Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as Playable Civilizations!

[HP_Ganesha]

very good! I love the Cavalera Simbol! The only fault is the LeaderHead... only static picture is down!...

 

[Shqype]

Thanks for posting your comments

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to properly create a 3D leaderhead, but there is a new civpack available called CIV Gold. In this civpack Albania is one of the 20 new featured civilizations, with leaders Gjergj Kastrioti and Teuta. Both of those leaderheads are 3D and animated, so they may be what you're looking for.

There is a link to CIV Gold in my signature. Please view the appropriate forum and tell us what you think

 

[Matrix1]

Thanks for posting your comments

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to properly create a 3D leaderhead, but there is a new civpack available called CIV Gold. In this civpack Albania is one of the 20 new featured civilizations, with leaders Gjergj Kastrioti and Teuta. Both of those leaderheads are 3D and animated, so they may be what you're looking for.

There is a link to CIV Gold in my signature. Please view the appropriate forum and tell us what you think

Hey there, im albo n im new member here, i have to say i just found this site, reason i was searching smthing in google and then suddenly i saw this forum and exactly this albanian mod, and i have to say i love it so congrats shqype great job, i liked the heros and cities too u included in ur list the ethnic alb cities. so absolutely great ! only one question i have, i tried to download it but couldnt play i donnu if there is something more i need or what ?
but i hope u guys could help me a little.. thanx btw as i said i really like it and its wonderfull so great job again to you Shqype

 

[Shqype]

Hey there, im albo n im new member here, i have to say i just found this site, reason i was searching smthing in google and then suddenly i saw this forum and exactly this albanian mod, and i have to say i love it so congrats shqype great job, i liked the heros and cities too u included in ur list the ethnic alb cities. so absolutely great ! only one question i have, i tried to download it but couldnt play i donnu if there is something more i need or what ?
but i hope u guys could help me a little.. thanx btw as i said i really like it and its wonderfull so great job again to you Shqype

Welcome to the Forums! Mirsevjen

This is a modification for the game CIVILIZATION 4, in order to test it out you need to have the full version of the game installed. I'm sure you can obtain a copy of the game, especially since the price went down.

 

[Italicus]

Download don't work...

 

[Shqype]

Download don't work...

I apologize for that. Soon I'll just upgrade to WARLORDS compatibility and post a new version ... if I get around to it

 

[EtniK]

Hi shqipe...
i went and bought the game just so that i can play the albo mode. i intalled the game and then tried to download the mod. i placed it at "sidmirescivilization4/modes" folder...and when i tried to uploaded under the advanced option of the game, it didnt show up. please tell me what am i doing wrong.
thank you.
gjithe te mirat.

 

[Drtad]

Make sure you extract it to C: Program Files/Firaxis Games/ Sid Meier's Civilization IV/Mods and not My Games/Civilization IV/Mods.

 

[Shqype]

Hi shqipe...
i went and bought the game just so that i can play the albo mode. i intalled the game and then tried to download the mod. i placed it at "sidmirescivilization4/modes" folder...and when i tried to uploaded under the advanced option of the game, it didnt show up. please tell me what am i doing wrong.
thank you.
gjithe te mirat.

Thanks shqype, it means a lot to me that I made a difference with my mod and you bought CIV 4 just to play it.

Let me know which version of CIV4 you're running and I'll help you out. If you have the base version of CIV 4, make sure you download the v1.61 patch to upgrade it to the latest version. If you have Warlords, then let me know, since I'm currently in the process of creating an update for it.

CIV4 v1.61 patch

Once you update, make sure you put the Illyria + Albania folder in your "C:\Documents and Settings\Shqype\My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\MODS" folder. Then when you start the game and go into "Advanced => Load a Mod" the Illyria + Albania mod should be there!

Enjoy and let me know what you think.

 

[EtniK]

thx for the help Drtad.... it finally worked.
Shqipe thx for the reply. i will check the updates later.
the mod was exellent...i played it for a little bit...but obviously not enough
although i dont understand why teuta is a different empire from the albanian one.
take care.

 

[Shqype]

thx for the help Drtad.... it finally worked.
Shqipe thx for the reply. i will check the updates later.
the mod was exellent...i played it for a little bit...but obviously not enough
although i dont understand why teuta is a different empire from the albanian one.
take care.

