teenagers who feel that they are entitled to the money of the rich without working for it.

It's not a matter of disliking Capitalism, it is a matter of hating the rich.

 

[Shadylookin]

I think it has to do with the amorality of capitalism(that they perceive to be immoral). If you can fire 100 workers and increase profits you do it even if it doesn't put them homeless out on the street. If pumping out large amounts of toxic material is cheaper than switching to safer methods you do it.

capitalism is focused on increasing profits even if they don't have the best interest of the people at heart. Communists focus on the negatives of capitalism and try to think out a way to create a society that has more economic equality.

well that's my guess as to how they justify their support of communism

 

[Bill3000]

I know I am going to start a ten page debate, a flurry of angry members, a few moderaters constantly watching me, when i don't really feel up to any of it, but I really need to ask:

If you knew that beforehand, then there was no point in starting it in the first place.

 

[Jawz II]

Probably because they feel like feeding the starving children of the world is more important than over-eating, new shiny objects, sneakers with lights in them or whatever plastic crap made in china, transported to the US of A, americans buy and then grow bored of and throw away 10 minutes later.

Also capitalism has the side effect of destroying the enviroment.

 

[Emperor2]

How do you explain the fact that 85% of donations last year from America were from Individuals? How do you explain all of the corporations that are feeding starving children in afrcia? How do you explain the fact that a commie country won't make enough food for their own people, much less other nation's children? And have you considered that it is because there are starving children in Africa and the middle east, in Asia and the Americas because there is no capitalsim and/or no democracy, both the nessesary things to create an advanced society?

 

[ainwood]

Have you considered that there are also starving children in the US?

 

[scy12]

Of course capitalism is a better economical system , but all economical systems are atrocious religions. A person shouting :"Capitalism Good !", has no difference with a person shouting "Communism Good !", if neither has studied their effects. I am not saying that you are totally clueless but you are exaggerating in an obvious faction and i don't get what good is for any goverment to exaggerate the benefits of a system.

I guess it is convenient to live in Fairyland until it's time to wake up.

 

[Emperor2]

Have you considered that there are starving children in the US?

Yes, Corporations do feed them too; I'll be sure to edit that in. And yes, there are starving children in America, and that is a terrible thing. But the problem here is not nearly as large as it could be, and a communist government would only make much worse what is already bad.

Of course capitalism is a better economical system , but all economical systems are atrocious religions. A person shouting :"Capitalism Good !", has no difference with a person shouting "Communism Good !", if neither has studied their effects. I am not saying that you are totally clueless but you are exaggerating in an obvious faction and i don't get what good is for any goverment to exaggerate the benefits of a system.

I guess it is convenient to live in Fairyland until it's time to wake up.

I don't think I was exaggerating; I compleatly admit that there are starving people here, but seriously, it could be so much worse. Compare us with other countrys.
And I have studied the difference through and through, I have both "The wealth of Nations" And "Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto" and am reading them both. The Manifesto reads like a drunken idiot wrote it in a crowded bar.
And you seem to be an athiest. Are you?

 

[ainwood]

I think the issue is that you see things as binary options. Capitalism is better; communism is flawed. But they're not the only options.

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

I know I am going to start a ten page debate, a flurry of angry members, a few moderaters constantly watching me, when i don't really feel up to any of it, but I really need to ask:

When Communists look around and see the great that Capitalism has done, how can't they support it? Yes, there is poverty, but that is an unfortunate part of life. With all of the great things we have here and all of the people in America making more money than anyone else in the world and having enough to buy food and luxuries, how can they still not support it.

Thank you for letting me know.

When I look around and see the great Capitalism has done, I compare it to the wrongs Capitalism has done.

I support some ideas of Capitalism and some ideas of Communism. I feel that while the idea od a Workers paradise is nice, I realize it is unacheivable, at least for the time being. However I can still support some Communist ideas.

Pretty much, everytime you post a thread like this you have the same message:

"Communism is Wrong, Capitalism Rules."

And so you dont argue that, I request you read your message again where it pretty much tells us that Capitalism has done so much good you should just support it and screw communism:

Spoiler :

When Communists look around and see the great that Capitalism has done, how can't they support it?

At least, thats the message I got...

 

[scy12]

Yes, Corporations do feed them too; I'll be sure to edit that in. And yes, there are starving children in America, and that is a terrible thing. But the problem here is not nearly as large as it could be, and a communist government would only make much worse what is already bad.



I don't think I was exaggerating; I compleatly admit that there are starving people here, but seriously, it could be so much worse. Compare us with other countrys.
And I have studied the difference through and through, I have both "The wealth of Nations" And "Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto" and am reading them both. The Manifesto reads like a drunken idiot wrote it in a crowded bar.
And you seem to be an athiest. Are you?

You oversimplify things. And compare you with other countries ? I think it would be better to compare several countries that use different economic systems that fall under similar conditions. Other than the maturity of industry , economy that enables a system to work great in a country we must also keep in mind different demographics,natural resources , culture ,etc.
Different economies grow differently and obviously what may work for some may not necessarily work for other's in different conditions.

There are what ? , only 2 or three or one pure Communist countries.And their are some theocratic republics

You will be amazed to learn that almost every country uses a variation of a capitalist system .

Sometimes Bad capitalistic approaches are as disastrous as anything else.
Too much Free market policies , Too few free market policies and so on. Capitalism is such a broad word.

And have you considered that it is because there are starving children in Africa and the middle east, in Asia and the Americas because there is no capitalsim and/or no democracy, both the nessesary things to create an advanced society?

Their is some or a lot capitalism and some democracy. Amazing i know.
Maybe a recovering economy with now a good economic system would still have a lot of Poverty. Saying it is all because they now don't have capitalism ,democracy is a bit ignorant.

And you seem to be an athiest. Are you?

Yes , and why is this now relevant ?

The Manifesto reads like a drunken idiot wrote it in a crowded bar.

I agree , communism is an atrocious system. And the blue is scy. Or the sci is blue. I hope the thread has more substance than this. Or are you supporting that social ideas in capitalist systems are a bad idea . Why ?

 

[Shylock]

Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth, communism is the equal distribution of poverty.

 

[warpus]

Yes, I'd like to know what atheism has to do with communism.

 

[Red Threat]

Karl Marx praised the great achievements of capitalism. He believed that socialism would have overcome these achievements.

 

[thenooblet22]

Capitalism actually gives chances at oppurtunities, while communism puts chains on your possible future. The problem with capitalism, however, is exploiting it for one's own greed as others starve on the streets. It's a titter-totter: one money class has more leverage on the other and they are not budging.