Alexander - Biggest Warmonger?

[fmlizard]

Seriously, every time I play with Alexander, it turns into an orgy of war. He will pick a fight even if I have double troops and am on another continent (just a slow trickle of boats bringing hopelessly outmatched troops).

If he is a neighbor, its immediate beefing of the army, because no matter what, he declares as soon as our borders start to touch. He has gotten me sleeping in the past, but this last game, he rushed me as soon as we touched and not only did he not get any cities, but I spammed Swordsmen and overran Athens!

Has anyone ever been peaceful with him?

 

[atreas]

I managed it once, but it was a bit unfairly easy: I was on the other side of the planet, and next to him it was Isabella with a different religion - guess which two civs fought for about 4000 years!

 

[Willem]

Montezuma'a worse. At least with Alexander, if you are buddies with him he'll generally leave you alone. Monty will turn on you no matter how well you're getting along.

 

[Crighton]

Montezuma'a worse. At least with Alexander, if you are buddies with him he'll generally leave you alone. Monty will turn on you no matter how well you're getting along.

Too true.

So far my favorite Alex being pleased with me. Declaring war and losing two units then declaring peace and friendship. Moron.

 

[fmlizard]

Somehow, I won my first Prince game a couple weeks back with a group of death on one continent with me...Alexander, Tokugawa, and Kublai Khan as neighbors, with Mansa Musa sitting off to the side tech racing the bejesus out of me. I almost reset after seeing that draw, but I killed off Tokugawa, held off Khan and Alex, and won diplomatically with Mansa, and Cyrus and Washington on the other continent all friendly.

 

[mgdpublic]

I think Monty is the worst, followed by Tokugawa. Alexander maybe third.

 

[al_thor]

I agree with mgdpublic. I can't help but smile ruefully when I run into Monty during the map exploration stage. Hmmmmmm.....maybe I will put that city on a hill instead of the plains.

For second place, it's a toss-up between Alex & Toku. Toku is such an isolationist, never opening his borders, never trading techs or resource, you almost know he's itching for war. Alex, on the other hand, is much like Monty in that he will declare out of the blue, even if you are swapping resource & techs with him.

If I have both Monty and Alex as my immediate nieghbors, I will quit and re-start. Otherwise, it's too much war and I end up falling behind. It's one thing to war when YOU plan it, but quite another when you have two loose cannons on either side of you.

 

[tombeef]

I agree with above statements. I have managed peace with Alexander a couple times. Mintezuma is the worst, and then Tokugawa.

 

[mutax2003]

I don't think you need to quit when surrounded by aggressive AIs, instead you can see it as a challenge to improve your warmongering skills. In a sense, out-warmonger the warmongers. They will generally leave you alone if you have a larger/more advanced military, but eventually you will want to conquer more land for either domination or space race victory.

 

[atreas]

I think you forgot "Mr Military Power" of this game, the unbeatable (as counts to number of units) Napoleon, plus the other lunatic of the company, Genghis. It's not a trio, it's more like a basketball team (5 members).

 

[Yzman]

I never seem to have problems with Alexander. He is friends with me in most of my games.

 

[fmlizard]

It seems as if Tokugawa, because of his raging isolationism, is always an easy kill because he is usually very backward technically. I always find him invading me with samurai and maybe a smattering of knights when I have cavalry, cannons, and riflemen. He is always the tech laggard every game I play, probably because he never deals.

 

[numa]

yeah, togugawa is the worst of them for war but the easiest to kill off, in my opinion... i tend to kill him off before he gets samurai if i'm near him... alexander is where i usually have my problems... i tend to build up lots of units because of being near alexander alot when i started playing... can't say much for montezuma... i'm never usually near him if he's in the game...

plus, i don't think i've ever had a game where napoleon has been in it... it's not that i haven't played much... been playing since christmas and i can't recall him ever being in a game... kinda wierd... unless i have a bad memory (whihc it probably is, i guess)...

 

[VoidEvils]

Catherine is the "worst" in my eyes, in terms of her willingness to declare on friends and in the % of games(100% of the games I've had with her, so far).

The thing about Alex is that if he thinks he can possibly win a war at all, he'll declare, no matter what. He's a total opportunist. Monty is just kind of nuts, and is actually more predictable. Caesar I never really figured out(only 2 games with him, though...). And Toku is just kind of a jerk. Though usually he's really behind, so if you give him a couple of junk techs, he warms up pretty nicely, and you can often get a "brothers of faith" pretty quickly, and all of a sudden he's a regular party animal.

 

[Guerra]

I've had Gandhi backstab me before. Man it was a shocker. We shared the same religion, we traded, open borders, etc etc. Not one thing to piss him off.

Maybe its cause my cities ate beef?


By the way, click "random personalities" it makes everything more interesting, so you don't know who is the warmonger and who isn't

 

[The Tyrant]

Seriously, every time I play with Alexander, it turns into an orgy of war.

Yeah, Alex is bad. I've even gone so far as to team up with Genghis to take out Alexander when it was just the three of us left, fairly evenly matched. I figured that if I had to face one of them at the end, I would rather it not be Alexander. He's a lot like Monty, but more dangerous in the end game.

 

[Bezhukov]

The most recent GOTM involved playing Gandhi next to Alex. I befriended him and allowed him to beat up all my enemies for me, although since he lacked metals, it would have probably been better to just put him out of his misery early.

My lone immortal win involved an alliance between myself as the Incas with both Monty and Alex, as I vultured several cities as they beat up Isabella and Mansa. It got a little silly at the end, as they had more than enough units to overrun me, and yet friendly relations allowed me to steal all their tiles culturally.

Aggressive civs have a clock based on number of units, and when the alarm goes off, they will attack someone. There are measures available to make sure that someone isn't you.

 

[SteveU]

plus, i don't think i've ever had a game where napoleon has been in it... it's not that i haven't played much... been playing since christmas and i can't recall him ever being in a game...

Seldom saw him. But Im plaing this game almost next to him. absolutely mad guy, he just declared war, the third time, with Fregats vs my Destroyers, Catapults + Riflemans vs my Cossacks + Artillery + Infs. Two previous wars Bonapart refused to talk for ages (literally ), we are in war almost all the game since the first encounter.

 

[luckynick]

There are measures available to make sure that someone isn't you.

agree.

But basically you will need something to bribe them into going to war against someone else, so on you obviously need to get alphabet.

It may be problematic since with such neibourgh you almost always want to develop military techs first.

 

[Brighteye]

Alex: I hate that damned Brighteye most. We can be the best of friends and he'll suddenly attack me. Why, only last game I had +8 modifier with him and he still attacked me.
Catherine: Yes, he's terrible. We had a wonderful relationship going on only a few games ago, and out of the blue he overran me.
Monty: hahahahaha I declared on him first, as soon as we met. I wasn't going to be fooled by the evil heathen!
Catherine: And he killed your whole backwards empire with 5 tanks
Monty: hahahahaha but we shed so much blooood for the blood God. Teeheehee. hahahahhaaaaaaa...

Bezhukov: Well, it's always the same with these aggressive leaders. They reach a unit limit and then they're going to war with someone. You just have to try to make sure it's not you.

Alex: Well, maybe next time I'll try having a relationship with him like Catherine did. But it didn't help her.