AI not starting wars (solved)

[Borush96]

I've played on all the difficulties up to emperor and only once AI started a war against me in modern era. Is AI more aggressive in higher difficulties? Perhaps my often focus on other victories, never being aggressive against AI and very small army has to do something with AI never responding or starting with wars? The most I get is -90 likeness (max hate) but no wars whatsoever.

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

I play on Immortal. The AI is pretty consistently warring with me or amongst themselves. If I ignore diplomacy and put all my influence into things like city states, I generally find myself getting dog piled.

 

[Mudkip1001]

I've played on all the difficulties up to emperor and only once AI started a war against me in modern era. Is AI more aggressive in higher difficulties? Perhaps my often focus on other victories, never being aggressive against AI and very small army has to do something with AI never responding or starting with wars? The most I get is -90 likeness (max hate) but no wars whatsoever.

I've played my first game on sovereign and all the others on immortal, and in each one the AI has declared war on me within 10-15 turns in the modern age, although I usually am hyper-aggressive in all ages against the AI, but I had Pachacuti declare war on me out of the blue in my first game.. Ik notque's AI mod recently broke the AI's ability to declare war, but he disabled that in the most recent update.

 

[Borush96]

I've played my first game on sovereign and all the others on immortal, and in each one the AI has declared war on me within 10-15 turns in the modern age, although I usually am hyper-aggressive in all ages against the AI, but I had Pachacuti declare war on me out of the blue in my first game.. Ik notque's AI mod recently broke the AI's ability to declare war, but he disabled that in the most recent update.

I actually use the AI mod you mentioned and I was wondering if this might be the reason. I'll try to be aggressive next game and see if it's changes AI behavior, thanks for letting em know

 

[Borush96]

I play on Immortal. The AI is pretty consistently warring with me or amongst themselves. If I ignore diplomacy and put all my influence into things like city states, I generally find myself getting dog piled.

I'll try with this difficulty next time, thanks for responding

 

[Disgustipated]

I play on what I think is equivalent to Emperor (2 levels above the default), the AI really didn't declare on me until Modern age when I was closing in on victory. I had 3 of 4 AI's declare on me including my former alliance member. I guess maybe they saw me approaching victory so declare. They sent a lot of troops and Navy, but most of it was piecemeal, and I was able to handle it.

I don't recall any declarations earlier. I declared surprise war on Isabella in the exploration age because she took 2 of my treasure fleet resources for my planned 5 resource city. She messed up my perfect city spot. Interestingly, she was the only one not to declare on me in the modern age despite me putting the hurt on her previous age.

 

[ProMeTheus112]

Yes AIs have been declaring war on me and tbh I was pleased with the sensical timing and threat posed with the AI wars vs me on immortal/deity. (all ages)

 

[Yzman]

I've played on all the difficulties up to emperor and only once AI started a war against me in modern era. Is AI more aggressive in higher difficulties? Perhaps my often focus on other victories, never being aggressive against AI and very small army has to do something with AI never responding or starting with wars? The most I get is -90 likeness (max hate) but no wars whatsoever.

I got declared kn by the entire world all last game. Perhaps you are too strong? I wasn't building any troops.

 

[Yzman]

I play on what I think is equivalent to Emperor (2 levels above the default), the AI really didn't declare on me until Modern age when I was closing in on victory. I had 3 of 4 AI's declare on me including my former alliance member. I guess maybe they saw me approaching victory so declare. They sent a lot of troops and Navy, but most of it was piecemeal, and I was able to handle it.

I don't recall any declarations earlier. I declared surprise war on Isabella in the exploration age because she took 2 of my treasure fleet resources for my planned 5 resource city. She messed up my perfect city spot. Interestingly, she was the only one not to declare on me in the modern age despite me putting the hurt on her previous age.

Likely ideology made everyone hate you.

 

[Methos]

They haven't dow'ed on me either, but I do spend a lot of influence keeping it that way. They dow on each other a lot, which I'm okay with.

 

[Wabnosa]

They seem to be deterred by military presence. I've had games where one AI will start a war with me if they cant see my military units. Other games were they denounced, I had a strong showing on the border, and they wouldn't declare war and just stayed mad, through 2 or 3 ages.

