All The World's A Stage
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KING OF MEESE
Papus maximus approves. Great job on a timely update, Warman!
To All of the Catholic Nations of the world:
His Holiness looks forward to cooperation with the Jesuits and the increase in Catholic numbers in all of your countries.
To All of the Catholic Nations of the world:
His Holiness looks forward to cooperation with the Jesuits and the increase in Catholic numbers in all of your countries.
Tree151
Warlord
To - Crimea
From - Russia
"Why have you chosen to make this war a holy war? We have explained that we have nothing against Islam or any other religions. Those who fight us are our enemies, and those who fight with us are our allies, it is simple, and Crimea has clearly chosen it's side. Now we just have to see how the tale goes."
From - Russia
"Why have you chosen to make this war a holy war? We have explained that we have nothing against Islam or any other religions. Those who fight us are our enemies, and those who fight with us are our allies, it is simple, and Crimea has clearly chosen it's side. Now we just have to see how the tale goes."
Last Praetoria
Chieftain
From: High Chief Susenyos of the Ethiopian Federation,
To: Padishah Ahmet I of the Ottoman Empire
Yet again your powerful armies and superior weapons have failed you Ahmet. However, I am no fool and neither are my chiefs. The Ethiopian warriors will fight to the death but they will be slaughtered eventually. We do not have the resources to fight such a powerful enemy. A council of chiefs has met to discuss the future of our nation. We would ask for peace but we are wary that the cost may be just as detrimental as this war. If you would grant us peace and freedom we would be most gracious to you Padishah. But you have the upper-hand and no reason to grant such a generous offer. We propose the following deals in the hope that we may save our nation:
1)
-The Ethiopian Federation joins the Ottoman Alliance,
-opens itself to trade from only approved sources,
-cedes the lands lost along the coast to the Ottoman Empire,
-we do not pay tribute as the income of Ethiopia can not support such payment
2)
-The Ethiopian Federation becomes a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire in regards to international governing,
-it retains its own internal government but will accept some policy changes,
-the lands along the coast are returned to Ethiopia and in return the country adopts Islam as the national religion and arabic as the official government language,
-the vassal state of Adal is annexed by Ethiopia and, as a result of the economic growth, Ethiopia can afford to pay tribute to the Ottoman Empire
The Ethiopians await your response. We wish to ensure our future and make ourselves into a powerful enough nation that we may provide the Ottoman Empire with substantial aid in years to come.
To: Padishah Ahmet I of the Ottoman Empire
Yet again your powerful armies and superior weapons have failed you Ahmet. However, I am no fool and neither are my chiefs. The Ethiopian warriors will fight to the death but they will be slaughtered eventually. We do not have the resources to fight such a powerful enemy. A council of chiefs has met to discuss the future of our nation. We would ask for peace but we are wary that the cost may be just as detrimental as this war. If you would grant us peace and freedom we would be most gracious to you Padishah. But you have the upper-hand and no reason to grant such a generous offer. We propose the following deals in the hope that we may save our nation:
1)
-The Ethiopian Federation joins the Ottoman Alliance,
-opens itself to trade from only approved sources,
-cedes the lands lost along the coast to the Ottoman Empire,
-we do not pay tribute as the income of Ethiopia can not support such payment
2)
-The Ethiopian Federation becomes a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire in regards to international governing,
-it retains its own internal government but will accept some policy changes,
-the lands along the coast are returned to Ethiopia and in return the country adopts Islam as the national religion and arabic as the official government language,
-the vassal state of Adal is annexed by Ethiopia and, as a result of the economic growth, Ethiopia can afford to pay tribute to the Ottoman Empire
The Ethiopians await your response. We wish to ensure our future and make ourselves into a powerful enough nation that we may provide the Ottoman Empire with substantial aid in years to come.
To: Russia
From: Sweden
We have defeated your forces on the field of battle. It is clear the age of Russian imperialism over Scandinavia has ended. Remove any and all troops from Scandinavian lands and drop any and all claims on Scandinavian lands and we can have peace. Refuse, and suffer more defeat and humiliation.
From: Sweden
We have defeated your forces on the field of battle. It is clear the age of Russian imperialism over Scandinavia has ended. Remove any and all troops from Scandinavian lands and drop any and all claims on Scandinavian lands and we can have peace. Refuse, and suffer more defeat and humiliation.
