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Alternative history: Yugoslavia

Discussion in 'World History' started by innonimatu, May 3, 2013.

  1. Tee Kay

    Tee Kay Justice guaranteed

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    Those Slovaks near Novi Sad look a little bit lost.
     
  2. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    Hmm... Albanians are muslims? huh. I thought Bosniaks were the only ones there.
     
  3. Kyriakos

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    Albanians are catholic (north), muslim (center) and orthodox (south). Kosovo albanians are almost entirely muslim though.

    Edit: I was looking for a map of religious groups in Albania for 15 minutes, and did not find anything apart from a single bad-crafted national-sponsored one which had no percentages at all.

    I found this map, from orthodoxwiki, which is of Europe, and shows the situation in Albania too:

     
  4. Tee Kay

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    Albania has a Muslim majority, with a minority of Orthodox on the border with Greece and Catholics on the border of Montenegro. That being said, Albanians in general weren't very religious even in Ottoman times, and four decades of Hoxhaism means that Albania is currently one of the least religious country in the world, even though it is a full member of the Organisation of Islamic Conference.

    It's a bit like saying Spain is a Catholic country.
     
  5. JohannaK

    JohannaK Careless Whisperer

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    Oh, now I see it clear.
     
  6. NedimNapoleon

    NedimNapoleon Weird Little Human

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    Any country from the Eastern block in Europe isn't religious.
     
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    Albania was not technically part of the eastern (soviet) block. It was mostly associated with communist China. And for other reasons it lagged behind any other euro communist country.
     
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    Albania was a member of the Warsaw pact up until 1961 (Sino-Soviet split) and formally withdrew in 1968. Hoxha was insane. You wouldn't build a bunker for every 4 citizens....but on Hoxha you would, Hoxhaism not even once.
     
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    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    Don't forget the bit where he had his name carved into the side of a mountain.
     
  10. Tahuti

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    Poles and Lithuanians are generally deeply devout Catholics. More so than the French or Italians. Religion is quite strong in Armenia, Hungary, Russia and Romania as well.

    The most irreligious Eastern European countries would be Albania, Estonia, Czechia, former East-Germany and Azerbaijan. Especially the latter should be held as a shining example on how wrong Anti-Islam populists are on Islam.
     
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    I should probably clarify that Albania was religious at several points during this time period, and that the original map didn't clarify exactly what time it was from.
     
  12. Tee Kay

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    They are also Shi'as to boot.
     
  13. Tahuti

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    Yeah, but most Azerbaijanis are Shi'a Muslims like most Englishmen are COE: Despite formally "belonging" to a religion, its quite common for both to be implicit atheists for example. Turkey is often held as an example how a secular Muslim country with "Western" religious norms would be like, but Azerbaijan (along with Albania and Bosnia) is a much better example.
     
  14. Kyriakos

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    :)

    From wiki:

     
  15. innonimatu

    innonimatu Deity

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    It's amazing how much the serbians shoot their own foot in their relations with other nations. It's like they are the south germans of Europe or something.
     
  16. Lord Baal

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    What's truly incredible is that the Croatian independence movement voluntarily disbanded upon the creation of Yugoslavia, only to have its heads arrested - against the orders of the king, mind you - for sedition anyway. As if anything done before Croatia was part of Yugoslavia could be seditious.
     
  17. Kyriakos

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    By the way, i can only recommend this great Serbian comedy, called Rane (Wounds), which is about the Yugoslav war. An excellent and very funny movie :)


    Link to video.

    Unfortunately i was not able to find that Comrade Tito song from this film...

    Many Serbian movies are well-done, Time of the Gypsies is easily my favorite...
     
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    Yeah thats a great movie. Pinky and Schwab....lol

    English subs

    Link to video.
     
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    The scene with the (Serbian) grandma that imagines the Ustase running around is probably the funniest :)
     
  20. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    Sorry, double post...
     

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