Alternate History

[GigaNerd]

Unfortunately, what China didn't know was that the Aztecs had conquered the Mayans. They get attacked the minute they set shore on MesoAmerica!

The Ethiopians are cut off from trade resources, so the Republic of Congo decides it is time to attack. Nobody knows how, but soon the Ethiopian capital was under control of the ROC.

Meanwhile, the HGE raids the Celtic Americans. They lose half of there cities in Russia to them.

Back at India, Gandhi II is assasinated, and the empire has a new ruler named Arsoka. Turns out that he really sucks in politics.

The Japanese have not been important until now, when they go and repopulate the Aborigine land known as Tasmanai. Koritnam sees opportunity also, and they go settle on the Paradise Islands. Tensions are sparking between Koritnam and Japan.

In Josephus, a new religion has sprung up called Mormonism. Even though the faith was founded in Josephus, not many of the people have converted. But, the HGE adopts the new religion and morphs its laws and beliefs to match it. This ensures peace between Josephus and the HGE.

Part of Egypt has gone into rebellion, and most of the population leave to form a new civilization, known as the Maolinese, lead by there leader, Maolin the Great. Egypt is close to collapsing.

Jewish America has adopted slavery. They rename their religion Gump.

 

[mr_lewington]

i think we should stick to the realism factor. like things are getting quite unrealistic like how the native americans were supposedly conquering half the world, the native tribes never perceived the idea of a true empire and never ever united. also, east russia was by and large unknown. Like the worlds navys are traveling across the atlantic when they cant even travel in the middle of the mediterannian! it is fun to think of though

 

[mr_lewington]

ok now ill go, the Britons, led by th enew leader Edward, push out all remaining native americans from their colonial lands, the Briton lands are now Briton inhabited. The British lose contact with Russian part of empire and all civilization is ruined in NE Russia

 

[cybrxkhan]

The Japanese have not been important until now, when they go and repopulate the Aborigine land known as Tasmanai. Koritnam sees opportunity also, and they go settle on the Paradise Islands. Tensions are sparking between Koritnam and Japan.

this didn't happen at all, because Japan had already joined the Chinese republic-confederation! (which encompasses Central Asia, Northern India, Vietnam, all of SE Asia, China, Mongolia, Korea, and Japan!)


anyhow, once landing upon shore, the Chinese explorers were attacked, and had to retreat to their ships. taking out their flintlock muskets, they blasted the Aztecs to pieces, and fled onboard. sailing down South America, they made contact with a few more people, then returned home with the sad report.

nevertheless, they do tell of many great resources out there. the Emperor and Senate of the China Rep.-Confed. plan to send colonists one day.

 

[mr_lewington]

The Romans Meanwhile, Have Invaded Asia Minor and have created a defensive perimeter right at Antioch, fortifying the city with 1,256,057 men.
The British Establish the city York and are gaining a formidable prescense in the new world. The Chinese discover a new weapon, the flintlock 2 shot pistol. the year is 512 CE,AD

 

[cybrxkhan]

519 CE

Ten medium-size Chinese junks leave, headed eastwards. THeir goal - colonization of an area which will never be known as California.

During the long, hard sea voyage, three of the ships sink in a typhoon. But seven survive nevertheless, and make a colony at a site which will never be known as Los Angeles. The colony, founded on November 21, 519 CE, is named Huang'an. Having about 300 colonists, they make peace with the locals and set about daily life. Finally, after half a year, three of the ships return to China to bring the good news.


Meanwhile, in Egypt, political intrigue and betrayal abounds. The Empire is in shatters, and three clear factions arise - one based in Carthage controlling most of North Africa and Iberia, one based in the Nile Delta controling most of the Nile, and one based in Nubia controlling Southern Egypt. The Pharaoh is now a meaningless figurehead. Finally, in 522 CE, the Pharaoh, Sethmosis VIII, is forced to abdicate. Each of the three factions now claim their leader as the rightful Pharaoh. Rome supports the Nile faction, Josephus supports the Nubian faction, and the HGE supports the Carthaginian faction.


The rebellion of the Persians finally is sucessful, and in 523 CE, Josephus acknowledges Persia as an independent state. Persia, with its capital at Pasagardae, now controls the Iranian Plateau, parts of Bactria, and Mesopotamia. It immediately begins to centralize, and establish friendly relations with China and India.

 

[aronnax]

Let me change something Cybrx to make things more interesting.

