a realistic solution for the Middle East

[Hafezudine]

perhaps the holiest land in the world, for most people, and has the oldest history, and has several large ethnic groups, and historical claims, where do you see a solution for the Problems in the Middle East, can you find solutions for the following conflicts

*Arabs and Israel over Jerusalem and Palestine, Golan, South Lebanon
*Arabs and the Persians over Ahwaz
*Arabs and Turkey over Hatay
*Azerbaijan and Armenia over Karabakh
*Azerbaijan and Persians over East Azerbaijan
*Armenia and Turkey over the Genocide
*Persians and Arabs over Bahrain and UAE islands (Tunb and Abu Musa)
*Persians and Israelis over Existance of Israel, and Holocaust
*Persians and Turkey over Kurdistan
*Turkey and Israel over Israeli actions with Palestinians
*Turkey and Cypriots over northern Turkish and southern Greek Cyprus.

etc... and the list doesnt stop, with tens of wars

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Arab-Israeli War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict

1948 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs to liberate Palestine, from the UN resolution to divide Palestine and give a half to Jews from Europe, and the other half to Native Palestinians, ended in Arab defeat and the exodus of 700,000 palestinians from the "jewish half" of palestine, given by the UN)

1956 - Arab-Israeli War (war of the Suez Crisis, ended with Egyptian Political Victory)

1967 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Israel, against all neighboring Arab countries, loss of West Bank, Jerusalem, Gaza, Sinai and Golan Heights)

1973 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs, and liberated Sinai and parts of the Golan)

1982- Arab-Israeli War (Israel Invaded the Civil wared lebanon, and caused several massacers, to stop the PLO from attaking israel and plotting from lebanon)

2006- Arab-Israeli war (Israel responded to Hizbullah (Lebanese Militias, supported by Iran) and bombarded Lebanon's Infrastructure)

2008 - Arab-Israeli War (Israel bombarded the Gaza strip, killing 1400 palestinians, and acts of war crimes are probable)

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Arab-Persian Conflicts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Arab_relations

1980 - Arab-Persian war (also called Iraq-Iran war, the war started after long years of territorial dispute, but in 1980 Iraq invaded west of iran, to claim these territories, and to stop any Shia insurgents in its lands, that might be influenced by the Islamic revolution of Iran, war ended with estimated 500,000 Arabs dead, and 800,000 Persians dead, both sides claimed victory)

2006- Arab-Persian War (Cold war between the Arabs and the Persians start, after finding that Persians have been strongly Supporting the Hezbollah Group, and claims from Iran over Bahrain, and its interference in Iraq, Yemen, and Somalia, and Egypt finding Hezbollah (Iranian Supported) militias, and pushing them up for trial.

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Turkish-Cypriot War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus

1974- Turkish-Cypriot War (Turkey Launched a Massive Invasion over the northern part of Cyprus, and resulted in the division of Cyprus and the creation of the unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus).

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Azeri-Armenian War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_War#Summer_1993.2C_the_war_spills_out

1988- Azeri-Armenian War (in Nagorno-Karabakh, resulted in Armenian Victory, and the death of 6,000 Armenians, and 16,000 Azeris.)

1992- Azeri-Armenian War (Khojaly Massacre commited by the Armenian Army, 613 Azerbaijani civilians, of them 106 women and 83 children)

1993 - Azeri-Armenian War (Armenian saw to capture Karabakh, by series of small wars, and going from town to town, which caused of the flee of 120,000 Azeris from their homes in Agdam).

can you find a solution for these Conflicts?

 

[kulade]

The Solution:

2009: Everyone in the Middle East gets over their ******** ethic nationalisms and their willingness to kill for their respective superstitions and work to promote mutual economic development. Peace ensues.

Le Fin.

 

[Joecoolyo]

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Arab-Israeli War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict

1948 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs to liberate Palestine, from the UN resolution to divide Palestine and give a half to Jews from Europe, and the other half to Native Palestinians, ended in Arab defeat and the exodus of 700,000 palestinians from the "jewish half" of palestine, given by the UN)

1956 - Arab-Israeli War (war of the Suez Crisis, ended with Egyptian Political Victory)

1967 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Israel, against all neighboring Arab countries, loss of West Bank, Jerusalem, Gaza, Sinai and Golan Heights)

1973 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs, and liberated Sinai and parts of the Golan)

