Ah, you must be the new really cool guy of CF. First of all, Facebook and Twitter are two totally different applications with different purposes. I can agree that Twitter is a waste of time, but I disagree that Facebook is a waste of time. I am not a heavy Facebook user like many are, I don't try to get my friend count up or play those many stupid games, but I can still admit that Facebook is like a mini-internet that has yet to showcase its true potential. Secondly, the beauty with many online games is that you *don't have to* be at your computer all the time, it can self-run and you won't fall drastically behind. Civilization - being a turn based game - could not be the more perfect choice for a web-based game, and Facebook could not be a more perfect platform, considering the fact that it connects people together. I think you will find you'll be eating your own hat once this is released, there is no doubt in my mind it will be one of the "big ones" on Facebook. If it's not your thing, then yeah, you will have to wait until Civ5 comes out, but that ain't going to happen any time soon. I've been involved in every community development from Civ2 to Civ4, including Activisions poor attempts and I just came to realise that every new addition of the game is a simple facelift with a pretty ribbon or new hat... Honestly, there is little gain to this constant re-making of Civ and adding more fluff. I think Firaxis has realised this and isn't going to waste their time doing that. Most likely they are waiting for better technology to come along, to REALLY give Civ5 a whole new body, and I say it'll take approximately 5 more years. See you on Facebook.