However the Persians remenber the cruel oppression of the Chinese in the East. Never forgiving them a massive genocide occurs killing all ethnic Chinese, thousands flee as Persia cuts off all ties with the East between Europe and Asia. Central Asia which has been living off European Trade, collaspes and breaks away from China becoming fragments of states. In Australia, with the Aroboginal Empire destroyed, the Chinese-Indian soldiers leave it in the dust. The continent is now empty. The Japanese begin sucessful colonization of SEA, bring much of Eastern Indonesia and the Phillipines under Japanese Control. South India breaks free from civil war and establishes the State of Maroiup. Their friendly links with the weak, vunerable Malays in SEA brings the other half under their rule as vassals. Eygptian/Carthage Gaul Breaks loose of the HGE and sets an independent state of Gruieo. Italy breaks away and wars into several states. Britian loses contact with America when a civil war begin.

Finally, The Indians of the Northen Kerioule State wants to unite the Bengal Indians with them and war is soon declared on China. Japan takes this time to strike on Korea. This begins the War of...

 

[cybrxkhan]

For the last time - Japan is part of the Chinese Republic Confederation!

But lets just say they are a rebel group in the civil war.


Anyhow...

The Second Chinese Civil War begins in 530 CE, with India trying to support the Japanese faction. The Senate and Emperor try desperately to stop the situation, but cannot do anything. The Central Asian states agree to help their former master so long as China makes no claims on them. China agrees.

However, Maroiup (India) takes Northern India by 532 CE, much to the displeasure of the Sun (Talikman) and Trung (Vietnam) factions which controlled it. Chaos begins to take over, worsened as the RIBEN (japan) faction sucesfully takes Korea and parts of eastern China. The Trung and the Sun, realizing that the Republic-Confederation is collapsing, declare themselves as warlords. The Trung first quickly persuade the rest of SE Asia to join them, while the Sun continue battling the Indians in Kashmir and the Himalayas.

The Trung advance on the faction of Liu (South China), conquering it. The remaining two other factions, Wei (Northern China) and Mongolia, fearful of the Japanese, defect to the House of Trung by 541 CE.

Marioup and the House of Sun finally make a peace treaty in late 541 CE, where a border is established along Kashmir. Returning to the civil war, the House of Sun decides to join the House of Trung for fear of the Riben (Japan) faction.

The House of Trung (Vietnam) and the Riben are deadlocked in a war for control of all East Asia and for the rightful sucessor to the Chinese republic-confederation...

but meanwhile, the Chinese colony of Huang'an, the size of about 1 million peoples, is isolated from East Asia. Its leader, the lord Yi Jian, declares the Republic-Kingdom of Huangguo, which encompasses most of southern California...

East Asia, as of 550 CE...

 

[aronnax]

530AD

 

[cybrxkhan]

As the Chinese civil war drones on, so does the Egyptian civil war.

Carthage, now known as Spain, declares itself not part of the Egyptian Empire and renounces its claim on the throne of the Pharaoh. It now supports the delta faction against the Nubians.

Nubia is taken by the Nile Faction in 553 CE, and the Egyptian Empire is reunited after 31 years of civil war, albeit without Spain (Carthage). Led by the strong-willed and capable Khnumosis V, they are deeply resentful of Josephus, which allied itself with the Nubians. Persia and Rome are also resentful of Josephus.

Thereforth, Egypt, Persia, and Rome sign an alliance to defeat Josephus. On 558 CE, they declare war on Josephus. The three pronged attack takes the old and declining of Josephus too quickly.

Persia takes much of eastern Arabia, while Egypt takes East Africa and West Arabia, and Rome takes the northern Levant. Signing a peace treaty in 571 CE, Josephus is reduced to a meager territory around Judea and Israel.

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Meanwhie, in the Americas, the Chinese colony turned state of Huangguo expands, now having territory stretching from the Bay of San Francsico to the Rio Grande. It comes into contact with the Jewish State in the Americas in 555 CE, and the Aztec Empire in 557 CE. Wielding superior gun technology, the Aztecs and the Cuban Jews do not dare attack them.


Speaking of technology... meanwhile, in the Chinese civil war, another progress has been made in military technology. Li Huabing, a Japanese polymath who defected to the Vietnamese side after the Japanese killed his brother, manages to set off the first rocket in 574 CE. Thuogh not much of a weapon, it can cause much fear and destroy a small, but decent, number of men.

The House of Trung equips the primitive rocket to some of its artillery divisions, and has diasasterous effects on the Japanese army at the battle of Luogeng, Korea, in 581 CE. Taking the oppurtunity, the House of Trung arms more artillery divisions and even ships with the new primitive rockets. They launch an amphibious invasion of Japan. The Japanese fleet, however, is destroyed by a typhoon. The Emperor of the House of Trung, Yongdi III, takes this as a sign of the gods' approval.

