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All Quiet on the Civ Front

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Duuk, Jun 6, 2018.

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  1. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    In an unfortunate turn of events, the only Chinese classic that my local library has is Outlaws of the Marsh (aka Water Margin). Not even Journey to the West. :( It also has no English-language copies of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. I'm very disappointed with its selection of foreign literature, especially given how multicultural and educated my area tends to be. :(
     
  2. JFD

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    It doesn't hurt to try out a modded alt leader, really - testing can prove otherwise of first impressions. And there is no obligation to keep them installed if you decide they're not fit to your taste. In addition, if you do think they're OP, and provided you're reasonable in it, mod authors are often receptive of balance feedback. I have three Roman alts: Nero, Commodus, and Antoninus Pius, and Sukritact has Hadrian. Feel free to take a look, or to test and make your judgement from there. You're only denying yourself a portion of the dedicated civ fanbase and the opportunity to freshen up your games if you won't even consider taking a look at what's generally available.
     
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  3. sukritact

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    I personally first read it through a Thai translation of a Korean comic series. It's very big in East and Southeast Asia, which is why I'm always really annoyed that the Art of War always takes all the limelight.

    As a fun fact, the Cho-Ko-Nu is named after a figure from the period, Zhuge Liang, Chancellor of Shu Han (he supposedly made major improvements to the repeating crossbow) so it'd be an awesome opportunity to bring back the unit. I miss my two attack crossbowmen.

    I personally really want old-stuttering "I never wanted to be Emperor" Claudius. Now THAT'D be an unexpected and different take on Rome.
     
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  4. Disgustipated

    Disgustipated Warlord

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    I imagine where you live mostly had literature on Cardassians and Bajorans. :p :)

    I have to get all my information from Wikipedia. :)
     
  5. c4c6

    c4c6 Chieftain

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    One would think, that mini disasters could fit quite good to the 'Rise & Fall' theme ... but no, (too) many players like rise & rise & rise again ... surprisingly even some grumble something along 'late game boring etc.' ...

    Psychological dilemma.


    All Quiet on the Civ Front? Found (again) in the morning some dynamite: Nice Soundtrack

    Btw. I suppose, railroads give good incentives to rework Industrial Zones and boni for growing (SOME!) cities really big ... ("@playing tall")
     
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  6. Arent11

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    Honestly - please move industrial zones to industrial age to create actually different stages of the game. Opening - cheap units, small cities suffering from diseases and low food, middle game - first infrastructure, farms, roads(!), walls, late game - industrial revolution, railroads, factories, large cities, high tech units.

    Right now it's just no fun playing beyond a certain stage.
     
  7. RohirrimElf

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    Your idea is interesting. But if you make industrial zones late game. They become less effective. And you might be better off to save the production on industrial zones for other stuff. I would keep the industrial zone as it is and add a special district. You could build like once on every 3/4 cities that focusses on electricity/steam power.

    Switch power plant to this district and give the industrial zone’s third building something related to industrial revolution or mideaval era. Create an early and late game district for production. So there is a bit more focus on late game.

    Same could be done for markets. Like make a district that focusses more on wall street or big corporations. Or let it work in synergy with the player who has a dominance on a single trade resource.
     
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  8. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    The cyclical epic is the height of literature. ;)
     
  9. pokiehl

    pokiehl Chieftain

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    So beyond the big stuff like new civs or World Congress, what little things are you guys hoping for? I am clamoring for new map types and new luxuries.

    I also want more flavor with diplomacy, as in Civ 5. I saw a post on Reddit a while ago, a Civ 5 screenshot of Gajah Mada asking the player to denounce another leader. I completely forgot about little stuff like that, and I'd love for it to make a return. I remember that forcing interesting choices -- well, do I denounce this guy even though I don't have a problem with him, or do I say no and risk souring my friendship? Etc. Little things like that will make Civ 6 feel even more alive, IMO.

    Even the minor stuff, like a leader popping up just to insult you - "Well well, if it isn't my favorite city-state..."
     
  10. Kimiimaro

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    Don't know if it's already been added, but possibility to actively help City-State in war when it's attacked would be nice. Also, wonder pictures in the timeline. Natural wonders already have these.
     
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  11. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Why is FDR controversial? Because of his New Deal? or winning four terms?

    If we get another Roman leader, they better have a beard and look different from the in-game Trajan.

    Who do you want as an alt leader for Japan? I'm guessing they would go with a later shogun, like Tokugawa Ieyasu. Toyotomi Hideyoshi in the game would piss off Korean players for sure....
     
  12. Kimiimaro

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    I'd say Japanese internment camps are quite controversial.

    Marcus Aurelius is a great choice with a beard.
     
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    Cerilis Not Warlord

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    Why not that female leader from one of the... spin-offs? or so? Who was that again? :confused:

    Edit: Right, right... it was Himiko in Civ Rev2.
     
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  14. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    That's probably Himiko. She's from way before the time of Hojo Tokimune. Only the Chinese histories at that time mentioned her. She isn't present in the Japanese histories. I don't think Japan has many great choices for a female leader. There were at least 8 Empress regnants in Japan's traditional history, but Firaxis hasn't used any Emperor/or Empress in the games so far (probably because it would offend certain people in Japan).
     
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    Cerilis Not Warlord

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    I mean, an ancient Japanese leader could be interesting. But then again, Japan isnt really a civ in need of a second leader. ^^"
     
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    Yes because none of the other civilization leaders in the game ever did anything remotely bad. Genghis was just a big teddy bear (though that's how his picture looks). :)

    Internment camps were pretty despicable, but not that controversial. Dropping the A bomb was far worse, though that was Truman. Most likely FDR would have did it as well. I'd say he's more controversial for being a socialist/commie. I'm kidding of course. But many economists think his New Deal actually prolonged the great depression, and I am in that camp as well. I feel he's an overrated President.
     
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    New Deal. Winning four terms. Stacking the courts. Japanese internment camps. Unprecedented expansion of executive power. Etc.

    So...another vote for Severus Septimius? :p Can't promise he'll look different from Hannibal Barca, though. :p

    What about an onna-bugeisha like Tomoe Gozen? She didn't unify Japan, of course, but she wouldn't be the first non-leader to lead a civ--she arguably had more political power than Gandhi at any rate. It would be a weird choice, but it would be an option if Firaxis wants to stick with samurai.

    I concur. Hojo represents his civ well.

    I think it's a difficult thing to judge because we have the benefit of hindsight. It did end the war and it may have saved lives, given the Japanese commitment to fight to the end. I'm not arguing that it was right, mind you; I'm arguing that it's a complicated decision that it's all too easy to pass summary judgments on seventy years later.

    Agreed.
     
  18. Kimiimaro

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    Guys, a question about roads. Do you prefer roads being created when a trade route is sent, or roads having to be built like it was in Civ V?
     
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    Both :D I'd rather engineers have 5 road charges and have 2 "other" charges. Otherwise, I'm happy with trade routes making roads.
     
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  20. RohirrimElf

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    Most of the times i prefer the civ 6 system by traders. But on my latest England game i had a war with Russia. And to reach my +4 production highest trade route city on the other side of the continent. It had to straight trough a desert which could he raided on a large chunk of land. I would like to direct my route a bit more for savety. Or because it might look ugly.
     
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