ThERat
Deity
ok ok here it is
Elvis the Pelvis at a show in Augustodurum
Elvis the Pelvis at a show in Augustodurum
AK06 Eclectic
- Thread starter Admiral Kutzov
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Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
Things didn't go as planned so gram will have to postpone the roll for a bit.
Preflight, got peace straight up with X. Set up an embassy with X. Monarchy, iron & horses. One king. Lots of shiny wonders. Sign up X v. Joan so they can knock themselves out. Cost us dyes and wines.
Nothing much happened until Osman built Sinop. I killed it the tun after it was built.
Toku has at least 10 units in the Antalya enclave.
Finally took out Bursa in 530.
Antalya's borders expand in 540.
May want to sign up Toku v. Greece and watch some of those units run back towards the homeland.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Brennus_of_the_Celts,_550_AD.SAV
Preflight, got peace straight up with X. Set up an embassy with X. Monarchy, iron & horses. One king. Lots of shiny wonders. Sign up X v. Joan so they can knock themselves out. Cost us dyes and wines.
Nothing much happened until Osman built Sinop. I killed it the tun after it was built.
Toku has at least 10 units in the Antalya enclave.
Finally took out Bursa in 530.
Antalya's borders expand in 540.
May want to sign up Toku v. Greece and watch some of those units run back towards the homeland.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Brennus_of_the_Celts,_550_AD.SAV
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
got it.....
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
Preflight check: Trades: Sell Iron to Japan for Metal, 2gpt, 25g, and WM.
Buy MT from Persia for Salt, WM, 17gpt, 390g.
Upgrade 1 knight and 1 horseman to cavs.
IBT: Greece and Persia MA vs France
Ratea C temple -> cannon
Greeks complete Bachs.
T1: 560AD Found Curovernum -> worker move stuff around, trying to get our small number of cavs to the greek front for war in 1T
IBT: August cav -> cav
T2: 570AD moving more stuff around
IBT: Greece wants to renew peace, I refuse. Greeks move up some junk.
Lug cav -> cav; Cataractonium duct -> court
T3: 580AD Upgrade another horseman
Near Eboracum: elite horse kills LB (5/5)
@ Ephesus: MDI army kills Hoplite (10/13), another on top.
@ Verul: Trebs take 2hps off LB, kill it with a GS.
Sign Japan vs Greeks for 28gpt, swap WMs
IBT: Entremont cav -> cav
T4: 590AD Near Ephesus: elite horseman kills LB on mountain; @ the town: MDI army kills 2 hoplites and we raze the town + get 6g
Sell Salt and dyes to Japan for Education, 18gpt, 13g, WM
In a bizarre twist, France and Japan sign MA vs us. Bastards! Persia and France sign peace.
Eboracum settler -> settler
T5: 600AD Greece is Industrial. Going to need more arty, this is going to be tough.
Sign peace with France, giving WM and 4g. We dont need her dogpiling Persia on us too.
Near August: elite horse kills LB and ducks into town (1/5)
Trade: Sell Iron and Salt to France for Banking, Astro, 11gpt, 1g, and WM. We can buy physics but I hold off for now, as we dont need it yet.
Rush a musket in August (6LBs nearby)
Near Lapurdum: Elite GS kills redlined Samuri (4/5)
Knight army goes on a pillaging mission in Greece.
IBT: Defend against 2 LBs in August, promoting the Cav to elite; Greece + Persia sign MA vs Japan
Greeks move strongly towards our Gems town, Agedincum, which just finishes its walls.
August musket -> cav
T6: 610AD Near Agedincum: cav kills MDI (3/4); cav kills MDI and promotes (4/5); cav kills MDI (2/4); cav dies to MDI (2/3); cav redlines and then loses 4 straight and dies to MDI (1/3); cav kills MDI (4/4); LB kills LB (1/4); 4/5 cav kills LB (4/5); MDI kills redlined MDI (4/4).
@ Lapurdum: Trebs go 1/2; MDI dies to pike and promotes it (3/4). Move workers out of the area.
Rush a spear in Lindum
Trade: sell dyes to Persia for 2gpt and 13g.
IBT: @ Lapurdum: pike redlines but holds vs LB; GS flawlessly holds vs LB; Near Agedincum: MDI fends off 1 MDI but succumbs to the second.
Entremont: cav -> cav; Lindum: spear -> temple
T7: 620AD Found Glanum -> worker
@ Lugurdum: cav redlines but dies to Jap pike; elite GS kills it.
