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[bob bobato]

You do realize that , because of some of these changes, we would never have been born, right?

 

[Alpha Killer II]

Go back and assassinate Lenin, Stalin, and perhaps Khrushchev. Save the world a whole helluva lotta hassle.

Perhaps go back to 1939 (as maybe the US or England), form an alliance with Hitler, and invade the Soviet Union. Then take our best sniper, and take out Hitler after the USSR is done.
Hahaha, by then he would be too powerful, u destroyed one enemy to create another =/
You do realize that , because of some of these changes, we would never have been born, right?
Which post u refering to?

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Perhaps go back to 1939 (as maybe the US or England), form an alliance with Hitler, and invade the Soviet Union. Then take our best sniper, and take out Hitler after the USSR is done.[/I]
Hahaha, by then he would be too powerful, u destroyed one enemy to create another =/

Similar to allying with the Soviet Union to destroy Nazi Germany, at the expense of allowing them to gain superpower status and begin the Cold War?

Anyways, I don't really know where I would choose to go. Possibly something like Ancient Rome or Victoran Britain, just to take a peek. If money wasn't going to be an issue, then probably around 1900-1939, so to experience the golden age of ocean liners

And the fantastic fashions

 

[Alpha Killer II]

Similar to allying with the Soviet Union to destroy Nazi Germany, at the expense of allowing them to gain superpower status and begin the Cold War?
So u aint really got a choice here, either nazis or commies, which one will u choose? Superpower Nazis or Superpower Commies?

 

[Alpha Killer II]

What would u do when Soviet Russia finally released the T-34s and started pounding the nazis, and set their eyes on the US/Britain when they are done, well the US only got light tanks called "Shermans" so I guess ur pretty much screwed, even with the rise of Mao and Alot of other Communist Dictators...

 

[Mirc]

Or we could just go to Marx and Engels themselves, and nip this problem in the bud.

No.... the ideologies of both Marx and Engels had very, very little impact on communism and nazism. Blaming those for this is extremely.... well, not right at all.

 

[Verbose]

What would u do when Soviet Russia finally released the T-34s and started pounding the nazis, and set their eyes on the US/Britain when they are done, well the US only got light tanks called "Shermans" so I guess ur pretty much screwed, even with the rise of Mao and Alot of other Communist Dictators...

The real allied tankbusters were found in the airforce anyway. You won't operate tanks against the allies for long unless you first manage to pull off air-superiority.

 

[ParkCungHee]

What would u do when Soviet Russia finally released the T-34s and started pounding the nazis, and set their eyes on the US/Britain when they are done, well the US only got light tanks called "Shermans" so I guess ur pretty much screwed, even with the rise of Mao and Alot of other Communist Dictators...

You sir, fail history. Shermans were a medium tank and sporting an 875mm cannon by this point, enough to deal with a T-34. If you want to make a distinction because we didn't have heavy tanks, then I think a Koningtiger would make a much greater difference.
Second of all, we did have heavy tanks, in the form on the M26 Pershing.
Third, any war with the Soviet Union would be a stale mate, because there was absolutely no hope of the Soviets ever contesting U.S. control of the Sea or Skies, and the Soviet Union would never be able to keep a war economy running as long as the U.S., especially under a strategic bombing campaign.

 

[Alpha Killer II]

You sir, fail history. Shermans were a medium tank and sporting an 875mm cannon by this point, enough to deal with a T-34. If you want to make a distinction because we didn't have heavy tanks, then I think a Koningtiger would make a much greater difference.
Second of all, we did have heavy tanks, in the form on the M26 Pershing.
Third, any war with the Soviet Union would be a stale mate, because there was absolutely no hope of the Soviets ever contesting U.S. control of the Sea or Skies, and the Soviet Union would never be able to keep a war economy running as long as the U.S., especially under a strategic bombing campaign.
Alas, but didnt we use the Pershing later during World War 2 when it was kinda late?
But, if Soviets did fall during World War 2, then Superpower Nazis, then they would have Ideology all over the world, Imagine...Cuba, Asia, Possibly middle east, Europe, And since the Nazis at the Brink of the Nuclear Era, well, if we got into a war wit em after, we would be f-ed, and who really want Nazis to be a superpower? (srry if I offend u, im just trying to get more people to my point of view)

 

[Red Door]

Alas, but didnt we use the Pershing later during World War 2 when it was kinda late?
But, if Soviets did fall during World War 2, then Superpower Nazis, then they would have Ideology all over the world, Imagine...Cuba, Asia, Possibly middle east, Europe, And since the Nazis at the Brink of the Nuclear Era, well, if we got into a war wit em after, we would be f-ed, and who really want Nazis to be a superpower? (srry if I offend u, im just trying to get more people to my point of view)

First of all, find the quote button and learn how to use it.

