Altered Maps V: The Molotov-Threadentropp Pact

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I want to know how British Labour is "socialist," how "classical liberalism with conservative tendencies" needs the qualifier, and how Moldova is "communist." Moreover, what does "other" include that couldn't fit into one of those other manufactured groups?

 

[Yared]

What is a religious democracy anyway? Theocracy?

IIRC:

*Christian values (no abortion, no gay marriage, etc);
*family-oriented policies;
*emphasis on human worth and individual responsibility;
*a care for community, welfare, social solidarity and that although everyone should care for themselves, humans are prone to making mistakes and the government should be there to help 'em;
*market forces should have some regulations but not too many;

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

Also, ^^^^this^^^^ might vary from party to party.

 

[choxorn]

IIRC:

*Christian values (no abortion, no gay marriage, etc);
*family-oriented policies;
*emphasis on human worth and individual responsibility;
*a care for community, welfare, social solidarity and that although everyone should care for themselves, humans are prone to making mistakes and the government should be there to help 'em;
*market forces should have some regulations but not too many;

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

Also, ^^^^this^^^^ might vary from party to party.

Basically, it's everything the Republican Party says they believe in.

 

[Yared]

Basically, it's everything the Republican Party says they believe in.

Are you sure about the 2 last?

 

[Quackers]

IIRC:

*Christian values (no abortion, no gay marriage, etc);
*family-oriented policies;
*emphasis on human worth and individual responsibility;
*a care for community, welfare, social solidarity and that although everyone should care for themselves, humans are prone to making mistakes and the government should be there to help 'em;
*market forces should have some regulations but not too many;

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

Also, ^^^^this^^^^ might vary from party to party.

That sounds like social conservatism.

Religious Democracy sounds like a certain religion has some jurisprudence in the running of the nation. Like an Islamic Republic: Iran. I suppose Ireland used to fall under this catergory but France and Germany? Iirc France is officially secular. Also it seems to be confusing the political machinary of nations, like democracy or dictatorship with idealogy like Socialism.

 

[choxorn]

Okay, the 4th, no, the 5th, yes.

 

[Yared]

That sounds like social conservatism.

Yeah, it is like social conservatism. The only difference (or add on), AFAIK, in policy making is that they are more progressive in terms of economy and fiscal matters.

(once again, correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[Shekwan]

Religious Democracy sounds like a certain religion has some jurisprudence in the running of the nation. Like an Islamic Republic: Iran. I suppose Ireland used to fall under this catergory but France and Germany? Iirc France is officially secular. Also it seems to be confusing the political machinary of nations, like democracy or dictatorship with idealogy like Socialism.

Here's some info on Christian Democrats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy

 

[Traitorfish]

That sounds like social conservatism.

Religious Democracy sounds like a certain religion has some jurisprudence in the running of the nation. Like an Islamic Republic: Iran. I suppose Ireland used to fall under this catergory but France and Germany? Iirc France is officially secular.

He said "Religious Democracy/Conservative"; the former is roughly analogous to the latter in those nations, such as France and Britain, lacking a significant history of explicitly Christian Democrat activity. In modern times, the name does imply certain subtle distinctions, but, in Europe, they tend to fall into the same area of the political spectrum, and tend to play a similar role in national politics.

Also it seems to be confusing the political machinary of nations, like democracy or dictatorship with idealogy like Socialism.

The map presents the ideology of the ruling party, rather than the nature of the political or economic institutions of any given state. In the case of "Christian Democrat/Conservative", it simply means that the ruling party is of such an ideology, not that the state is, by nature, religious. For example, Germany is currently under the leadership of the Christian Democratic Union, yet is a secular state, while Britain, which is (partially) possessing of an established Christian church lacks an explicitly "Christian" party among it's major parties, in government or without.

 

[aronnax]

Arbitrary, stupid, and just plain wrong descriptions of governments. Basically the only thing right about the map is the national borders.

Your opinion.

Well done map. Saved.

Is it? Thanks anyway.

Harsh!


@Aronnax:
You are of course right in that the Socialdemokraterna is the biggest single party in the parliament, although it's the coalition "Alliansen för Sverige" (Alliance for Sweden) that is in charge.
.....
Just wanted to point it out for everyone else, because the map is a little misleading.

Yeah, it is a very simple map with very narrow defination of "current" government.

Whats other? A coalition?

I wasn't sure what to put for Centrism, Monarchism, and Russian "Statism"

Some of the other maps on that site are quite dubious. For example, I believe you need to be 16 to drink alcohol in the Netherlands. And the legal status of cannabis is also quite overstated.

What other maps?

I want to know how British Labour is "socialist," how "classical liberalism with conservative tendencies" needs the qualifier, and how Moldova is "communist." Moreover, what does "other" include that couldn't fit into one of those other manufactured groups?

To be fair, while the Labour Party is not 100% socialist, they do come from very socialist roots and hold up to socialist values. Plus Wiki says that the Labour party is a member of the Party of European Socialists and the Socialist International. What else do I call them?

Moldova recently elected a communist government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_parliamentary_election,_July_2009

I suppose the "classical liberalism with conservative tendencies" was a bit of my own invention, but one can't just grouped them as a conservative government nor a Liberal one. They seem to be Socially Conservative but economically liberal.

 

[gangleri2001]

Per capita wine consumption:

Wine, wine, wine! Wine drinking cultures are the best! Germanic cultures and their obsession with beer suck (with the exception of german beers)!

 

[Yared]

The so called "vodka belt":

 

[gangleri2001]

Slavs and their vodka-drinking culture is also cool. Let's fight together these Germanic/Celtic pus sies who cannot stand the taste of any beverage above 10 degrees.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Slavs and their vodka-drinking culture is also cool. Let's fight together these Germanic/Celtic pus sies who cannot stand the taste of any beverage above 10 degrees.

You can take our lives, but you'll never take our whisky.

 

[Yared]

So it's okay when Slavs drink vodka but not when Germanics do it? How else is the average bloke gonna get laid!?

 

[gangleri2001]

By beverage-drinking culture I mean drunk on a daily basis. Do you drink whisky every meal?

 

[ParkCungHee]

By beverage-drinking culture I mean drunk on a daily basis. Do you drink whisky every meal?

We don't drink Beer at every meal either, we're not 12th century monks.

 

[Traitorfish]

By beverage-drinking culture I mean drunk on a daily basis. Do you drink whisky every meal?

Anyone who drinks vodka at every meal is either an alcoholic or a masochist.

 

[TheLastOne36]

The so called "vodka belt":

Italy, Greece an Romania make some vodka nowadays to.

 

[amadeus]

Moldova recently elected a communist government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_parliamentary_election,_July_2009

They must really pride themselves on being the poorest country in Europe.