Upgrade 1 horse.
@ Agedincum: (all Greek kills) cav kills MDI (3/4); 4/5 cav kills MDI (3/5); 4/5 cav kills LB (3/5)
IBT: Burdigala FP -> market; Alesia market -> cav; Richborogh duct -> market
T8: 630AD FP is worth 30gpt!
At Anatalya (Japanese town near our core): MDI army kills Samuria (11/13)
Near Burgaldia: treb misses spear; cav kills spear, then moves under army, next to Anatalya
Pillage Greek iron.
Near Agedincum: (all Greek): cav kills MDI and promotes (3/5); cav kills MDI (4/4)
@ Lapurdum: trebs go ½ on reg Jap pike; elite GS kills it (4/5)
IBT: HE completed in Camulodunum -> cav
T9: 640AD Near Lapurdum: trebs go 0/2 vs pike on the dyes.
@ Anatalya (Japanese): MDI army kills Samurai (9/13); MDI army kills pike (9/13); cav kills spear (3/4); horseman kills spear (2/5) and we take the town + 5g + 2 worker.
Elite cav kills LB nearby; reg cav retreats from spear nearby.
IBT: Japanese pike pillages a dyes; Entremont cav -> cav
T10: 650AD Near Anatalya: MDI army kills Jap spear (on mountain); elite cav kills LB (3/5); elite cav kills LB (3/5); ¾ cav kills LB and that does it for the land units. 3 Jap ships are trolling around the south coast so beware.
Near Lapurdum: trebs go 1/2 on LB; elite GS redlines but kills it;
Greeks seem to be retreating wholesale from gems area. Maybe the Japanese are bringing some heat.
Mini Jap stack beelining for our core from the N.
Knight army is pillaging the piss out of the Greek core. We can get peace with Greece + physics for 10gpt. Or we can get it from France for all our cash, 24gpt, wines, and dyes. Then go sign peace with Greece, seeing if we can get mag + ToG at bargain prices. We can also keep up the
on Greece as we seem to be hurting them with the pillaging + Japan on the other side. Also, he does not have rifles yet 
We must fix our core. Lug needs a duct and to get much bigger. Alesia is on its way but does need its jungles chopped. We only have 1 town doing decent spt so its very hard to build up anything. Camul is another one thats hard to fix.
Entremont is on a starvation build, doing 27spt so a cav every 3T.
Buy MT from Persia for Salt, WM, 17gpt, 390g.
Upgrade 1 knight and 1 horseman to cavs.
IBT: Greece and Persia MA vs France
Ratea C temple -> cannon
Greeks complete Bachs.
T1: 560AD Found Curovernum -> worker move stuff around, trying to get our small number of cavs to the greek front for war in 1T
IBT: August cav -> cav
T2: 570AD moving more stuff around
IBT: Greece wants to renew peace, I refuse. Greeks move up some junk.
Lug cav -> cav; Cataractonium duct -> court
T3: 580AD Upgrade another horseman
Near Eboracum: elite horse kills LB (5/5)
@ Ephesus: MDI army kills Hoplite (10/13), another on top.
@ Verul: Trebs take 2hps off LB, kill it with a GS.
Sign Japan vs Greeks for 28gpt, swap WMs
IBT: Entremont cav -> cav
T4: 590AD Near Ephesus: elite horseman kills LB on mountain; @ the town: MDI army kills 2 hoplites and we raze the town + get 6g
Sell Salt and dyes to Japan for Education, 18gpt, 13g, WM
In a bizarre twist, France and Japan sign MA vs us. Bastards! Persia and France sign peace.
Eboracum settler -> settler
T5: 600AD Greece is Industrial. Going to need more arty, this is going to be tough.
Sign peace with France, giving WM and 4g. We dont need her dogpiling Persia on us too.
Near August: elite horse kills LB and ducks into town (1/5)
Trade: Sell Iron and Salt to France for Banking, Astro, 11gpt, 1g, and WM. We can buy physics but I hold off for now, as we dont need it yet.
Rush a musket in August (6LBs nearby)
Near Lapurdum: Elite GS kills redlined Samuri (4/5)
Knight army goes on a pillaging mission in Greece.
IBT: Defend against 2 LBs in August, promoting the Cav to elite; Greece + Persia sign MA vs Japan
Greeks move strongly towards our Gems town, Agedincum, which just finishes its walls.