My issue is with how they wage war. I've seen Rome denounce and come at me with a single legion then crap the bed and Rome burned. Theres another flock of birds strategy I see. Just a horde with no general or siege. AI generals seem busted they sometimes charge in without any army and sometimes seem to go deadstick. The AI should fill up their generals, reinforce a siege to the general or 2. Same with AI ships in exploration I have seen maybe 2 AI fleets in exploration. Many lone fleet commanders.

 

[Disgustipated]

They seem to be deterred by military presence.

I suspect as much. Even though it doesn't show on the banners. My military was fairly low, but of course I had a crapload of money to insta buy At units in every town and city.

 

[Borush96]

I play on what I think is equivalent to Emperor (2 levels above the default), the AI really didn't declare on me until Modern age when I was closing in on victory. I had 3 of 4 AI's declare on me including my former alliance member. I guess maybe they saw me approaching victory so declare. They sent a lot of troops and Navy, but most of it was piecemeal, and I was able to handle it.

I don't recall any declarations earlier. I declared surprise war on Isabella in the exploration age because she took 2 of my treasure fleet resources for my planned 5 resource city. She messed up my perfect city spot. Interestingly, she was the only one not to declare on me in the modern age despite me putting the hurt on her previous age.

I read somewhere that AI are more likely to be more aggressive in modern age. Maybe Isabella was intimidated by your war in the previous era and she knew to not mess with you next time heh

 

[Borush96]

I got declared kn by the entire world all last game. Perhaps you are too strong? I wasn't building any troops.

I rarely build any troops, I only start building an army when I'm threatened or I'm going for a domination victory

 

[Borush96]

They seem to be deterred by military presence. I've had games where one AI will start a war with me if they cant see my military units. Other games were they denounced, I had a strong showing on the border, and they wouldn't declare war and just stayed mad, through 2 or 3 ages.

My issue is with how they wage war. I've seen Rome denounce and come at me with a single legion then crap the bed and Rome burned. Theres another flock of birds strategy I see. Just a horde with no general or siege. AI generals seem busted they sometimes charge in without any army and sometimes seem to go deadstick. The AI should fill up their generals, reinforce a siege to the general or 2. Same with AI ships in exploration I have seen maybe 2 AI fleets in exploration. Many lone fleet commanders.

I heard about how reckless and stupid AI can be with some decisions, especially with generals and placing settlements. I use AI improvement mod which helps with these issues.

 

[chrisgatt7]

I read somewhere that AI are more likely to be more aggressive in modern age. Maybe Isabella was intimidated by your war in the previous era and she knew to not mess with you next time heh

The AI is forced to declare war in the modern age, WW1/WW2 is the "crisis"

 

[Tanel]

I actually use the AI mod you mentioned and I was wondering if this might be the reason. I'll try to be aggressive next game and see if it's changes AI behavior, thanks for letting em know

I've also played with the mod and never seen AI declare on me not even in the Modern age. They have declared on my allies and others but never on me. It once denounced me and moved 3 armies next to my border but still nothing. I'm going to try the next game without that mod.

Actually the only time they did declare was in my 1st game when I didn't have that mod. The latest version was supposed to fix this but hasn't for me.

 

[Borush96]

I've also played with the mod and never seen AI declare on me not even in the Modern age. They have declared on my allies and others but never on me. It once denounced me and moved 3 armies next to my border but still nothing. I'm going to try the next game without that mod.

Actually the only time they did declare was in my 1st game when I didn't have that mod. The latest version was supposed to fix this but hasn't for me.

Oh! That can't be a coincidence then I think. Please let me know how did your game go.

 

[stealth_nsk]

That's the big thing with mod - they could do good things, but they aren't as tested as the game itself and they could mess with a lot of mechanics sometimes in quite unexpected ways. I only use mods for games where support cycle already ended... or for Bethesda games, which are not supposed to work without mods.

 

[Borush96]

The AI is forced to declare war in the modern age, WW1/WW2 is the "crisis"

makes sense

That's the big thing with mod - they could do good things, but they aren't as tested as the game itself and they could mess with a lot of mechanics sometimes in quite unexpected ways. I only use mods for games where support cycle already ended... or for Bethesda games, which are not supposed to work without mods.

That's fair, modding AI in games can be a double edge sword after all