Japan falls by 590 CE, and the Chinese republic-confederation is reestablished by the House of Trung after sixty years of brutal civil war. The Senate is also reestablished, and, in a measure to prevent any future civil wars, further policies in centralization are taken.

The effect of the civil war on the Chinese mindset was very clear. Before the war, many Chinese thuoght of themselves as citizens of their respective factions, not of the empire of a whole. But now, they see themselves as citizens of the empire of a whole.

 

[aronnax]

Religion Map

Dark Blue = Judaism
Pink = Christianity
Green = Islam
Orange = Hinduism
Light Green = Buddhism/Chinese Beliefs

Anyone finds it weird that the Jewish Religion is spread alone the same area of the actual Muslim Calpih

 

[aronnax]

Claimed Post
With Central Asia China gone, there was a power gap in the region, between the insane fighting, one group emerged top the Afgans. With their Capital in Kabul, their Rule extended from the Arabian Sea to the Capian. They adopted Judaism and become the middle man between Asia and Europe as the King was a cousin of the Persian Throne. From this they became rich and powerful, controlling goods from India and China. In Japan revolts and riots kicked the Chinese out of the their Island Empire, from that moment on, they adopted isolation, only contact between the colonies and the mainland.

In Europe during the major Civil war of China, many things happen to the Kingdoms that ruled. Spain, spilt into two by their Jewish and Christian sides descend into a civil war. Massive fighting takes place as Egypt supports the Jewish South and the HGE sends help and aid to the Christian North. Tensions increase as the Spanish Civil war goes on. In 523 AD 4 years after the war begin with many lives lost end in a stalemate however, tensions are as high as ever nearly exploding into a full blown out war. Meanwhile, Rome having beaten back Josephus takes anatonlia and becomes a well defended state secure, working together with Egypt agaisnt the HGE. Emperor Reigutte of HGE is meanwhile preparing a huge crusading army agaisnt the heretic Romans. Drawing support from Britian and France, The Crusade bound for Constantinople, leave two months are the Spanish Civil War. The Second War of the Medditerrean has begun when Eygpt declares war on the Germans and lands a massive invasion force in France. They Proceed to plow through the Alps as they Strike the German Capital of Salzburg. HGE, alarmed trys to call back the Crusading Force but it was too late. Trapped in his capital Reigutte IV, begins to try and live out the Siege of Salzburg. Meanwhile the Crusading Army marches throught the Balkans terrorizing all villages and towns. They meet up with the Byzantine Army and the Massive Battle of Belgrade starts. However, with superior horse Cavalry, thousands of Germans are shot dead routing back to HGE.

In Central Asia, many Turks flee from regime of Afganistan. Land in Anatonlia....

 

[cybrxkhan]

Anyone finds it weird that the Jewish Religion is spread alone the same area of the actual Muslim Calpih

yes. i do find it amusing.

 

[GigaNerd]

An Aborigine who survived the genocide, known as Steve Irwin, decides to head west to find somewhere profitable to live. He sails west, and he reaches Easter Island. The natives haven't destroyed eachother, 'cause this is an alternate history. They've grown into a decent, but lonely community. They are lead by their ruler Aldof Hilter. They are considering to expand their community to Chile. Steve Irwin sails off again and reaches the Galapagos Islands. There, he makes his home. To bad for him, because somebody knows he's there.....

Meanwhile, the ROC gains a new ruler. Well, two new rulers, actually. They are known as the Marion brothers. King Marion, and King Luigin. They are very good rulers, helping the local population instead of fighting pointless wars.

King Arsoka of India makes a terrible mistake. He insults the Chinese ruler, Emporer Zedongo, by calling him "Baldy". War starts between India and China.

An Ethiopian refugee by the name of Yara Zaqob, hearing of the rockets in Asia, imagines the idea of a big rocket that could blow up an entire city (AKA: Nukes), but he utterly knows that they don't have the technology for that kind of thing. He writes these plans on a scroll, and hides it in a Carthaginian synagouge, hoping that it will be found one day when they can be put to use.
So please, don't kill Carthage! Make sure it survives until the 1950s!

 

[cybrxkhan]

In Asia...

The Chinese begin attacks on India, with occasional raids on the nothern and eastern borders starting in 531 CE. However, a full scale invasion is launched in 533 CE, and, with the primitive rockets and superior guns, easily defeat the Indian armies. The Indians, knowing that they would lose, sue for peace. However, the then Emperor, Zhanzong, still enraged at the insult, refuses peace, and conquers North India. Finally, in 536 CE, he agrees for peace, and keeps North India. Because North India was previously part of China, the populace didn't have too many issues being assimilated. China then retained status as power in the east, a ridiculously strongly united coalition of states, eventually renaming the entire country as the United Federation of Chinese States in 540 CE (UFCS).