August musket -> cav
T6: 610AD Near Agedincum: cav kills MDI (3/4); cav kills MDI and promotes (4/5); cav kills MDI (2/4); cav dies to MDI (2/3); cav redlines and then loses 4 straight and dies to MDI (1/3); cav kills MDI (4/4); LB kills LB (1/4); 4/5 cav kills LB (4/5); MDI kills redlined MDI (4/4).
@ Lapurdum: Trebs go 1/2; MDI dies to pike and promotes it (3/4). Move workers out of the area.
Rush a spear in Lindum
Trade: sell dyes to Persia for 2gpt and 13g.
IBT: @ Lapurdum: pike redlines but holds vs LB; GS flawlessly holds vs LB; Near Agedincum: MDI fends off 1 MDI but succumbs to the second.
Entremont: cav -> cav; Lindum: spear -> temple
T7: 620AD Found Glanum -> worker
@ Lugurdum: cav redlines but dies to Jap pike; elite GS kills it.
Upgrade 1 horse.
@ Agedincum: (all Greek kills) cav kills MDI (3/4); 4/5 cav kills MDI (3/5); 4/5 cav kills LB (3/5)
IBT: Burdigala FP -> market; Alesia market -> cav; Richborogh duct -> market
T8: 630AD FP is worth 30gpt!
At Anatalya (Japanese town near our core): MDI army kills Samuria (11/13)
Near Burgaldia: treb misses spear; cav kills spear, then moves under army, next to Anatalya
Pillage Greek iron.
Near Agedincum: (all Greek): cav kills MDI and promotes (3/5); cav kills MDI (4/4)
@ Lapurdum: trebs go ½ on reg Jap pike; elite GS kills it (4/5)
IBT: HE completed in Camulodunum -> cav
T9: 640AD Near Lapurdum: trebs go 0/2 vs pike on the dyes.
@ Anatalya (Japanese): MDI army kills Samurai (9/13); MDI army kills pike (9/13); cav kills spear (3/4); horseman kills spear (2/5) and we take the town + 5g + 2 worker.
Elite cav kills LB nearby; reg cav retreats from spear nearby.
IBT: Japanese pike pillages a dyes; Entremont cav -> cav
T10: 650AD Near Anatalya: MDI army kills Jap spear (on mountain); elite cav kills LB (3/5); elite cav kills LB (3/5); ¾ cav kills LB and that does it for the land units. 3 Jap ships are trolling around the south coast so beware.
Near Lapurdum: trebs go 1/2 on LB; elite GS redlines but kills it;
Greeks seem to be retreating wholesale from gems area. Maybe the Japanese are bringing some heat.
Mini Jap stack beelining for our core from the N.
Knight army is pillaging the piss out of the Greek core. We can get peace with Greece + physics for 10gpt. Or we can get it from France for all our cash, 24gpt, wines, and dyes. Then go sign peace with Greece, seeing if we can get mag + ToG at bargain prices. We can also keep up the
on Greece as we seem to be hurting them with the pillaging + Japan on the other side. Also, he does not have rifles yet We must fix our core. Lug needs a duct and to get much bigger. Alesia is on its way but does need its jungles chopped. We only have 1 town doing decent spt so its very hard to build up anything. Camul is another one thats hard to fix.
Entremont is on a starvation build, doing 27spt so a cav every 3T.
ThERat
Deity
wow looks like some heated action, unfortunately no leader, a Cav army would be key.
I'd say we sign peace with Japan and try and Greece a little more. We should take out Pharsalos and Delphi, only if we have a Cav army should we attempt to get Athens.
our resources seem to give us a lot of techs, really great. let's hope we do have monopoly on rubber and oil as well
I'd say we sign peace with Japan and try and
Greece a little more. We should take out Pharsalos and Delphi, only if we have a Cav army should we attempt to get Athens.our resources seem to give us a lot of techs, really great. let's hope we do have monopoly on rubber and oil as well
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
not sure if japan is willing to talk, but if so, get physics. we do need to hammer on greece as they're sure to get rifles soon.
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
Keep pounding greece.
I hear this in Rod Serling's voice.
I hear this in Rod Serling's voice.
2
Everyone is now in the Industrial Age. Sign peace with Japan and get Physics for 472 gold and 6 gold per turn.
IBT- Persia and Greece ally against us.
4
Dyes, Iron, and Saltpeter to Japan for Magnetism and 116 gold.
5
IBT- Greece and France sign peace. Japan and Persia sign peace.
6
IBT- Persia declares on Japan.
7
I see a Greek rifleman. Peace should come soon.
