Adolf Hitler

[Humakty]

Germany being upset because of the attitude of the great imperialistic powers of that time is quite natural. But AH was a lame leader, a sane bastard would have been much better for leading germany.

 

[DavidB1111]

I'm still going to say Hitler wasn't fully insane until towards the end. Plus, he developed Parkinson's disease, or something with some of the syptoms, I don't know....

A few points were made, and I'd thought I'd address them. Hopefully, Affronsomething won't go crazy.

I also understand why Hitler is not in the game if it is indeed illegal in Germany, how they would police a mod for an existing game is beyond me though and that just sounds like an excuse not to include him in the game, since there are other Mods where he features.

Technically it is utterly impossible for Germany to ban a Mod. They would have to be in control of the entire planet in order to pull that one off.
Plus, they act like Hitler in a way, when they ban him, but I think that's for another topic entirely.

Lord Brooks
with long lasting effects all over the planet, not just in Japan.

Uh, those nukes didn't travel the world over you know. They spread their radiation in an area far less than Chernobyl.

In fact, Chernobyl, which I can't spell some times, was worse then all the nuclear bomb tests and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

Nuclear fallout doesn't spread past a certain distance. It just can't. The laws of the universe that nothing can break prevent it.
Plus, like all things, it decays in strength the farther it goes. This is why about 20 miles away from most nuclear bombs, the shock wave will barely be felt by you, nor technically the radiation.. Although, I caution you, not to look directly at the blast.

Now, I admit that yes, due to all the nuclear testing done here in America, that a good portion of the people born since 1945, in a larger area, have Uranium in their bodies, but you know, 2 nanograms don't count.

Cr0ws
so DU released into the environment will be a hazard for unimaginable timescales

Uh, you know nothing about radiation. Sorry. I don't mean to be rude, but uh, Depleted Uranium has as much radiation coming from it as the human body has. Or even a Chunk of Lead.
Okay, so maybe, because it's Uranium it will have a bit more than the human body but still, Depleted Uranium can be worn as a necklace for 70 years and you won't get any radiation damage from it.
Uranium on the other hand is bad for your health if you wear too much of it. Not to mention it's heavy.

Oh, and let's not discuss Plutonium, which releases a deadly gas that will kill you faster than Sarin gas. I think anyway. Really, one doesn't even need to use Plutonium as a nuclear material. Just throw it in a room full of people. Those who don't drop dead will have radiation poisoning.
Minor though.

There are many things far more radioactive than Uranium, I'm sure!


Also, if any one is interested, the only way one single nuclear bomb would have any real lasting effects on the Earth as a whole is if someone decides to make a 50 gigaton nuke.
The biggest ever was 50 megatons. An order of a thousand fold greater.

By the way, the entire world's nuclear arsenal may be good for wiping us out, but the Earth will bounce back as if nothing happened.
Unless you dropped them all in the same spot or something, cracking a hole into the mantle.

 

[cr0ws]

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Uh, those nukes didn't travel the world over you know. They spread their radiation in an area far less than Chernobyl.

In fact, Chernobyl, which I can't spell some times, was worse then all the nuclear bomb tests and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

Nuclear fallout doesn't spread past a certain distance. It just can't. The laws of the universe that nothing can break prevent it.
Plus, like all things, it decays in strength the farther it goes. This is why about 20 miles away from most nuclear bombs, the shock wave will barely be felt by you, nor technically the radiation.. Although, I caution you, not to look directly at the blast.

Now, I admit that yes, due to all the nuclear testing done here in America, that a good portion of the people born since 1945, in a larger area, have Uranium in their bodies, but you know, 2 nanograms don't count.



Uh, you know nothing about radiation. Sorry. I don't mean to be rude, but uh, Depleted Uranium has as much radiation coming from it as the human body has. Or even a Chunk of Lead.
Okay, so maybe, because it's Uranium it will have a bit more than the human body but still, Depleted Uranium can be worn as a necklace for 70 years and you won't get any radiation damage from it.
Uranium on the other hand is bad for your health if you wear too much of it. Not to mention it's heavy.

Oh, and let's not discuss Plutonium, which releases a deadly gas that will kill you faster than Sarin gas. I think anyway. Really, one doesn't even need to use Plutonium as a nuclear material. Just throw it in a room full of people. Those who don't drop dead will have radiation poisoning.
Minor though.

There are many things far more radioactive than Uranium, I'm sure!


Also, if any one is interested, the only way one single nuclear bomb would have any real lasting effects on the Earth as a whole is if someone decides to make a 50 gigaton nuke.
The biggest ever was 50 megatons. An order of a thousand fold greater.

By the way, the entire world's nuclear arsenal may be good for wiping us out, but the Earth will bounce back as if nothing happened.
Unless you dropped them all in the same spot or something, cracking a hole into the mantle.

You have got to be kidding me....So say a dirty bomb goes off in new york...it would be safe to live there?

 

[Humakty]

Of course it will be safe ! Uranium is good for health, and it even tends to get your *guesswhatfitshere* longer ! Harvest will be plentifull AND will render public lightening useless ! Radioactivity is good for you !

