Abstinence only works, how moronic

Formaldehyde said:
Then the answer in both cases is to simply wear a condom.
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Sure, or just not have sex to begin with. Or, more realistically, limit it. No need to be all over the place.

End of problem and lack of consistency.
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There doesn't need to be consistency since these are very different situations.

A guy can easily impregnate a woman.

I don't think a pair of gays or a pair of lesbians, no matter how much they try, can get eachother pregnant. Very different responsibilities to each coupling.
 
Taniciusfox said:
There doesn't need to be consistency since these are very different situations.
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Right. Whatever you say. :lol:

People are going to engage in sexual acts. It is quite human and normal for them to do so. I think the notion of racticing abstinence until you get married and want to have children in this day and age is patently ludicrous, especially if you advocate gays doing it at the same age.
 
Olbermann might have a point if Bristol Palin had a captive audience. But she holds no authority. All she's doing is using her public profile to warn teenage girls about the consequences of sex--"it's hard to be a single mom, even if you have a supportive family and don't have to worry about money, and it'll be a lot harder for you" Wow, what a horrible person.
 
I think wagging around the kid should be enough to maintain a neo-abstinent lifestyle. It should scare any potential partners into abstaining from making a move on her.
 
Formaldehyde said:
People were quite a bit more promiscuous back in the 60s and 70s before the fear of AIDs changed everything.
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That stopped in the late nineties.
 
Cutlass said:
What happens with 'Abstinence Only', or 'Just Say No' is that it leaves the recipient ignorant of the subject. They say "don't do", but they do not teach about the consequences. Many of those kids that end up preggers simply did not know that their actions could result in pregnancy. Because that knowledge was kept from them. They had sex in complete ignorance of the consequences.

So turn that around: This is what sex is. Do it and you get preggers.

Which do you honestly think will be more effectively discouraging?
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Really? There are teens who know how to have sex but don't know it leads to pregnancy?

Where are these ******** individuals? They don't exist. I imagine you ask a teen couple how they got pregnent and they will probably say they didn't know just to ease there feelings of shame.
 
cardgame said:
Abstinence as a pregnancy-preventative measure absolutely works.

Abstinence-only as an educational concept fails horrendously.
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Nothing else need be said by anyone, anywhere, ever.

Thread won. Thread over. Everyone go home.
 
Quackers said:
Really? There are teens who know how to have sex but don't know it leads to pregnancy?

Where are these ******** individuals? They don't exist. I imagine you ask a teen couple how they got pregnent and they will probably say they didn't know just to ease there feelings of shame.
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They are all over the US. Kids don't know what has been deliberately kept from them. Many American teens aren't even allowed to know what sex really is. Much less given any factual information about it. If you are told nothing by your parents, and your school and doctor are not allowed to tell you, then what do you really know?
 
Whats your solution Cutlass?

I think the government should drop all benefits to single mothers - would solve the problem after about 9 months. :mischief:

Personally I think I had it worked out by ages 7/8 just from watching TV.
 
Quackers said:
Whats your solution Cutlass?
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Full info in schools.

I think the government should drop all benefits to single mothers - would solve the problem after about 9 months. :mischief:
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That would not reduce pregnancies at all.

Personally I think I had it worked out by ages 7/8 just from watching TV.
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With the net now, you'd think the info is out there. Somehow it still misses many.
 
Seriously I watched Soaps like Eastenders and Holby city/casaulty with my mum and I literally worked it out from that. Oh, plus Grange Hill and Byker grove (teen drama on children TV).
But I think I was super inquisitive at that age, which the alcohol has killed off now, and I wanted to know.

..and "kid"? I'm 19 aka the man.
 
Everyone's a kid on the internet unless proven otherwise.
 
Zelig said:
I am incredibly fertile, I have only had sex twice, but I have five kids. :(
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You're just giving me more reason to support complete abstinence then. Or safe sex. Either one until you have the finances necessary to support a child.

That's for heterosexual sex though. It may be a double standard, but it's justified in that one cannot suffer pregnancy through homosexual sex.

STDs are a common fear regardless of orientation though, and that's an argument to be used against sex in all cases where possible.

Whether it be abstinence or safe sex, it's certainly a lot better than widespread proliferation of one's gene pool everywhere. Lots of pregnancies and lots of STDs. Fun.
 
Dumanios said:
Everyone's a kid on the internet unless proven otherwise.
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Where did this rule come from? You must have only arrived on the internet and are trying to make up the rules. Thats not a rule. You just lost the game :smug:
 
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