8
IBT- Alexander kills our knight army. A Persian immortal goes unnoticed and captures Antalya
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10
Get an MGL. Make a cav army, burn Pharsalos (the cav army resumes the pillaging at Athens.)
Everyone is now in the Industrial Age. Sign peace with Japan and get Physics for 472 gold and 6 gold per turn.
IBT- Persia and Greece ally against us.
4
Dyes, Iron, and Saltpeter to Japan for Magnetism and 116 gold.
5
IBT- Greece and France sign peace. Japan and Persia sign peace.
6
IBT- Persia declares on Japan.
7
I see a Greek rifleman. Peace should come soon.
8
IBT- Alexander kills our knight army. A Persian immortal goes unnoticed and captures Antalya
.10
Get an MGL. Make a cav army, burn Pharsalos (the cav army resumes the pillaging at Athens.)
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
@ viper - this is Eclectic, not Idiots. 
Need some advice:
Can bring France in against Greece for 25gpt, and she will throw in ToG for another 62gpt, total 87gpt. That is a little over half our income.
Or I can do a deal for ToG alone with Toku gor 70gpt. He is already at war with Greece again.
Or X-man will give us peace and ToG for 70gpt. He expects us to pay for peace?
Or Alex will make nice and throw in ToG for another 55gpt.
Only Alex's price represents a discount from base cost...
I am inclined to make the deal with Joan, keep pounding on the Greek infrastructure, keeping his trade routes broken and wrecking his economy but leaving his cities for Joan and Toku, while we build a real military for taking out Persia next. Don't see any reason for keeping Alex the culture monster alive.
BTW I am going to make peace with the X-man as soon as Anatalya is back in our hands. (Your display of self-flagellation was impressive vipr, but I am going to add one more I just spent most of the treasury putting muskets in the undefended towns)
We do have a small problem in the north at Knossos what with Greek cavalry appearing on the montains there.
Anyway, any suggestions?
I want to play this one tonight, so chime in all if you can, since I am going to be comitting our economy for the next 20 turns.
Can bring France in against Greece for 25gpt, and she will throw in ToG for another 62gpt, total 87gpt. That is a little over half our income.
Or I can do a deal for ToG alone with Toku gor 70gpt. He is already at war with Greece again.
Or X-man will give us peace and ToG for 70gpt. He expects us to pay for peace?
Or Alex will make nice and throw in ToG for another 55gpt.
Only Alex's price represents a discount from base cost...
I am inclined to make the deal with Joan, keep pounding on the Greek infrastructure, keeping his trade routes broken and wrecking his economy but leaving his cities for Joan and Toku, while we build a real military for taking out Persia next. Don't see any reason for keeping Alex the culture monster alive.
BTW I am going to make peace with the X-man as soon as Anatalya is back in our hands. (Your display of self-flagellation was impressive vipr, but I am going to add one more
I just spent most of the treasury putting muskets in the undefended towns)We do have a small problem in the north at Knossos what with Greek cavalry appearing on the montains there.
Anyway, any suggestions?
I want to play this one tonight, so chime in all if you can, since I am going to be comitting our economy for the next 20 turns.
ThERat
Deity
agree with this
sounds just right too. viper this is for you
anyway, I saw we really need to build up military again before we can pound others
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
yes, that is because we have a bunch of little towns doing 10 or 12spt. this must improve (in bede we trustThERat said:
). however, the only civ that has a chance to be a runaway is greece, we we must knock them down now or the difficulty level only increases. we have him by the throat, don't let up till he's broken.do the deals as you see fit, bede. however, i think we should be able to work out a way to get the x-man into the ia and grab his 1st tier tech as well as greece's via peace.
another consideration is revolting to republic to improve our gpt as well, before the deals are done.
Did the deal with Joan as writ.
On the the IT X-man went Industrial and pulled NAtionalism and upgraded the spear at Anatalya to a rifle. So built a force of elite cav and GS for a leader fishing expedition and took the town back losing one cav, but no leader.(Longbows in defense are deadly as the cav hit the gates hurting)
Healed up the MDI army and burned Delphi then built Segusio in a very aggressive spot. Probably a mistake.
Sent the cavalry army on a JEB Stuart ride around Greece wreaking havoc on their economy and resources. Corinth and Athens should be on the verge of starvation and the populations are dropping probably due to drafting.
On her way across Persia to get at Greece Joan got into a hissy fit with Xerxes so they are now at war. Japan is also at war with both. So we are officially on the side of the angels now.