Plus we, at the GLIN, are desperate about finding radioactive bodies for our Armies of Doom. So stop being a sissy about it, and just eat those uranium pills DavidB1111 gave you, they are harmless !

 

[DavidB1111]

You have got to be kidding me....So say a dirty bomb goes off in new york...it would be safe to live there?

Depending on what type of radiation is released, it should be safe in between 50 and 20,000 years.
After all, it only took 40 years to be able to eat food grown in Hiroshima.
Also, New York City, or New York state? There is a difference you know.
Oh, and in case you're wondering, depending on the size of a nuke used, it wouldn't even destroy Manhattan island.

Oh, and you do realize that a dirty bomb and a nuke are two quite different things.

Anything else you want to say that I can easily explain? I mean, really, don't just state the things you do and then expect everyone and their brother to believe it.
Always accept the fact you can be wrong.

I mean, again, I know no reason why you posted anything about a dirty bomb. I made a mistake here.
The external radiation dose from DU is about 60 percent of that from the same mass of natural uranium.
OKay, so I was wrong. It will kill you, slowly. Very slowly.
Uranium after all is weakly radioactive and remains so because of its long half-life
You apparently think it's a war crime for anyone to have it, or something like that.

Also, I"m not certain what you're on about, Humanky. Uranium will kill you if you eat it.
Well, if you eat lots of pills of it. Don't randomly join a thread to insult a person, that's called trolling.
And you insulted me by saying I would hand out people Uranium pills. I don't murder people.

 

[generalstaff]

Technically it is utterly impossible for Germany to ban a Mod. They would have to be in control of the entire planet in order to pull that one off.
Plus, they act like Hitler in a way, when they ban him, but I think that's for another topic entirely.

It has more to do with people downloading the mod in Germany being charged with a "hate crime" for having Hitler and swastikas on their computer than Germany trying to ban a mod. The whole thing is due to political correctness, which is an symptom of ignorance.

 

[DavidB1111]

Well, considering we crushed them in WW2, I think we could just put a little pressure on them to get them to repeal that law.

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[cr0ws]

It has more to do with people downloading the mod in Germany being charged with a "hate crime" for having Hitler and swastikas on their computer than Germany trying to ban a mod. The whole thing is due to political correctness, which is an symptom of ignorance.

Thank Allah I don't live in Germany. When something smells rotten you know spoils are laying about.

 

[Humakty]

@Bidule1111 : Joining a thread randomly, without reading earlier posts is insulting. Telling you're a big american redneck, and that you screw germans is insulting. But you don't care, as you're from a supposed superpower (which cries out loud when they're forced to do the dirty job on their own = sissies). You're the troll. And I confirm uranium is dangerous, but I won't tell you have no respect for victims of american bombings, 'cause a priori you're just an unassuming child, so what you say is worthless.

 

[CMKMStephens]

Not wanting to be involved in the Hitler argument really, but this being the suitable venue to pose the question: would buildings and things directly/indirectly related to the Nazi's or other fascist regimes also be illegal in countries like Germany/Austria? Namely the inclusion of things like:

Nuremburg Parade Grounds, or a more innocuous 'National Parade Grounds' - National Wonder with happiness attached to fascism/despot civics, large espionage bonus, moderate maintence

or new techs effectively unrealised by the regimes themselves like 'Monolithic Architecture' (see here)

 

[Humakty]

I wouldn't mind if they're not specifically aimed to the promotion of a peculiar fascism, which would be rude to the victims. But 'national parade grounds' seems OK, as even non fascistic governments use this sort of thing.

In a game depicting reality it is unavoidable, for the sake of consistency, to put in some fascistic references.

 

[DRJ]

I agree with you. But I wouldn't want to see a Auschwitz "world wonder", a "gulag" building or a "silver mine/plantation" that gets rid of the population, referencing to indian genocide.
For that you have slavery already...

It has more to do with people downloading the mod in Germany being charged with a "hate crime" for having Hitler and swastikas on their computer than Germany trying to ban a mod. The whole thing is due to political correctness, which is an symptom of ignorance.

No, it's not ignorance, it's a sign of good taste and liability. A sign of having learned that that stuff is bad for the people as having experienced personally what it leads to. You don't have uranium-marshmellows in your supermarkets, do you? Well I guess in America even that is possible. But would it be in Hiroshima?

 

[DavidB1111]

Thank Allah I don't live in Germany. When something smells rotten you know spoils are laying about.

I agree with you, on the latter, I'm an agnostic though so I can't agree with you on the former.

@Bidule1111 : Joining a thread randomly, without reading earlier posts is insulting. Telling you're a big american redneck, and that you screw germans is insulting. But you don't care, as you're from a supposed superpower (which cries out loud when they're forced to do the dirty job on their own = sissies). You're the troll. And I confirm uranium is dangerous, but I won't tell you have no respect for victims of american bombings, 'cause a priori you're just an unassuming child, so what you say is worthless.

So many rules of the forum broken here where do I begin...
First off, I read every post in the thread, so your whole post is moot.
Second, I never said I screw Germans. That's not very nice at all. And it's basically an insult towards Germans.
Also, I live in North Carolina, which is not really redneck, and I hate the sun, so I definitely don't have a red neck.

