Almost Vanilla - Mini Mafia

[Visorslash]

zack surviving n1 = always mafia

ldo

 

[Zack]

false.schrute

 

[Zack]

Visorslash survived n1, ergo mafia.

Vote: Visorslash

On the other hand, he wasn't lynched d1, ergo not mafia.

unvote

 

[Zack]

leggo my ergo

Vote: JohannaK

 

[DuffKilligan]

Vote Zack day 2 rituals are important.

now unvote to avoid being a jerk.

Vote spaceman

 

[spaceman98]

For a moment there I believed it.

Unless there is a SK on top of the mafia, but that'd be overkill, wouldn't it?

Well my first thought was vig. Though I have been in games this small with a mafia and an SK.

Sadly, it was not to be RIP in Pepperoni townie Kennigit.

Vote: spaceman

salty that your daykill failed?


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Al Sips and Visor are probably town because no one broke the three-way tie on their behalf (weak tell, but its something. After all, if they were scum, even making it a 4-way tie would have made things safer for them)

I have host confirmation that I'm town

That leaves:
1. Zack
4. DuffKilligan
5. JohannaK
9. atheotes

in a game this size, 2-3 mafia is normal, so we have at least a 50% chance of hitting mafia if lynching out of this group.

I'll vote Zack

lots of short joke posts vaguely reminds me of how he played in the Christmas game, when he was mafia.

 

[Zack]

lots of short joke posts vaguely remind me of literally every game of mafia i have ever played

Vote: spaceman

try harder with your fake analysis next time

 

[spaceman98]

I'm afraid not. For your entertainment, ladies and gentlment, I give you, Zack's posts in jumping mafia on day 2, where he was town:

Who the hell blocked me?

Protect the power role by making him vanilla?

What, you already know Jarrema's alignment?

Vote: Al Sipsclar has been rubbing me the wrong way.

pretty sure that was only for the draft

Why are you so gung-ho about going after people who voted Jarrema?

And yet you haven't said anything against me, when I'm the one who really set the whole thing in motion. Almost like you're picking easy targets based on a perfect knowledge of Jarrema's alignment.

I've played Pick Your Poison games with this kind of draft before. I was even mafia in one of them. I know how it works.

Pretty different style.

See, I've tried harder!

That said, if anyone has a better case, then I'll jump on it, since cases based on this game are always better than cases based on meta, since people's meta changes and fluctuates randomly.

But, with that disclaimer, given what I've seen so far, I still think Zack is the best case. This looks more like mafia-zack than town-zack, and setting the meta-analysis aside (can I get my meta-analysis published in the Journal of Zack Research) lots of low-content posts are a good way to avoid accusations of being inactive, while avoiding actually helping the town

 

[Zack]

That game wasn't a vanilla mini. I can't comment on nonexistent night actions. You want to talk meta? How about the most recent game instead of cherry-picked examples. Look at barto's game on the org. I was lynched d2 for making jokes (btw - literally every person on that wagon was scum) and it was wrong, just like every other time that case has been made to lynch me early. Everyone posting up to that point had only posted short jokes. Why single me out?

I always make jokes and I always will. It's my style and it has nothing to do with alignment. In a low posting game like this, with no actions and nothing to analyze, there was no recourse but jokes. It doesn't make me scum, it makes me Zack.

It does make you scum though

 

[spaceman98]

That game wasn't a vanilla mini. I can't comment on nonexistent night actions. You want to talk meta? How about the most recent game instead of cherry-picked examples. Look at barto's game on the org. I was lynched d2 for making jokes (btw - literally every person on that wagon was scum) and it was wrong, just like every other time that case has been made to lynch me early. Everyone posting up to that point had only posted short jokes. Why single me out?

I always make jokes and I always will. It's my style and it has nothing to do with alignment. In a low posting game like this, with no actions and nothing to analyze, there was no recourse but jokes. It doesn't make me scum, it makes me Zack.

It does make you scum though

I wasn't in that game so I can't speak to it.

In any case, just from this game's info, at least two of the four I listed are likely mafia. I've said why you stand out to me as the scummier of them. I freely admit that there could be better cases, but so far none have been forthcomming

I suppose from your perspective, IF you are town, at least two of

1. spaceman
4. DuffKilligan
5. JohannaK
9. atheotes

are mafia. Why am I the one?

 

[Zack]

First - "at least two"? Cmon we all know it is exactly two or the game wouldn't be balanced.

Immediately followed by "why am I the one" - don't you mean why you are part the at least two?

Your whole assertion that two people cannot be mafia because they were tied at eod is just bizarre. All your analysis so far rings hollow because it is empty. There's no substance. When has making jokes ever actually been revealed as a scumtell? It's a lazy way for scum and bad townies to mislynch without putting much thought into it. I have been lynched so many times as town for being silly or whatever. It does not happen when I am mafia. Consider why.

If anything my performance in the Christmas game from a while back is an anomaly. It's weird that you would make a case out of it. How exactly would you expect town Zack to have acted up to the point you made your big scumpost?

 

[Zack]

Seriously read that org game because it obliterates your entire absurd argument. I am sick and tired of people trying to suck the fun out of mafia. There is nothing wrong with making jokes and being light-hearted, especially this early. I don't understand why people have been trying to shame me for it for years. It's a game that's meant to be fun.

 

[spaceman98]

ack... Sorry Zack, I didn't intend my accusation to be personal. Please don't take it as such. I apologize

unvote

 

[Al Sipsclar]

Vote: Zack has been rubbing me the wrong way.

 

[atheotes]

Vote Zack day 2 rituals are important.

now unvote to avoid being a jerk.

Vote spaceman

Why spaceman? How is it different from voting for Zack.

Vote: DuffKilligan

 

[atheotes]

I am still undecided on Zack. He is posting a lot without actually saying anything.
But as he mentioned he did the same in the recently concluded org game.
for now it is only a FoS- Zack

 

[Mat93]

Have a vote tally:

Spaceman: 3 (Zack, DuffKilligan, Visorslash)
Zack: 2 (JohannaK, Al Sipsclar)
DuffKilligan: 1 (atheotes)
Unvoted: 1 (Spaceman)

About 8 hours and 40 mins left in the day.

 

[Visorslash]

Thats a pretty bonkers reaction there spaceman.

You vote Zack, he proves your argument wrong, you unvote from what seems to be the pressure he is applying to you and nothing to do with the content, and then you don't do anything else? Feels like you came in here with a plan to mislynch Zack and then when it backfired you jumped ship.

Just strange.

 

[JohannaK]

Woah, the things that happen while I'm not paying attention. My vote was mostly a placeholder but since I don't know what to do with it, I'll leave it there.

 

[Visorslash]

That's not really good enough. Surely you have an opinion on something. Vote for who you want to lynch.