Built up a force inthe north to make a move on Knossos which we may lsoe to a Japanese landing on the rubble spot. There are cavalry and muskets awating the worker horde which built some mountain mines hoping to squeeze some more shields....we need Steam.
Neither of the combatants will give up an IA tech for peace.
Whatever happens don't let Greece off the mat. Their best offense now are maces and LB's and the Japanese are killing off the ones that try to cross between Athens and Corinth. Let the cav army do its pillaging thing...Greece has a single tile island city off the coast, so when the time seems ripe we can go ahead and crush their mainland towns if we want. Nobody else can get to that last town for at least another couple hundred years.
We can make some lucrative deals with France if we want and maybe get Steam in exchange for some luxury goods.
g-man's notion of revolting to Republic makes sense.
On the the IT X-man went Industrial and pulled NAtionalism and upgraded the spear at Anatalya to a rifle. So built a force of elite cav and GS for a leader fishing expedition and took the town back losing one cav, but no leader.(Longbows in defense are deadly as the cav hit the gates hurting)
Healed up the MDI army and burned Delphi then built Segusio in a very aggressive spot. Probably a mistake.
Sent the cavalry army on a JEB Stuart ride around Greece wreaking havoc on their economy and resources. Corinth and Athens should be on the verge of starvation and the populations are dropping probably due to drafting.
On her way across Persia to get at Greece Joan got into a hissy fit with Xerxes so they are now at war. Japan is also at war with both. So we are officially on the side of the angels now.
Built up a force inthe north to make a move on Knossos which we may lsoe to a Japanese landing on the rubble spot. There are cavalry and muskets awating the worker horde which built some mountain mines hoping to squeeze some more shields....we need Steam.
Neither of the combatants will give up an IA tech for peace.
Whatever happens don't let Greece off the mat. Their best offense now are maces and LB's and the Japanese are killing off the ones that try to cross between Athens and Corinth. Let the cav army do its pillaging thing...Greece has a single tile island city off the coast, so when the time seems ripe we can go ahead and crush their mainland towns if we want. Nobody else can get to that last town for at least another couple hundred years.
We can make some lucrative deals with France if we want and maybe get Steam in exchange for some luxury goods.
g-man's notion of revolting to Republic makes sense.
ThERat
Deity
got it
ok, I will check whether can get joan deals esp for steam. will look into revolting
remember that once the last king is gone, they will disappear. does anyone remember how many king they have left? I know of certain 3 deaths until me last turn
ok, I will check whether can get joan deals esp for steam. will look into revolting
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
i wouldn't expect to get an IA tech for free via peace, but maybe we can buy it at reduced cost. nice turns bede
ThERat
Deity
save
Pre-Turn
going to settle by the lake, since the 2 japanese units are muskets
deals are a dream but in 4turns, the deal with japan ends and I think we can gain a tech there
MM a little bit
2 Rutupiae founded
IT renew peace with Japan
4 we need steam, so get it from Japan for salt, iron, dyes and 35gpt
we have 2 coal connected already and iron works at Lapurdum
get a leader in the west
raze Yokohama, then revolt. I am fed up of the low shields and economy
6 we are a republic and found Monguntiacum
trade iron to France for spices and 260g
make peace with persia
9 Raze Knossos
10 Raze Mycinea
Greeks are gassed, I don't know how many kings they have left, but can't be that many
2 settlers are on their way to claim the western tip where Knossos once stood
next turn a deal ends and then we have a lot of cash, nationalism is very expensive, we might consider a steal. I tried to rail to get 20spt or increase growth, we have far too few workers
west, settlers hidden under worker stack
Greek front
Pre-Turn
going to settle by the lake, since the 2 japanese units are muskets
deals are a dream but in 4turns, the deal with japan ends and I think we can gain a tech there
MM a little bit
2 Rutupiae founded
IT renew peace with Japan
4 we need steam, so get it from Japan for salt, iron, dyes and 35gpt
we have 2 coal connected already and iron works at Lapurdum
get a leader in the west
raze Yokohama, then revolt. I am fed up of the low shields and economy
6 we are a republic and found Monguntiacum
trade iron to France for spices and 260g
make peace with persia
9 Raze Knossos
10 Raze Mycinea
Greeks are gassed, I don't know how many kings they have left, but can't be that many
2 settlers are on their way to claim the western tip where Knossos once stood
next turn a deal ends and then we have a lot of cash, nationalism is very expensive, we might consider a steal. I tried to rail to get 20spt or increase growth, we have far too few workers
west, settlers hidden under worker stack
Greek front
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