Ank07 - Plain Deity

[conehead234]

Preturn- looks good
IT-Ottomans and India sign peace. Vikings tell us to get out ok. Najran spear->spear. Anjar warrior->warrior.
1-Workers work. When our troops were kicked by the vikings the sent us back to our territory grr. Movements.
IT-Medina worker->warrior. Damascus warrior->warrior.
2- Disband our 2 scouts. Up lux so mecca does not riot.
IT-Vikings kick us back out. Mecca rax->warrior.
3-Try just sending the settler this time. Switch Damascus to rax.
IT- They do not kick the settler out.
4- Grr but now a viking warrior is blocking the way. Spot 6 american archers near viking territory by medina. I hope they are not for us. Switch Najran to rax. We will need the vet units when we decide to take on the vikings.
IT- egypt builds the great wall. Mecca warrior->warrior.
5-Settle Aden in the desert. The viking warrior is fortified.
IT- The viking warrior moves. Mecca warrior->warrior. Baghdad rax->Spear. Anjar warrior->warrior.
6-move settler north spots a fish.
IT-Iron is connected. Mecca warrior->sword.
7- Build an embassy with the vikings for 33 gold and they have No Iron hooked up yet. They are building the great library due in 25.
IT-Vikings tell us to get out again. Damascus rax->sword.
8-Settle Yamama.
IT-Vikings are building Sun Tzus.
9-workers work.
IT-India and spain sign peace. Mecca sword->sword.
10- Horses hooked up.

We have 7 warriors in Damascus the next player can upgrade them if he wants. We need lux. I believe that we should get about 15 swords and do a short war with the vikings to take the iron, silks, the horses. and the city they have to the west of us. I have a picture of the viking embassy if anyone wants it.

 

[Ankka]

Nice job cone.

Bad thing the Vikes have that city there...

Bede
pindicator
conehead234 - just played
Rik Meleet - UP!
Ankka

REMEMBER: 24h to post a got it, 48 total to complete the turns.

 

[Bede]

If we want to hurt the VIkings now is the time to do it. They will not prioritize iron, instead they build archers which upgrade to their UU, the 'zerk. If we wait till they get Invention, they will be very hard as their coutnerattacks will be led by 3.2.1 amphib units.

 

[Ankka]

Aren't berserks 7.2.1?

Yes, we should attack them before they get 'em, anyway.

 

[Bede]

Actually...6.2.1, I think.

If you want a good look at what boats of Berzerks can do look at the Gang of Four:FRFR Redux thread http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=76351

 

[Rik Meleet]

Attack the Vikings now? Just before they get Berzerkers ? When we still fight with warriors ? On several fronts ? Have you got a deathwish ?

It seems I am up; I am unable to play very soon, perhaps in 2 days. I will check the save to see whether my comments were premature. In the meantime: please also consider other alternatives. I don't know how many civs are supposed to be on this map, but to our north I expect to see some more civs.

 

[Ankka]

Well, in C3C they are 7.2.1.

 

[conehead234]

We have swords so I think we can take them. We need the lux.

 

[Ankka]

Go for it Rik.

 

[Ankka]

Rik?

 

[Rik Meleet]

I am here.
I did mention ("I am unable to play very soon, perhaps in 2 days") it would take at least 2 days. I am hoping to play tonight, unless RL takes over. I will definately be able to play by friday night.
I hope you have the patience. If not; slip me out. I won't be able to play Saturday, Sunday, Monday and perhaps even Tuesday. I have to visit my mother who is undergoing Chemo-therapy.

 

[Ankka]

No problem then. I was a bit hasty and should have noticed that...

 

[Rik Meleet]

Playing now.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Checked the Save; we are in no shape to fight. We are "weak" compared to the vikings, Egypt, India, Ottoman's and the Americans. We are avarage to China and strong compared to only the Spanish. What is worse: Vikings have Engineering and Feudalism; Invention is invisible, but you can bet your life the vikings already have it or are researching it. Warrior upgrade to Swords cost us 80 gold each; we only have gold for 3 upgrades and another 1 every 3 or 4 turns. Also bad: our best defensive unit is the 1-2-1 Spear. Pikes are still far away and I don't want to defend with 1-2-1 units against 6-2-1 golden-age igniting counter-attackers. And we have no luxuries, thus War Weariness will kill us (if the Berzekers aren't quick enough).

