Apple Cider Vinegar (from Very Many Questions ΛΓ)

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Random question, why is the internet obsessed with apple cider vinegar? I see a dozen of these clickbait articles on how doing a shot of apple cider vinegar every day made someone lose 4 pounds and stop their type 2 diabetes. Seems ludicrous, but even still I'm not that opposed to trying it just to see what happens.
 
Random question, why is the internet obsessed with apple cider vinegar? I see a dozen of these clickbait articles on how doing a shot of apple cider vinegar every day made someone lose 4 pounds and stop their type 2 diabetes. Seems ludicrous, but even still I'm not that opposed to trying it just to see what happens.

Have you got four pounds to spare and type two diabetes? Or is your "just to see what happens" more of a general thing? Kidding aside, I've never heard that drinking vinegar can do anyone any particular harm, so might as well.

I do wonder though...what have you been looking at that your clickbait feeder is coming up with this stuff?
 
Random question, why is the internet obsessed with apple cider vinegar? I see a dozen of these clickbait articles on how doing a shot of apple cider vinegar every day made someone lose 4 pounds and stop their type 2 diabetes. Seems ludicrous, but even still I'm not that opposed to trying it just to see what happens.

Obesity and Diabetes 2 is the cause of that hype.
And apple cider vinegar is an ageold remedy against bloodsugar spikes, (confirmed by solid tests showing lower fat depositing), just like having some salat with vinegar dressing or pickles (less effective but also proven).
The typical German Kartoffelsalat (cooked potatoes, cooled down and preferrably a day in the fridge to make the starch a slow carb, with eggs, onions, herbs and vinegar) another traditional dish using that principle.

You can also add some cinnamon in high carb/sugar meals (cereals) to decrease the bloodsugar spike.
The Vikings already used it to add to their mead as soon as they had their trading route to Istanbul up and running (In mead both the alcohol as the sugar causing the bloodsugar spikes). Traditional Danish sweet cinnamon breads the successor, just like later the rice desert of rice cooked in milk with sugar and cinnamon.
Cinnamon having the advantage that it contains a wealth of broad spectrum healthy micronutrients as well
 
Wow @Hrothbern now I might start slurping down vinegar just to see what happens. That was a heckuva pitch!

Nutrition is a hobby of mine :)
I can add some nice NCBI articles if you are interested
 
Nutrition is a hobby of mine :)
I can add some nice NCBI articles if you are interested

No thanks, I only take advice from people who I have developed respect for personally. Since it is your hobby, I'll take your word on it.
 
Have you got four pounds to spare and type two diabetes? Or is your "just to see what happens" more of a general thing? Kidding aside, I've never heard that drinking vinegar can do anyone any particular harm, so might as well.

I do wonder though...what have you been looking at that your clickbait feeder is coming up with this stuff?

I’m overweight but my levels are all fine so it’s more just a general thing to see if I’d lose weight without doing anything out of the normal. Also it supposedly combats acid reflux which I get but control basically by not drinking too often and I can’t ever drink wine or coffee.

I know pickles and fermented foods are supposed to be really good for your digestive tract but I never thought of vinegar as having the same properties.

What kind of apple cider vinegar do you need to take though? Most supermarket kinds are really clear looking compared to like organic unfiltered stuff. I don’t know where the healing properties lie.
 
What kind of apple cider vinegar do you need to take though? Most supermarket kinds are really clear looking compared to like organic unfiltered stuff. I don’t know where the healing properties lie.

Jeez, beats me. <looks to @Hrothbern for help>
 
Nutrition is a hobby of mine :)

Do you recommend anything in terms of where to find recipes for nutritious meals that I could cook? Something that would taste good if I stuck it in the fridge on sunday and ate for lunch on Friday. I don't want it to be too elaborate, because I know myself too well. I want this to turn into a habit, so it would help if it were an easy to follow recipe that doesn't take too much prep.

