American President Elimination Thread

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If anyone isn't familiar, every 24 hours you chose two items on the list- one you give a point to, and the other you take three points from. In this case it's American presidents.

Rules (as copied from another thread):
- You may vote roughly every 24 hours. You add one point to one city-state and take away three points from another.
- Posts with missing upvote or downvote are skipped. Only voting posts are allowed in this thread.
- You must write a reason for each upvote and downvote.
- Delete the previous voters comments, and indicate your comments in some way (bold, italicize, color, something that will draw attention)
- You may vote for the same thing multiple times, but it is recommended you spread your votes out

Eliminated:

Donald J. Trump

So to start with:

George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 21 (20 + 1) For holding the country together through the civil war and abolishing slavery
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 20
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 20
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 20
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17 (20 - 3) The Iraq war was a big mess and it's grounds for justification very flimsy
Barack Obama 20
Donald J. Trump 20
 
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George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 21
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 21 (+1 he was a visionary and was going to make a big change, sadly he was taken too early)
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 20
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 20
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 20
Donald J. Trump 17 (-3 because he is the worst human being)
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 21
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22 (+1 he was a visionary and was going to make a big change, sadly he was taken too early)
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 20
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 20
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 20
Donald J. Trump 14 (-3 because he is the worst human being)
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 21
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17 (-3 because he is best remembered for the watergate scandal and having to resign in the face of almost certain impeachment)
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 21 (+1 because of his successful pressuring of the USSR to force them into serious negotiations and subsequent rapprochement with Gorbachev marking an effective end to the Cold War)
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 20
Donald J. Trump 14
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 22 (21+1) Another easy choice. Even if ending slavery was not his primary reason for entering the Civil War, it was none the less an important issue for him.
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 20
Donald J. Trump 11 (14-3) He's an easy target, but it has to be done. The last 4 years have not been good.
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 20
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 22
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 20
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21 ( a first in USA politics, and gave rights and protections to minorities)
Donald J. Trump 8 ( -3 Because he can't handle social issues and took liberties from minorities away)
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17 ( - 3 because although it's harsh, a president who only lasted a month can't rank too highly)
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 22
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21 ( For the New Deal response to the depression and guiding the country through the World War)
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump 8
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 23 ( +1 Fair and honest)
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17
Gerald Ford 20
Jimmy Carter 20
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump 5 (-3 just like his support his points are going down)
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 23
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 17
Gerald Ford 21 (20+1) I guess I should show him some love as he was raised in Grand Rapids, MI!
Jimmy Carter 17 (20-3) things did not get well during his presidential years
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump 5
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24 (23 + 1) For managing to hold the country together through the civil war, and the abolition of slavery
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 20
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14 (17 - 3) for being best remembered for the watergate scandal, and having to resign in the face of almost certain impeachment
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump 5
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 21 (+1 Teddy bears are named after him and that is a win)
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump 2 ( -3 so close to reality)
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 17
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 22 (21+1) Very important figure in the The National Parks (America's Best Idea)
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 21
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
Donald J. Trump ELIMINATED (2-3) It had to be done. IMO not worthy of a second term, but we shall see.
 
George Washington 20
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 14 ( -3 ) can't place highly a president who was only in office for a month
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 22
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 20
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 22 ( +1) Because of his successful pressuring of the USSR to force them into serious negotiations and subsequent rapprochement with Gorbachev marking an effective end to the Cold War
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
 
George Washington 21 (20+1) Do I really need to say anything?
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 14
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 22
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17 (20-3) WIIILLLSSSSOOOONNN!!!!!* Just a horrible President.
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 22
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17

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George Washington 21
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 14
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 20
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 23 (22 + 1) For being a trust buster, not a fan of his imperialism tho
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 19 (22 - 3) Not a fan of Reaganomics
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17

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George Washington 21
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 11 (14-11) I agree with SMcM here. He did nothing in office, so he was by default one of the worst presidents in history.
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 21 (20+1) Really got unlucky due to trusting the wrong people and the corruption scandals, but his presidency was one that made monumental progress in civil rights.
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 23
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 20
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 19
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
 
George Washington 21
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 11
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 20
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 21
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 23
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 17 (20-3) Though certainly not to blame for the great depression. His policies certainly didn’t help!
Franklin D. Roosevelt 22 (21+1) Helped steer USA out of the great depression, and through World War II.
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 19
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
 
George Washington 21
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 11
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 17 -3 Rubbish name!
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 22 +1 Cool name!
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 23
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 17
Franklin D. Roosevelt 22
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 19
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 17
Barack Obama 21
 
At the rate this elimination game is going we might have to start adding presidents to the list!

George Washington 21
John Adams 20
Thomas Jefferson 20
James Madison 20
James Monroe 20
John Quincy Adams 20
Andrew Jackson 20
Martin Van Buren 20
William Henry Harrison 11
John Tyler 20
James Polk 20
Zachary Taylor 20
Millard Fillmore 20
Franklin Pierce 17
James Buchanan 20
Abraham Lincoln 24
Andrew Johnson 20
Ulysses S. Grant 22
Rutherford B. Hayes 20
James Garfield 20
Chester Arthur 20
Grover Cleveland 20
Benjamin Harrison 20
William McKinley 20
Theodore Roosevelt 24 (23+1) As a Green supporter, I have to give some love to him. Amongst other things he took time out of his busy schedule to spend time with the great John Muir.
William H. Taft 20
Woodrow Wilson 17
Warren Harding 20
Calvin Coolidge 20
Herbert Hoover 17
Franklin D. Roosevelt 22
Harry S. Truman 20
Dwight Eisenhower 20
John F. Kennedy 22
Lyndon Johnson 20
Richard Nixon 14
Gerald Ford 21
Jimmy Carter 17
Ronald Reagan 19
George H. W. Bush 20
William J. Clinton 20
George W. Bush 14 (17-3) When we look at the failure of the Afghanistan war let us never forget the one who started it!
Barack Obama 21


Previously eliminated: Donald Trump
 
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