So no war. Instead I'm going to build up the nation.

Things we need to do (in random order):
1 - Build a harbor for luxuries import (war with Scandinabia kills our sea-trade route).
2 - Build defenders (to keep what we got).
3 - Build swords (for the upcoming war).
4 - Increase our funds and gpt (marketplaces).
5 - Build barracks (for veterans).
6 - A better government.

IHT: Disband scout in Khurasan. We gain 2 shields. Swithc Najran to temple, Kufah to temple, Baghdad to harbor, Mekka to market, Damascus to horse (retreating is nice against Berzerkers).
Whip temple in Kufah, Basra, Khurasan, Fustat.
Can't trade.

IBT. Chinese start Sun Tzu. Spanish start Great Lib.
Najran temple -> rax
Kufah temple -> rax
Basra temple -> rax
Khurasan temple -> rax
Fustat temple -> rax

[1] 690 BC.

IBT. Spanish want to talk. Trade TM ? Ok, if you throw in 2 gold. She will. Egypt starts Sun Tzu.
Medina warrior -> walls.

[2] 670 BC. Whip temple in Anjar.

IBT. Damascus horse -> Market
Anjar temple -> rax

[3] 650 BC.

IBT. Americans start Sun Tzu.

[4] 630 BC.

IBT. Many borders expand; our Palace expands as well: Gets a front wall. Washington Completes The Great Lib.
[5] 610 BC. We can trade with Scandinavia. Trade horses + WM + 6 gpt to Scandinavia for Ivory + Silks and 9 gold. They turn from annoyed to polite. Otto's have Monotheism.

IBT. Chinese, Egyptians, Vikings, India, Ottoman's, Americans start Sun Tzu. Egyptians, Ottoman start Hanging Gardens. Ottomans finish Hanging Gardens. Spanish Start Great Lighthouse.
Mecca market -> temple

[6] 590 BC. Baghdad whips harbor.

IBT. Chinese start Great Lighthouse.
Baghdad Harbor -> archer

[7] 570 BC.

IBT.
Mecca temple -> Sword
Yamama warrior -> warrior

[8] 550 BC. Whip market in Damascus.

IBT. Vikings start Leonardo's That means they have the tech to build Berzerkers !
Damascus market -> sword.

[9] 530 BC. I can down lux a notch.
But Engineering from India for WM + 18 gpt + 459 gold. Buy The Republic from Spain for Engineering + WM + 33 gold + 6 gpt. We are Religious, so I revolt immediately. 2 turns of anarchy.
0 gold, -11 gpt. Sell TM and WM around, netting us : 6 gold. That's not enough. Try renegotiating peace with Spain. It nets us 40 gold; that is enough. After MM-ing we are at 46 gold, -26 gpt. Next turn we'll need some taxmen.

IBT: America declares war on Egypt. Our treasury is running dangerously low. Really ? Duh ...

[10] 510 BC. MM-ing so that we are at 20 gold -20 gpt. That's all folks.

Ankka to continue.

 

[Ankka]

Bede
pindicator
conehead234
Rik Meleet - just played
Ankka - up, but might be busy (again )

REMEMBER: 24h to post a got it, 48 total to complete the turns.

 

[pindicator]

Hmm... 'Zerks are no good.
Looks like we are probably going to have to wait until either hope for a couple people to gang up on the Vikings before we declare, or wait for Cavalry. Either way, we're going to need a lot if we're going to take on the Vikings.
How possible is it to keep up tech wise with just the lands that we have? It must help that aside from the Vikings, nobody else really has prime real estate.

 

[Bede]

@TeamAnkka07
I will be out of pocket untiil Wednesday next week with no net and no game access. Please skip me. TIA.

 

[Ankka]

Does anybody want to take the turns?


I could use a swap..

 

[pindicator]

That puts me up next, huh? I can do a swap, and I might get to it tonight, but I need to do Ank06 first. I will definitely get to it tomorrow, though. But if somebody else can do it tonight for sure, than by all means go for it.

 

[Bede]

I'll pick it up now as I have time tonight.

@pin
Do you get the feeling this is some kind of merry-go-round we are riding between ANk06 and 07?