I think a strifry might be good for such a purpose (generally tastes good, easy to prep, easy to put into containers for lunch, easy to change ingredients, etc.), but I've never been able to make amazing stirfry. I figure I should try following a recipe, but there's just way too many sites out there, so I just never try. My 2 goals are to eat healthier food on a more regular basis, and to save money by not eating out for lunch all the time.
 
Do you recommend anything in terms of where to find recipes for nutritious meals that I could cook? Something that would taste good if I stuck it in the fridge on sunday and ate for lunch on Friday. I don't want it to be too elaborate, because I know myself too well. I want this to turn into a habit, so it would help if it were an easy to follow recipe that doesn't take too much prep.

I think a strifry might be good for such a purpose (generally tastes good, easy to prep, easy to put into containers for lunch, easy to change ingredients, etc.), but I've never been able to make amazing stirfry. I figure I should try following a recipe, but there's just way too many sites out there, so I just never try. My 2 goals are to eat healthier food on a more regular basis, and to save money by not eating out for lunch all the time.

You didn't ask me, and lord knows healthy is not my style, but IMO the beauty of stir fry is that if you have a really good sense for the sauce everything turns out good and that means you can constantly vary exactly what goes into it so it never gets boring. My own sense for the sauce doesn't have a recipe, it just comes from having always been willing to throw stuff at it and eat the consequences. Most recently though I found this magical stuff that has yet to fail me as a good place to start.
 
Spicy soy sauce named after dragons, sounds promising. Unfortunately it seems to be hard to find in Canada. At least at first glance

My problem with stirfry sauces is that I always pretty much used to use teriyaki and/or soy and/or thai sweet&sour&spicy. I also cook everything in the same order because it's what I'm used to, so all my stirfry dishes always seem to taste the same, even if the other ingredients are different. The other ingredients are usually the same anyway (chicken, onions, maybe mushrooms) so that doesn't help. What always happens is that my dish tastes "good enough" for the first 2 days but after that it's not really that great. You can throw it back into the wok and freshen it up, but I wouldn't mind something that lasts me the whole week. I guess I could freeze smaller portions, but there's gotta be a better recipe
 
I’m overweight but my levels are all fine so it’s more just a general thing to see if I’d lose weight without doing anything out of the normal. Also it supposedly combats acid reflux which I get but control basically by not drinking too often and I can’t ever drink wine or coffee.

I know pickles and fermented foods are supposed to be really good for your digestive tract but I never thought of vinegar as having the same properties.

What kind of apple cider vinegar do you need to take though? Most supermarket kinds are really clear looking compared to like organic unfiltered stuff. I don’t know where the healing properties lie.

It is the acetic acid in ordinary white vinegar that does the job.
as simple as that.

A dose of 10 ml standard white vinegar of 5% acetic acid per meal is enough to get the effect. Tossed on the salat or drink it diluted in a glass of water before the meal.
You can also buy supplement tablets if you want to avoid the acidity effect on your teeth and swallow with water.
Although I have yet to find literature where testing has been done on the effect of the timing, most recommendations are to take the vinegar before meals to be most effective (30-60 minutes).
Hereby noted that in many traditional country food cultures, the salat with vinegar dressing is eaten just before the mean meal.
However enough literature showed effect on vinegar taken during the meal.

Another positive side effect seems to be that it increases your satiety feel of a meal. In effect leading mostly to eating a bit less.
It also looks like that it diminishes some causes of acid reflux, but I would not count on that.

The advantage of organic, unfiltered, not pasteurised apple cider vinegar is that it (should) contains life bacteria that are a good probiotic for your gut metabolism, just like other life fermented foods.
A nice to have, but not needed at all to lower the bloodsugar spike, to get your weight loss and protection against Diabetes 2.
 
Do you recommend anything in terms of where to find recipes for nutritious meals that I could cook? Something that would taste good if I stuck it in the fridge on sunday and ate for lunch on Friday. I don't want it to be too elaborate, because I know myself too well. I want this to turn into a habit, so it would help if it were an easy to follow recipe that doesn't take too much prep.