Meanwhile, in Africa, a new state has emerged - Swahililand, which appeared on the world stage around 500 as a minor player in the trans-Indian-Ocean trade route. However, with the ascension of King Alawma II in 539, the country was set to rule East Africa and overtake the Ethiopians. Despite being a Buddhist country (because of the Buddhist Missionaries sent by the UFCS state of Vietnam), Swahililand attacked Ethiopia and sucessfully overtook its southern half by 545.


Meanwhile, in the Americas, a Mayan rebellion begins against the Aztecs in 529 CE. They are supported by the Chinese colony-turned-state of Huangguo (based in California), and the Huangguoese even send them gun technology. With this, the Mayans sucessfully overthrow their Aztec oppressors, and convert form the violent Aztec form of Judaism to Buddhism/Chinese reliiogns. By the peace treaty of Teotihuacan in 542 CE, the reformed Mayan empire streches from Oaxaca to Panama, while the Aztecs have been reduced in their size to southern Mexico.

 

[mr_lewington]

Britain asserts its claim to north america and conquers modern day Canada and the East Coast of USA. Britain has also claimed most of Scandinavia. Britain begins friendly Diplomatic discussion with China to destroy their hated enemy rome. also, in the map a few posts above rome is shown to be like completely spilt. when did this happen? and why are british colonies blue?

 

[cybrxkhan]

^

( below is Not actual post on Alternating History!)

Rome did not split. Egypt was the one that split. And then there were some independence movements in its territory. In this history, the Germanic barbarians founded a few states.

 

[cybrxkhan]

To continue...

However, because of the long distance and weakness of the British power as comparable with other world powers such as China or Egypt, Britain has no choice but to once more grant the East American colonies independence.

Meanwhile, China rejects Britain's plea for help against Rome, because China was once Rome's great ally in World War I. China establishes true contact, meanwhile, with the Buddhist Swahili Empire in East Africa (as mentioned in my post above).

In 570 CE, the Chinese Emperor Guozong II and the Senate agree for an attack on Japan. Launching a massive amphibious assault on 573 CE, the Chinese only win because the Japanese fleet was, once more, destroyed by a typhoon. Taking over Japan, over half the populace die in the ensuing chaos, and Japan is completely assimilated back into the Chinese republic-confederation.

 

[mr_lewington]

dont mean to mess u up but why on the latest map does it look like teh new world british colonies split? far from it, they've gone on 2 own like half the new world

 

[aronnax]

I mentioned in previous post that the colonies lost contact with Britian during a civil war.

Cybrx, you cheerleading is a little bit irritating now. But anyway im going to touch all the aspects of the world.

572 AD, after the humilating defeat of the Indians by the Chinese in the "War of Words" Indian scientists were ordered to replicate the most advanced technologies of China, after Three years of experimenting, espionage and failure, they sucessfully created and improved a Chinese creation. The Rocket Gun, capable of firing up to 40 rockets at a time with better a more explosive gun powder. Hitched upon their elephants these things are almost invincible from a distance. They also copied a gun of similar standard to the Chinese ones. The Indian King, Yuiooplereu rejoiced at the outstanding breakthrough. Sadly he died a year later drawing plans for future warring in SEA. His son, Visguhuin VI took the throne. Tall, dashing and handsome many girls chased him, however only one girl could have her. Her name, was Queen Shanaini of Maroiup. The Southren Indian State and the Northen Indian State were united in marriage in 577AD.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East, another great empire was united. Pitched by the Eygptian Emperor and Persian King. It was decided that their children shall wed and the Great Empires of Jewishdom would be united. By 567AD, it was reconginzed. The great Jewish Caliph was reborn. After intimdating Josephus, the state gave up its soverignity and was added to the Caliph. The Jewish Spanish, also joined the Caliph, hoping protection from the North.

The remaining Japanese refugees flee to their colonies now building up the greatest fortification ever, they fortified themselves inside the city with a Drill IV Crossbowman.

Two new states arose in Eastern Europe, the first was Great O'land, and the second Mushshah. However they are under greater threat by the Turkish Barbarian Hordes. May they survive the coming years.

In America, the Mayan State was reformed and the Southen Half of the Empire revolted away, chasing the Aztecs to the North. The Jewish Americans remained silent.

Does anyone know what happen to the great Jewish Fleet that was suppose to fight the Buddhislam Union of WWI?