Second, Cuba was communist, not fascist, so why would Nazi Germany control Cuba? And who says someone couldn't stop the Germans, like, for instance, the United States?

 

[Keroro]

No.... the ideologies of both Marx and Engels had very, very little impact on communism and nazism. Blaming those for this is extremely.... well, not right at all.

Indeed, and the ideologies of Trotsky and Lenin had very little in common with the monstrosity that the USSR became. That was all to do with Stalin.

 

[Captain2]

Canada 1814

get the british forces to hold all land gained from the americans

 

[rilnator]

Third, any war with the Soviet Union would be a stale mate, because there was absolutely no hope of the Soviets ever contesting U.S. control of the Sea or Skies, and the Soviet Union would never be able to keep a war economy running as long as the U.S., especially under a strategic bombing campaign.

The US airforce and RAF couldn't knock the German war economy out, how were the going to do it to the Soviets? I don't know where the western allies would be basing thier airforces for the war with the USSR but I don't know if any fighter would have the range to fly to the Urals and back.

 

[Alpha Killer II]

First of all, find the quote button and learn how to use it.

Second, Cuba was communist, not fascist, so why would Nazi Germany control Cuba? And who says someone couldn't stop the Germans, like, for instance, the United States?

Well lets say US hired a dictator to control Cuba so it would be against Nazis, then a revolution against Dictatorship Cuba then another Fascist state, or maybe, it would have a revolt and somehow become Communist (like it did in real history)

 

[ParkCungHee]

The US airforce and RAF couldn't knock the German war economy out, how were the going to do it to the Soviets? I don't know where the western allies would be basing thier airforces for the war with the USSR but I don't know if any fighter would have the range to fly to the Urals and back.

Because, there would litterally be no way for either side to end the war, assuming the Soviets managed to drive their way through Europe. There is simply no way. If the Soviets had continued there naval production rate at that time for one hundred years, it could not match what America produced in one. Eventually, someones war economy will collapse, for the simple reason that its impossible to sustain a war economy forever, and someone will have to sue for peace. That side will most likely be the ones with most of its major cities burning.

But, if Soviets did fall during World War 2, then Superpower Nazis, then they would have Ideology all over the world, Imagine...Cuba, Asia, Possibly middle east,

Yes, Imagine Cubans, Asians, and Middle Easterners adopting the ideology of their own inherent inferiority and the superiority of blonde, blue eyed germanic people.

 

[Red Door]

Well lets say US hired a dictator to control Cuba so it would be against Nazis, then a revolution against Dictatorship Cuba then another Fascist state, or maybe, it would have a revolt and somehow become Communist (like it did in real history)

What if the Soviet Union never existed?
What is Poland beat Germany in World War II?
What if the Democratic Republic of Congo became communist?

(If you don't get the point by now, I'm showing that your what-if scenarios mean absolutely nothing in a history forum, especially when you try to reason a what-if with another what-if, because it's highly unlikely.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

No.... the ideologies of both Marx and Engels had very, very little impact on communism and nazism. Blaming those for this is extremely.... well, not right at all.

Marx and Engels came up with the idea of communism. If other people down the line corrupted their idea, then that's different, but if the idea was never in their heads in the first place, then they can't corrupt it into the Communism we know today.

 

[innonimatu]

That could have made for a more interesting alternative history. If marxist communism hadn't prevailed in the First International, then it would have followed Bakunin's anarchism...

 

[Plotinus]

lets say US hired a dictator to control Cuba so it would be against Nazis

I like this idea. Where can I hire a dictator? Is there some kind of website where aspiring dictators advertise their services, or does it have to be by word of mouth?

Marx and Engels came up with the idea of communism. If other people down the line corrupted their idea, then that's different, but if the idea was never in their heads in the first place, then they can't corrupt it into the Communism we know today.

That's like saying it would be a good idea to go back in time and kill Jesus in order to stop the Crusades happening.

 

[Mirc]

Marx and Engels came up with the idea of communism. If other people down the line corrupted their idea, then that's different, but if the idea was never in their heads in the first place, then they can't corrupt it into the Communism we know today.

Well, Marx said "this is an hypothetical society, and no country in the world is ready to implement it, until the sum of the needs of each person is lower than the sum of resources existing".

And the case in Russia was opposite. Plus, all the communists in Eurasia had absolutely no wish ever to make a communist society. They formed a super-rich super-powerful extremely small group of people, containing themselves, while the rest of the citizens were almost the poorest people in the world. Almost being there just as a precaution.

The ideas of Marx and Engels were just a pretext for Russia's expansionist desires. They could have been using Socrate's ideas as well.