Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
Anyone know where one can see the video of the american prisoners in Iraq? I know there are links out there.
American Prisoners
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Might want to add a disclaimer to that, there may be some nasty images and stuff that is not good for the weak of heart.
I haven't seen the video (in the process of downloading right now) but from what I've heard on TV, the content is graphic.
Shady
Why are you reading this?
i guess CNN just doesn't show it cuz they get shot in the forehead or something (apparently). I haven't seen it but am downloading right now.
Shady
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Oh and also a note....whoever did that is going down...nuremburg style.
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
Yeh, that's pretty sick. Don't watch that video if you don't like to see dead bodies.
It's a pity that the video abruptly ends during the PFC Miller interview; it was the interviews I really wanted to see.
It's a pity that the video abruptly ends during the PFC Miller interview; it was the interviews I really wanted to see.
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
BTW, thanks Shokan 
. Where did you get the link from?
. Where did you get the link from?
CurtSibling
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It's an all-round nasty fate for those troops.
Sadly, these are the risks we take with war.
I would like to say that the Iraqis will take our lead and treat their prisoners well too.
But I fear Saddam's henchmen are not the best of hosts...
Sadly, these are the risks we take with war.
I would like to say that the Iraqis will take our lead and treat their prisoners well too.
But I fear Saddam's henchmen are not the best of hosts...
I will not watch the video, on principle. On the other hand, I think these videos and photos necessary, as the Pentagon systematically denies Iraqi claims. After the Pentagon claimed liberation of Basra, for example, the Iraqis could only prove otherwise with broadcast TV images of the city under Iraqi control.
As for it being illegal to show images of PoWs, and the US government outrage about the images, I can't take that seriously after all the Iraqi PoW pictures and video released by the Pentagon, through embedded reporters.
I suppose Iraq could argue the justice of treating those PoWs in the same way that captured Afghanis are treated at the US "Interrogation Center" in Afghanistan, but I hope Iraq takes the high road with those men and women instead, and treats them well.
As for it being illegal to show images of PoWs, and the US government outrage about the images, I can't take that seriously after all the Iraqi PoW pictures and video released by the Pentagon, through embedded reporters.
I suppose Iraq could argue the justice of treating those PoWs in the same way that captured Afghanis are treated at the US "Interrogation Center" in Afghanistan, but I hope Iraq takes the high road with those men and women instead, and treats them well.
Shady
Why are you reading this?
No I'm not. Remember the guys convicted at the nuremburg trials either spent time in jail or were hung not because they were in on the holocaust but because they were accused of committing war crimes on the western front and initiating wars of agression and that whole deal.
My comment dealt with the war crime part. It's a war crime to shoot POWs and tie them up and all that and that video just reeks of the aftermath of brutality. So whoever is responsible for this will end up either dead, or in a war crimes trial as you will see a lot of iraqis after the war.
The main issue with the prisoners is that they were 'interviewed' and that it was broadcast on TV.
I would hope that Iraq would at least treat our POW's as well as the US is treating the ones from Afghanistan. They are at least cared for with regular meals and medical attention. Based upon the Gulf War in 1991, Iraq does not treat their POW's anywhere near this. Then, if you want to compare how the US is treating the current Iraqi POW's to how Iraq is treating the US POW's, there is clearly no 'high road' being taken by Iraq.
holy king
Deity
oh yes, those guys in guantanamo in their dog cages
must feel really good about getting regular meals
must feel really good about getting regular meals
Shady
Why are you reading this?
If I was an Iraqi soldiers I'd run to the U.S. side because the food is luxurious. German prisoners during WW2 also loved the life as POW's in america...although in russia hehe thats a quite different story
Some of them have been officially pronounced dead by "homicide", Duke. They were beaten too much. Others die by their untreated festering wounds, or exposure, or indeterminate causes. The facility is a torture chamber. Detailed accounts have been taken from those released, and the accounts match up very closely.
This is just the facility where people go who won't be disappeared, but will be released later to tell about it. I don't know about the other one.
The US should act the way they expect others to act. I want this because I want every nation acting under the same rules.
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About the TV broadcast of interviewed PoWs. I don't appreciate it. I think that the Iraqis couldn't resist proving the official Pentagon line a lie. Maybe if the Pentagon quits lying, the Iraqis will quit trying to disprove them. It did change something for the better, though: now, when the US is questioned about losing a plane or whatever, they say everything's "accounted for".
china444
Ain't no thang
We were watching CNN in school and they said they wouldnt show the heads, but they showed the bodies and the teacher had to turn it off because we are not allowed to see that according to the school board. 
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Warlord
I agree with you.
If the US doesn't want picture of American POW's, then don't show Iraqi POW's. Also, the Iraqis aren't gonna respect the Geneva Convention because they never signed it and their getting the hell bombed out of thm.
I got the link from a friend on the net....you know how the net works...
As far as not watching it on principle, *shrugs* I dont like to deny myself any and all information. I'd rather have watched the video, make my own conclusions about the subject and go from there. Otherwise, you can't make any comments on the video, cuz you wouldnt know what youre talking about.
Knowledge is power, no matter what that knowledge is.
As far as not watching it on principle, *shrugs* I dont like to deny myself any and all information. I'd rather have watched the video, make my own conclusions about the subject and go from there. Otherwise, you can't make any comments on the video, cuz you wouldnt know what youre talking about.
Knowledge is power, no matter what that knowledge is.
Greadius
:yeah:
Its still mind baffling to me that people can't tell the difference between Iraqi government shot, produced & broadcast films of POWs and those shot, produced & broadcast by CNN. Perhaps it is the lack of a non-governmental media that makes people assume that anything shown on TV is by government decree.
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