Anarres versus ERIKK PBEM

[Kevinicus]

The only country not smiling at you is greece xD

And the histograph shows a quite peculiar start for america. What happened there?

 

[ERIKK]

Originally posted by Kevinicus
The only country not smiling at you is greece xD

And the histograph shows a quite peculiar start for america. What happened there?

You can change this. I haven't changed it yet either. So I won't be smiling in his screen too.

We both did not settle the first turn. I expanded a little bit faster because Anarres was building a granary. After that Greece expanded a bit faster. But we end up almost equal in size and units. Anarres is ahead in population but I have one more city. I am ahead in science and a bit more productive and wealthy but Anarres is scientific and commercial and will catch up someday. Also Anarres has the hoplite and can choose when to have his GA. When he gets it he will take the lead in wealth and production I think...

 

[ERIKK]

MORE DIPLOMACY:

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anarres zegt:
the territory map thing
anarres zegt:
what do you want
ERIKK zegt:
your territory and some money
anarres zegt:
haha
ERIKK zegt:
just kidding
ERIKK zegt:
gimme your map and i'll show you mine, OK?
anarres zegt:
k

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anarres zegt:
erikk - have you got any tech that you are willing to trade?
ERIKK zegt:
No, but the AI has
anarres zegt:
hehe. no chance
ERIKK zegt:
how much money is involved?
anarres zegt:
ahhh
ERIKK zegt:
Your offer for what?
anarres zegt:
so you go techs u wanna trade?
ERIKK zegt:
which one?
ERIKK zegt:
map making?
ERIKK zegt:
i will trade it if you want it
anarres zegt:
no. others have that and philosiphy. have you got horsemen or polyethism?
anarres zegt:
or currency?
ERIKK zegt:
polytheism I have
anarres zegt:
i've got literature
ERIKK zegt:
me too
anarres zegt:
oh
ERIKK zegt:
well?
anarres zegt:
nothing to give you then
ERIKK zegt:
sure, research it yourself
anarres zegt:
i keep fogetting we are on cheiftain. i am doing my research as though on deity
ERIKK zegt:
I warned you earlier
ERIKK zegt:
you should speed research
anarres zegt:
erikk - you wanna trade polythism with me for money?
ERIKK zegt:
how much money is involved?
anarres zegt:
you tell me what you want for it.
anarres zegt:
i can research it in 7 turns
ERIKK zegt:
200 gold?
ERIKK zegt:
I accept per yrn deals too
ERIKK zegt:
turn
col zegt:
sent
anarres zegt:
how about 150 gold. lump sum
Melifluous zegt:
got it
ERIKK zegt:
170, 150 lump + 1 p/t + non agression pact
anarres zegt:
how about 150 lump sum and non-agression pact?
ERIKK zegt:
the braveheart battle is on right now, i am missing it!
ERIKK zegt:
deal
ERIKK zegt:
do it

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[ERIKK]

The world was totally surprised today by the great news from America. In the year 650 BC a great bronze statue was suddenly erected in the port of Philadelphia! As people flocked in, great wealth was generated. This extra money is much needed in the research race with Greece. Last years the French, Romans, Spanish and Ottomans have completed research projects of which the Greeks have profited. Our large research advantage has been decimeted. We have contributed to this ourselfs by dealing with the Greeks...

Meanwhile the production of the pyramids is still in good progress!

 

[ERIKK]

Statistics:

 

[anarres]

Greece finally decides to show the world it's might.

In one turn Veii is captured and Antium is destroyed. Two turns after that Rome itself swarms with Greek forces.

Rome's capital has now been relocated to it's last remaining city Cumae, which is unfortunately on a hill with Iron

 

[anarres]

And here is my F11 screen:

 

[ERIKK]

In 6 days we played 100 turns in a PBEM game! This needs a celebration. Lets smoke one more Anarres!

Back to the game: WAR!
We knew it! We knew the Greeks were a in disguise. The whole world is crying for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. The American people are asking the emperor to take action but he has a promise to keep Also: the emperor is a very peacefull man but if he has to use his growing number of swordsmen, he will!

Meanwhile our production and GNP is much higher while our annual income per capita only half of the Greeks Soon we will hook up more luxiouries! Also, our productivity is still higher...

For explanation of the F11 screen see: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37033&highlight=demographics

War! What is it good for? Greek atrocity in Antium:

 

[Kevinicus]

Tis a shame. Attacking the poor weak Romans :*(
I wonder how the other countries will react

 

[anarres]

hehe. Turn 100 sees the capture of Cumae, but the sneaky Romans have attempted to foil my genocide and sent a settler far away to found Neapolis.

No worries, only 5 or 6 turns away from my horsemen

After the capture of Cumae, I have declared war on the Zulu's. They were looking at me funny.

 

[ERIKK]

Originally posted by anarres
hehe. Turn 100 sees the capture of Cumae, but the sneaky Romans have attempted to foil my genocide and sent a settler far away to found Neapolis.

No worries, only 5 or 6 turns away from my horsemen

After the capture of Cumae, I have declared war on the Zulu's. They were looking at me funny.

Remember what happened too all the great dictators/tyrants trying to conquer the world!

America will keep their isolationistic policy for now... But tension is rising.

Greece should stop their wars immediately for the sake of world peace!

 

[anarres]

Well, Rome said something about my mother, and the Zulu's were looking dangerous with their barbaric culture and science. I had to stop them now before they got out of hand

IIRC, I didn't lose a single unit against the Romans

 

[col]

An informed source tells us that tensions are increasing in this game. Negotiations haven broken down and both sides have demanded that inspectors be brought in to verify the size of their
..... armies.