Only because I was creating two different flavors: the ancient version, which went into "The Ancient Mediterranean" Mod, where you can play as the Illyrians, and then the Albanians primarily for a Middle Ages Mod that I have planned.

If you have any problems or questions, let me know. Soon I'll be releasing a Kosova civilization as well!

 

[EtniK]

Very Well. Although I Wish There Was Like A Transfer Period From Teuta To Kastrioti. Where You Would Start With Teuta First Then As Time Went, The Leadership Would Transfer To Kastrioti And With That, The Names Of The City. Anyhow, Maybe Thats For Civ5.
I'll Be Looking For The Kosova Mod Too. Hopefully With More Add-ons Like The Kalorsi And More Music. Exellent Choice On The Music Too By The Way.
Good Luck!

 

[Italicus]

shqype can you reupload it?

 

[Shqype]

Sure thing sir, which version do you need?

 

[Italicus]

warlord 2.08 please...

 

[Bojann]

First cities of Skopje(Shkup) Bitola(Manastir) Ohrid(Oher) was never Albanian show me one site where the most of the population of Bitola or Ohrid are Albanians.

 

[Shqype]

Those are the 4 Albanian "vilayets" , or administrative divisions that the Turks split up Albanian populated lands into, during the reign of the Ottoman Empire. Keep in mind that at that time the surrounding Slavic states had their independence from the Ottoman Empire, but the Albanians were still under their rule. At 1878 at the Congress of Berlin the Great Powers of Europe decided to split up that land and award it to some of the Slavic states, namely Montenegro, which recieved a significant portion of northern Albania and had its original size doubled.

Keep in mind that the Albanian woman Mother Teresa was born in Shkup, where her Albanian parents raised her. Also keep in mind that despite Slavic colonization in those areas, Albanians still hold a significant population of Northern and Western Macedonia, since it remains part of their ancestral homeland.

 

[Bojann]

You can see on wikipedia that the vilayets of Bitola (manastir) was populated by Macedonians,Turks and small nambers of Greek and Albanians,and the city of Bitola never have more then 5% Albanians ever, you can find the demograpfics history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitola and take a look and todey there are 3% Albanians of total population of Bitola.

 

[Shqype]

You can see on wikipedia that the vilayets of Bitola (manastir) was populated by Macedonians,Turks and small nambers of Greek and Albanians,and the city of Bitola never have more then 5% Albanians ever, you can find the demograpfics history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitola and take a look and todey there are 3% Albanians of total population of Bitola.

Bojann, your numbers are flawed. First, you are talking about Manastir (Bitola) as a city, whereby in my post above it is mentioned as the name of a vilayet, or administrative division. In any case, even from that link you mentioned there is this:

On the other hand, two 19th century travelleres, Ami Boué and Von Hahn, advanced alternative theories. The former suggested that it derives from the Albanian word vittolja which means dove, on the basis that the place was inhabited by Albanian speaking populations before the Slavs, and that this is connected with the nearby mountain Peristeri, which means pigeon in Greek.

In 1864, Monastir became the center of an eyalet which included the towns of Monastir, Debar, Kicevo, Prilep, Elbasan, Korcha, Florina, Kastoria and Grevena

Diber, Elbasan, Korca, and Florina are especially densely Albanian populated areas.

Here is some information in general about the disunity caused by the divisive vilayets, which touches up on the importance of Manastiri:

Formidable barriers frustrated Albanian leaders' efforts to instill in their people an Albanian rather than an Ottoman identity. Divided into four vilayets, Albanians had no common geographical or political nerve center. The Albanians' religious differences forced nationalist leaders to give the national movement a purely secular character that alienated religious leaders. The most significant factor uniting the Albanians, their spoken language, lacked a standard literary form and even a standard alphabet. Each of the three available choices, the Latin, Cyrillic, and Arabic scripts, implied different political and religious orientations opposed by one or another element of the population. In 1878 there were no Albanian-language schools in the most developed of the Albanian-inhabited areas-- Gjirokastër, Berat, and Vlorë--where schools conducted classes either in Turkish or in Greek.