I think a strifry might be good for such a purpose (generally tastes good, easy to prep, easy to put into containers for lunch, easy to change ingredients, etc.), but I've never been able to make amazing stirfry. I figure I should try following a recipe, but there's just way too many sites out there, so I just never try. My 2 goals are to eat healthier food on a more regular basis, and to save money by not eating out for lunch all the time.

Prep ahead (hot) meal lunches that can last 5 days in the fridge or can be frozen.
and ofc healthy and tasty etc :)
That's new territory for me

I am coming from a country culture where you make during breakfast some sandwiches, typical bread with cheese, sliced meat products, etc, which you take with you for lunch and perhaps with added some fruit or so if you are more the healthy type.
And my typical lunch recipes are more the kind that you can prep very fast at home.

but I like the challenge as much as I always have liked cooking, and that chemistry of nutrition on our metabolism :)

So I digged into internet, saw indeed a lot of easy prep meal stuff
here is one that looks at least tasty and not unhealthy: https://www.brit.co/make-ahead-lunches/
And already a lot of ideas how you could vary a lot of taste differences around a simple backbone of kind of meals that are solid healthy as well.
that will take me some time to implement......

Question to Moderator:
Could you make a separate thread of the subject starting with the first question of @civvver ?

Moderator Action: Done. ~ Arakhor
 
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The typical German Kartoffelsalat (cooked potatoes, cooled down and preferrably a day in the fridge to make the starch a slow carb, with eggs, onions, herbs and vinegar) another traditional dish using that principle.
My mother used to make this. I had no idea it was German. Hadn't thought about it in years. It's good stuff.
 
Pretty sure my mom makes a Polish version of that with mayo. Her version includes chopped up eggs, peas, and IIRC chopped up apples, and of course some vinegar. Delicious, but could be an unrelated dish, I'm not really sure. It's sort of potato and mayo based from what I've seen over the years. I'm pretty sure I saw similar dishes when we lived in Germany
 
Coincidentally enough, I came across a stir-fry infographic last night.

Spoiler :
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Do you recommend anything in terms of where to find recipes for nutritious meals that I could cook? Something that would taste good if I stuck it in the fridge on sunday and ate for lunch on Friday. I don't want it to be too elaborate, because I know myself too well. I want this to turn into a habit, so it would help if it were an easy to follow recipe that doesn't take too much prep.
Chillis, pasta-sauces, curries (to some extent) and stir-fries are all pretty good candidates for this approach, if you have even basic kitchen facilities (kettle, hob, microwave, fridge/freezer) at work.

What I did while I was at college, was to make a large saucepan of chilli (or curry, or pasta sauce), eat one portion that evening, then once it had cooled off, I'd bag up the rest into individual portions, and freeze (not fridge) them. Then when I fancied chilli (or curry, or pasta sauce), I'd pull out one portion, strip the bag off, drop the solid lump of iced chilli into a heat-proof (glass) jug, and then defrost/cook it in the microwave, while boiling up a portion of rice (or pasta) on the stove. With hindsight, using the baggies wasn't very environmentally friendly, but as a poor student living in digs I didn't have the spare cash or the storage space to go the cupboard-full-o-Tupperware route.

My (veggie) chilli recipe consisted/s of a couple of medium sized onions, a red (or green) bell pepper, a couple of cans of chopped tomatoes (student laziness: I use 3-4 fresh toms now), 2 cans of red kidney beans (or 1 can kidney beans, 1 can baked beans), 1 can of sweetcorn, and about 1 cup (100-150 g?) of freezedried soya mince, presoaked in 1.5–2 cups of boiling water + 1 teaspoon of vegetable-stock powder. Plus tomato-paste (if you're not using baked beans), salt, pepper, chilli powder (fresh chillis would be better, though!) and a little sugar to taste (drinking chocolate powder works well too!).