1982- Arab-Israeli War (Israel Invaded the Civil wared lebanon, and caused several massacers, to stop the PLO from attaking israel and plotting from lebanon)

2006- Arab-Israeli war (Israel responded to Hizbullah (Lebanese Militias, supported by Iran) and bombarded Lebanon's Infrastructure)

2008 - Arab-Israeli War (Israel bombarded the Gaza strip, killing 1400 palestinians, and acts of war crimes are probable)

Hmmm.... this is a very biased look at things (I can tell because of your use of the word "liberated")... and the truth is, that there is no realistic solution. Maybe sometime im the future when people begin to accept things like Israel isn't going away and such, but for now, nothing. Trying to find a solution to this is like trying to find a solution to China and Tibet, or North Korea and South Korea, India and Pakistan etc. etc.

 

[BananaLee]

I say we firebomb the Middle East.

In words quoted from another thread, if they want to be treated as humans, they should act as such.

 

[Masada]

I'm with Bananalee, of course Zheng He must be consulted first!

 

[bombshoo]

The Rapture might work.

 

[Masada]

The Rapture might work.

Only the faithful will ascend to heaven -- Jews bankers, Maori your racial superiors and Musulman don't count.

 

[BananaLee]

I'm with Bananalee, of course Zheng He must be consulted first!

No doubt he'd approve. Why else would he discover America, India, Africa and the South Pole, start the Renaissance in Europe and completely forget about the Middle East?

 

[Masada]

No doubt he'd approve. Why else would he discover America, India, Africa and the South Pole, start the Renaissance in Europe and completely forget about the Middle East?

Our Lawd Zheng He hath forsaken the Middle East.

 

[cardgame]

1967 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Israel, against all neighboring Arab countries, loss of West Bank, Jerusalem, Gaza, Sinai and Golan Heights)

1973 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs, and liberated Sinai and parts of the Golan)

Israel has won all wars it has fought in, including the Six-Day War, which was actually started by the plotting of its neighbors; Israel struck preemptively.

Liberated?

 

[Dreadnought]

Hmm, yeah...it sounds your pro-Arab, and I hate to say it, but the conflicts in the Middle East will end when the Arabs calm down.

 

[Tee Kay]

Israel has won all wars it has fought in, including the Six-Day War, which was actually started by the plotting of its neighbors; Israel struck preemptively.

Liberated?

More like started by miscommunication. Both sides believe an attack by the other was imminent. Israel struck just as Nasser was reconsidering his own plan for a pre-emptive strike.

Hmm, yeah...it sounds your pro-Arab, and I hate to say it, but the conflicts in the Middle East will end when the Arabs calm down.

From Yes Prime Minister:

"I gather we're planning to vote against Israel in the UN tonight."
"Of course."
"Why?"
"They bombed the PLO."
"But the PLO bombed Israel!"
"Yes but the Israelis dropped more bombs than the PLO did!"

 

[Dachs]

Nuke it. All of it.

 

[pawpaw]

" I want to start out with there's no Americans in Iraq--we are winning"

"All world knows--Jews bad, Arabs good--thank you good night"

 

[Supermath]

Rock-paper-scissors, best 600 out of 1199.

 

[Eli]

A small correction for the slightly ignorant:

1973 - Arab-Israeli War (Started by Arabs, and liberated Sinai and parts of the Golan)

While some Egyptian forces really managed to survive (completely surrounded and at the mercy of Israel) in a small coastal strip of the Sinai peninsula which they didn't hold at the start of the war, Israeli forces crossed the Suez Canal and were stationed a mere 100km from Cairo.

In Syria, not only that all the of the Golan Heights were retaken, but the IDF was on the advance and Damascus was within reach.

 

[LightSpectra]

Allow me to summarize the TC's thoughts in a few words.

There will be peace in the Levant just as soon as the Jews cease trying to implement the protocols of the elders of Zion.

 

[Dachs]

You know, the guy who first exposed the "Protocols" as a fake has a pretty cool name.

 

[LightSpectra]

You know, the guy who first exposed the "Protocols" as a fake has a pretty cool name.

Philip Graves?

 

[Karalysia]

1. Israstine
2. Annexation of Shia Iraq, Qatar, Lasha, and Bahrain into Iran, Iraqi Sunni state into Syria, Iraqi Kurd state
3. 2 state solution
4. Annexation of Nagarno-Karabah into Armenia. Azerbaijan annexed to Iran.

Behold I have solved them all!