Also, I don't recall a single moment in USA history where we complained about doing dirty jobs..
Fifth, I already apologized about not knowing about Depleted Uranium being significantly radioactive, despite Uranium being considered mildly radioactive.
Sixth, I am 27 years old, and will continue to live for decades.
Seventh, I do have respect for those who lives we ruined with the nuclear bomb dropping on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I plan on someday going to those two cites and paying my respects to those who have died.

To DRJ, please understand what Uranium is. It's a toxic metal. No one is going to make Uranium Marshmellows! That wouldn't even work.

Back to Humankty, I never thought I'd do this, but I'm going to have to report you.

 

[Humakty]

Well, considering we crushed them in WW2, I think we could just put a little pressure on them to get them to repeal that law.

We could um, just explain that since we never signed the Nuclear test ban treaty, Yes, we never signed it, we made everyone else sign it, that um, our next nuclear test may....wait, we do have military bases in Germany...Germany doesn't have a massive army. Hmm...

Never mind about the nuke.

Yeah, that's what I'm speaking about, adult behavior, respectfull of people. Ah ah !

Example of DavidB1111 adult posting :
"yeah you know, as USA men have short .... Their women could... our... It will be a most pleasant change for them"

 

[DRJ]

To DRJ, please understand what Uranium is. It's a toxic metal. No one is going to make Uranium Marshmellows! That wouldn't even work.

I was refering to the new Simpsons leader, which shows Otto eating a green uranium stick Homer threw out of his car on the way home. Looked like a marshmellow or something to me (in Germany nobody eats marshmellows btw.). And yes, they wouldn't make uranium marshmellows on purpose. Of course it could happen "accidentally", maybe because the raw material is cheaper due to being contaminated somehow and they don't really care about anything else than the profit. China was a good example with the lead-toys...

 

[DavidB1111]

I think you shouldn't confuse us with China.
Them's fighting words. I kid, I kid.

But uh, the amount of hazardous materials we've used, it wouldn't surprise me if we had heavy metal poisoning of food some time.
But Uranium use is strictly moderated! Even if you have to enrich it to make it go boom.
Yeah, regular Uranium, not good for nukes.

Also, Humanky, you obviously don't understand my joke. No one in their right mind would seriously think Germany should be invaded. I mean, we already firebombed Dresden. They just shouldn't have done what they did.

Again though, you are showing immaturity with this.
"yeah you know, as USA men have short .... Their women could... our... It will be a most pleasant change for them"

This is known as slander. Which is against the law in just about every country on the Earth.
I never said this, and you claiming I said it is, as I've said, slander, and although this is a web forum, it is still considered illegal.
Unless you edit it and say "Paraphrased." This will make it legal.

 

[Humakty]

Oh, but like you I enjoy a good joke ! I'm all about it all the time ! All what I say that may seem threatening and insulting is directly to be considered as french humor, which is world wide known !!!

I must admit the nuclear testing joke is really funny, I'm still all hilarious about it. The 'no adverse effect of nuclear bombing some years afterward' is really good, I'm wondering why everyone wants a missile shield nowadays. The statistics about cancer in Japan is also hilarious !

Firebombing of Dresden is the typicall example of hordes of civilians, submitted to a dictatorship, dying needlessly, burnt alive in their home. American Way of War. AH AH AH. So fun... You really are a 'special' joker.

Plus, I mean, I already did it with an american girl, so it's not like if I would start again...

So you see, like you, I'm all about good ol' jokes...

 

[DavidB1111]

There are plenty of bad affects after a nuclear detonation, but there is no more radioactive material to be found in Hiroshima anymore, same with Nagasaki.
Eventually radiation does deteriorate. Hence why they say half-life.

I am not aware of any studies that rate cancer in Japan at all. If you know where the links are I'd be happy.

As for Cherynobyl, well, I still maintain that did more damage to the world as a whole than the nuclear bombing of those two cities.

That said, Crows, please reply to what I wrote earlier. It was for you more than any other.
Always accept the fact you can be wrong.

Um, Human, I don't quite get your humor...perhaps the legendary French brand of humor doesn't work for me, for some reason? I don't know.

 

[civ_king]

Oh, but like you I enjoy a good joke ! I'm all about it all the time ! All what I say that may seem threatening and insulting is directly to be considered as french humor, which is world wide known !!!

I must admit the nuclear testing joke is really funny, I'm still all hilarious about it. The 'no adverse effect of nuclear bombing some years afterward' is really good, I'm wondering why everyone wants a missile shield nowadays. The statistics about cancer in Japan is also hilarious !

Firebombing of Dresden is the typicall example of hordes of civilians, submitted to a dictatorship, dying needlessly, burnt alive in their home. American Way of War. AH AH AH. So fun... You really are a 'special' joker.

Plus, I mean, I already did it with an american girl, so it's not like if I would start again...

So you see, like you, I'm all about good ol' jokes...

Also the repeated fire bombing of Japan

 

[civ_king]

Well, considering we crushed them in WW2, I think we could just put a little pressure on them to get them to repeal that law.

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