 

[anarres]

Here is some more diplomacy. I will sum up in the next post...

anarres says:
and the deal?
ERIKK says:
We should split up the world
anarres says:
I don't think so
anarres says:
...well, what is your offer
ERIKK says:
You should leave the Ottomans alone
anarres says:
You must be joking. You have the indians...
ERIKK says:
You have the romans zulu and french
anarres says:
you have the better long term prospects anyway
ERIKK says:
The spanisch should stay neutral
ERIKK says:
If you take the Ottomans, you will enter my zone of influence
ERIKK says:
The Ottomans and Indians are in my zone of influence
ERIKK says:
You may destroy the most Nothern Ottoman city if you like
ERIKK says:
if it is in your way
anarres says:
erikk - you are asking me to leave the ottoamns, but what are you offering in return?
col says:
hi mel
anarres says:
ottomans i think
ERIKK says:
The notern Ottoman city
Melifluous says:
hi all
Melifluous says:
Handball my arse...
ERIKK says:
lol
anarres says:
handball?
Melifluous says:
Man City vs Liverpool
anarres says:
erikk - that is not offering me anything. I can take the city anyway
col says:
@Mel Dad will not be happy
ERIKK says:
I just think you get too close to me if you take the Ottomans
ERIKK says:
I dont like that
Melifluous says:
If he coulda got his hand outta the way he deserved a medal...
Yeah I wasn't happy and I supoprt Man U...
anarres says:
hehe. my housemate is a scouser
Melifluous says:
Oh bad luck
anarres says:
erikk - offer me something then, like I offered you 150 gold not to take my settler
ERIKK says:
Conquer the zulus and the french and expand westward and eastwards and you have enough land to take
anarres says:
I can do it anyway
ERIKK says:
i give you wold map and you will see what I am talking about
anarres says:
I have the WM
ERIKK says:
not the entire world
ERIKK says:
i bet
anarres says:
all of it, including the land to the east
anarres says:
past the zulus
ERIKK says:
you dont have the west lands
anarres says:
with the spanish? yes I do
ERIKK says:
lots of room there
anarres says:
so what. you are not 'giving' it to me because it is neutral and I can get there first
anarres says:
no offense meant.
anarres says:
just that an offer requires you to give up something if I am expected to do the same
ERIKK says:
World map is an offer
anarres says:
hehe. i have it
ERIKK says:
i dont believ you have it all
anarres says:
the whole pangea, no islands though (if there are any)
anarres says:
i can see coast all round
ERIKK says:
okay 50 gold + WM then
ERIKK says:
50 gold + WM + non agression till turn 150
anarres says:
no way. sorry. non-agression is in your favour only atm
ERIKK says:
You are kidding
anarres says:
not really
anarres says:
i am happy to let it expire in 115
ERIKK says:
fine then
ERIKK says:
If I want I have a larger army than you in 1 turn.... You know that dont you?
anarres says:
don't worry erikk, i just meant that with the pyramids you have very good long term prospects.
anarres says:
non-agression just means you don't need to build an army
ERIKK says:
You have double my lands if you taske the Ottomans too!
anarres says:
I think thats the point
anarres says:
Is this not how civ goes?
ERIKK says:
Wait let me only take the two southern Ottoman cities and the Indian lands, the rest is yours
ERIKK says:
We can stay peacefull this way
ERIKK says:
take the offer
anarres says:
You will be too powerful soon.
anarres says:
I am worried, that's why I have to be agressive with the land taking.
anarres says:
But let me consider it.
ERIKK says:
Anyway those two cities are within 3 or 4 turns for a sword from my heartland....
anarres says:
If you take only the most sourthern ottoman city the deal is on.
ERIKK says:
I need to look at the map again
anarres says:
reload your last tuen, just don't do anything
ERIKK says:
hmmm.... i rather have the capital too, why are you so interested in that piece of land?
anarres says:
it is very nice. clear the units from the map and you can see it is on a very productive bit of land.
anarres says:
but of course, it also limits your expansion
ERIKK says:
I f I take instanbul, you can settle on one of the nothern hills and have half of those lands
ERIKK says:
and you have bursa too
ERIKK says:
You still have twice as much lands
ERIKK says:
looking at the wm
anarres says:
bursa will be destroyed. size 1
ERIKK says:
wait for it to grow
ERIKK says:
we will be close to each other from that moment on, maybe a new non agression pact?
anarres says:
back. how about:
1) Non-agression pact until 135
2) You take Istanbul
3) You do not settle any more land north of Istanbul until turn 135
4) I will not settle any lands south of Bursa until turn 135
ERIKK says:
OK

 

[anarres]

So, to recap:

1) Non-agression pact until 135
2) ERIKK takes Istanbul
3) ERIKK does not settle any more land north of Istanbul until turn 135
4) anarres will not settle any lands south of Bursa until turn 135

Here is a close up:

 

[anarres]

All three major Zulu cities are now under Greek control. The Zulus 'did a Rome' and managed to get a settler away. This is ok, since I just made peace with the Zulu for Construction, a worker, and lots of gold

Edit: Forgot to mention I have just declared war on France

 

[col]

World war is narrowly averted. Meanwhile the green meanies continue to sweep the board.

Will there be a blue rinse in response?

Watch this space.

 

[ERIKK]

The Ottoman-deal has given peace between America and Greece until turn 135 Here is a map of our war invested continent!

 

[Matrix]

Originally posted by anarres
Well, Rome said something about my mother

 

[Kevinicus]

Why the madness? Go go go Erikk!