Making it's real easy:
  1. Set some (sunflower) oil to heat in the (sauce)pan* (at a low setting!) while you chop the onions relatively small (if I'm putting the chilli in tortilla-wraps, I cut the onions in half and then in strips)
  2. Put the chopped onions to sautee with some crushed garlic (saucepan lid on to keep the steam in), while you dice the pepper
  3. Stir the pepper into the onions and leave the pan heating gently while you chop and add the tomatoes — you may need to turn the heat up a bit now there's more to cook
  4. Drain and rinse the kidney beans and sweetcorn in a colander (you might have to drain and rinse each can separately) and add them (and the soaked soya mince) to the saucepan
  5. Add the tomato-paste, spices, maybe some more water if it looks a little dry, stir well, and turn the heat up further to bring it (back) to a bubble (canned beans + corn are precooked, so they just need heating through)
(*You could pretty much use the above recipe/approach for a meat-based chilli as well, except you'd start by browning your beef-mince in a large frying pan rather than a saucepan, before adding the rest of the ingredients; obviously you wouldn't need the soya mince either, and you'd probably only need 1 can of beans)

I use(d) pretty much the same approach for preparing pasta-sauces too, only the ingredients vary: pasta sauces got carrots and/or zuchini and/or aubergine instead of beans+corn, and (dried) basil/oregano/thyme instead of the chilli-powder.

Indian-style curries can also be prepared like this, and are easy to do in the sense that what you get is usually edible, and might even be quite palatable, but they generally won't ever be as good as what you'd get in even a half-decent Indian restaurant; a good curry (sauce) really needs a long simmer (like, an hour or two) to blend the flavours properly, rather than a quick blast. Thai-style curries made with coconut milk-based sauces don't take as long, though and are really nice too.
I think a strifry might be good for such a purpose (generally tastes good, easy to prep, easy to put into containers for lunch, easy to change ingredients, etc.), but I've never been able to make amazing stirfry. I figure I should try following a recipe, but there's just way too many sites out there, so I just never try. My 2 goals are to eat healthier food on a more regular basis, and to save money by not eating out for lunch all the time.
Stir-fries are fantastic, because you can put just about anything into them. The only real tricks are to shred all the ingredients to roughly similar sized pieces (the prep usually takes longer than the actual cooking), and add the ingredients in the 'right' order, so that everything comes out cooked but not over-cooked. Stir-fry sauces aren't really an issue: soy sauce is the standard go-to, but a lump of peanut butter plus (the oil/gravy that everything was fried in, plus) some hot water works well too. You really need a wok to make stir-fries 'properly', though, but you can get these pretty cheaply these days (IIRC, ours came from IKEA, and we've had it for >10 years now)

For a meat stir-fry I'd guess you'd want to start with the meat strips, but our stir-fries are fully veggie, so don't quote me on that. I usually start by frying up some sliced tofu, then add the veggies in order of decreasing crispness (apart from onions, which always go in before the other veggies to mellow their flavour); so e.g. the sliced carrots/ bamboo-shoots/ aubergine goes in before the cabbage/ leeks/ spring onions/ sugar peas, which goes in before the zuchini/ mushrooms/ baby-corn/ beansprouts. At some point I'll usually crush in some garlic and/or ginger. After the last ingredients go in, I add any sauce, and then pour some boiling water over the top of everything to flash-steam it, and thin down the gravy so that everything gets a good coating, and/or I boil up some stir-fry noodles while the veggies are cooking, and then drain them and stir them into the mix, which has much the same effect.

I just had some leftover stir-fry for lunch: made it on Thursday evening, Tupperware'd the leftovers, ate the first leftover-portion for lunch on Friday, froze the rest over the weekend, moved it from the freezer back to the fridge yesterday to thaw out overnight, nuked it today :yumyum:

And now I see I'm going to cross-post this with @Synsensa... ;)
 
Apple cider vinegar is a great and tasty substitute for regular vinegar, or even balsamic vinegar. Goes great on pork chops. If it helps with blood sugar too, all the better :D

As an aside, apple cider vinegar makes an excellent trap for getting rid of those pesky annoying fruit-gnats that spawn from old onions. Just mix with a dash of liquid soap, and water. Works like a charm.
 
I can confirm the "stir-fries do better in a wok" sentiment. The best stir-fry I ever had was a tofu stir-fry made by a Filipina lady with a giant wok. A large flat pan still gets the job done but not quite as well.
 
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