Albanian intellectuals in the late nineteenth century began devising a single, standard Albanian literary language and making demands that it be used in schools. In Constantinople in 1879, Sami Frasheri founded a cultural and educational organization, the Society for the Printing of Albanian Writings, whose membership comprised Muslim, Catholic, and Orthodox Albanians. Naim Frasheri, the most-renowned Albanian poet, joined the society and wrote and edited textbooks. Albanian émigrés in Bulgaria, Egypt, Italy, Romania, and the United States supported the society's work. The Greeks, who dominated the education of Orthodox Albanians, joined the Turks in suppressing the Albanians' culture, especially Albanian-language education. In 1886 the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople threatened to excommunicate anyone found reading or writing Albanian, and priests taught that God would not understand prayers uttered in Albanian.

The Ottoman Empire continued to crumble after the Congress of Berlin. The empire's financial troubles prevented Sultan Abdül Hamid II from reforming his military, and he resorted to repression to maintain order. The authorities strove without success to control the political situation in the empire's Albanian-populated lands, arresting suspected nationalist activists. When the sultan refused Albanian demands for unification of the four Albanian-populated vilayets, Albanian leaders reorganized the League of Prizren and incited uprisings that brought the Albanian-populated lands, especially Kosovo, to near anarchy. The imperial authorities again disbanded the League of Prizren in 1897, executed its president in 1902, and banned Albanian- language books and correspondence. In Macedonia, where Bulgarian-, Greek-, and Serbian-backed terrorists were fighting Ottoman authorities and one another for control, Muslim Albanians suffered attacks, and Albanian guerrilla groups retaliated. In 1906 Albanian leaders meeting in Bitola established the secret Committee for the Liberation of Albania. A year later, Albanian guerrillas assassinated Korçë's Greek Orthodox metropolitan.

In 1906 opposition groups in the Ottoman Empire emerged, one of which evolved into the Committee of Union and Progress, more commonly known as the Young Turks, which proposed restoring constitutional government in Constantinople, by revolution if necessary. In July 1908, a month after a Young Turk rebellion in Macedonia supported by an Albanian uprising in Kosovo and Macedonia escalated into widespread insurrection and mutiny within the imperial army, Sultan Abdül Hamid II agreed to demands by the Young Turks to restore constitutional rule. Many Albanians participated in the Young Turks uprising, hoping that it would gain their people autonomy within the empire. The Young Turks lifted the Ottoman ban on Albanian-language schools and on writing the Albanian language. As a consequence, Albanian intellectuals meeting in Bitola in 1908 chose the Latin alphabet as a standard script. The Young Turks, however, were set on maintaining the empire and not interested in making concessions to the myriad nationalist groups within its borders. After securing the abdication of Abdül Hamid II in April 1909, the new authorities levied taxes, outlawed guerrilla groups and nationalist societies, and attempted to extend Constantinople's control over the northern Albanian mountainmen. In addition, the Young Turks legalized the bastinado, or beating with a stick, even for misdemeanors, banned carrying rifles, and denied the existence of an Albanian nationality. The new government also appealed for Islamic solidarity to break the Albanians' unity and used the Muslim clergy to try to impose the Arabic alphabet.

The Albanians refused to submit to the Young Turks' campaign to "Ottomanize" them by force. New Albanian uprisings began in Kosovo and the northern mountains in early April 1910. Ottoman forces quashed these rebellions after three months, outlawed Albanian organizations, disarmed entire regions, and closed down schools and publications. Montenegro, preparing to grab Albanian-populated lands for itself, supported a 1911 uprising by the mountain tribes against the Young Turks regime that grew into a widespread revolt. Unable to control the Albanians by force, the Ottoman government granted concessions on schools, military recruitment, and taxation and sanctioned the use of the Latin script for the Albanian language. The government refused, however, to unite the four Albanian-inhabited vilayets.

There you go, my friend.

 

[Bojann]

yes if we are talking about Bitola(Manastir) vilayet you are correct but in the city of Bitola and Lerin(Florina) the Albanians are in small nambers ,in Korca and Elbasan you are right there are the largest part of population but we are not talking about vilayet we are tolking about the city of Bitola(Manastir) you can see demogapfics history on wikipedia and you will see.
Thanks