Tree151
Warlord
To - Sweden
From - Russia
"Didn't you slaughter the Russian troops already, after they surrendered? Then I ask where are those Russian troops on Scandinavian soil. If it's a ceasefire you propose, then we may come to an agreement, although we may only accept a ceasefire with no extraordinary terms on Russia. It will be temporary, but if you wish to come to peace, then we may see how we may achieve it. If you continue to press Russia, though, you will get nothing but steel and bullets."
From - Russia
"Didn't you slaughter the Russian troops already, after they surrendered? Then I ask where are those Russian troops on Scandinavian soil. If it's a ceasefire you propose, then we may come to an agreement, although we may only accept a ceasefire with no extraordinary terms on Russia. It will be temporary, but if you wish to come to peace, then we may see how we may achieve it. If you continue to press Russia, though, you will get nothing but steel and bullets."
To: Russia
From: Sweden
Indeed we did kill the Russian troops. We do not have the desire to imprison them nor the desire to transport them back to Russia so that they may attack us again in the future. You did not pay the ransom, so they were dealt with.
As for our terms, we mean that Russia will never move troops onto Scandinavian lands ever again, drop all claims on Scandinavia, and that is all. We see this as reasonable, but if you refuse peace there is nothing we can do but continue to resist and kill more Russians.
From: Sweden
Indeed we did kill the Russian troops. We do not have the desire to imprison them nor the desire to transport them back to Russia so that they may attack us again in the future. You did not pay the ransom, so they were dealt with.
As for our terms, we mean that Russia will never move troops onto Scandinavian lands ever again, drop all claims on Scandinavia, and that is all. We see this as reasonable, but if you refuse peace there is nothing we can do but continue to resist and kill more Russians.
The colony is simply too far and isolated to really hold onto.
it is simply too far away at this time for them to reach without relying on the Portuguese port in Sumatra.[your explorers weren't aware of Portuguese Jakarta at the time]
Let me put it this way, had you actually attacked Dai Vet there is an incredibly large chance someone would have made a coup attempt back home. In his infinite wisdom the Emperor decided to keep his friends close and his enemies closer.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
Out of Character
Your message wasn't Out of Character nor Mod Directed. Therefore, I reserve the right to blackmail you with this message.
I know this may sound foolish, but can you alter the update on the premise I did attack Dai Viet and order the colony attempt? It's what I would have done.
Last Praetoria
Chieftain
From Ethiopia,
To Ottoman Empire:
Then we shall fight to the death and the Adal shall inherit a wasteland
To Ottoman Empire:
Then we shall fight to the death and the Adal shall inherit a wasteland
You can't just overturn the mod's decisions in an update. I know you would have like to done this because of that, but hindsight is 20/20 you know.
Saying that the Emperor (who I am supposed to be playing) made a certain decision is god-moding. This sort of thing constitutes an exception.
Okay, let me put it this way, if some country declared war on you, yet Warman followed your orders to the dot, and you got your colonies and stuff, yet that region bordering your hostile country got overrun, what then? Except, in your case, that region, and several other regions, is threatening to rebel and declare war on you, and had Warman not directed the resources towards pacifying the rebels, you might as well had a massive rebellion on your hands. Personally, I prefer a functioning nation (if barely) over a few minor conquests and colonies.
Kraznaya
Princeps
NESing by its very nature cannot have godmodding, since the mod does not have his own country or interest within the game.
If the mod had (not that Warman would sink so low) made you declare war on Poland for no reason, that would be godmoding. In this case, it is that he thouht it would be the most reasonable option when it it wasn't.
In the event of a hostile invasion, the default move for mods unless there is a reasonable reason why not is "repel the invaders". However, it is an actual decision whether to stay at home to deal with the rebels or not.
It is understandable to think some might, but in situations when it is clear what a player would do it is unreasonable to override them.
Tree151
Warlord
To - Sweden
From - Russia
"Only shows how savage your methods are, slaughering them even when they surrendered. We propose peace, and that is all. If you do not attack Russia, then we will not attack Scandinavia."
From - Russia
"Only shows how savage your methods are, slaughering them even when they surrendered. We propose peace, and that is all. If you do not attack Russia, then we will not attack Scandinavia."
To: Russia
From: Sweden
If you drop all claims on Scandinavia and no longer put troops on Scandinavian soil, then we will accept peace. We don't see how unreasonable these demands are unless Russia is only waiting to attack us again.
From: Sweden
If you drop all claims on Scandinavia and no longer put troops on Scandinavian soil, then we will accept peace. We don't see how unreasonable these demands are unless Russia is only waiting to attack us again.
