April 2021 Update - Patch Notes Discussion

[Gedemon]

Op has been updated with the patch notes.

I think you forgot the [MODDING] section.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Netherlands came at least from unimpactful to "might have a more noticeable impact". I didn't expected more for them.

Scotland... why? Scotland would be my favourite civ if it wasn't for Bannockburn. Seriously?

OK, I was not that hyped, but I'm truly disappointed.

 

[EarendilTheMariner]

I TOLD YOU NETHERLANDS AND SCOTLAND WON'T RECEIVE ANY MEANINGFUL CHANGE!!!!

Radio Oranje Doubled in usefulness, that's pretty meaningful. It's still not great, but it's significantly better.

 

[Vargas1]

I'm surprised (and saddened) that there are no changes to Egypt and Scotland (specifically). I'm a little underwhelmed at the change to Radio Oranje, though +2 culture for international trade routes is not actually terrible (+2 loyalty for domestic is still mostly useless).

I'm confused about buffs to Inca and Korea, who were already strong civs.

I'm a little sad about this part: "Fixed an issue where bonus resources would not be removed from a tile after a district is built on it." I actually thought that was a feature, not a bug.

I remain excited by changes to Khmer and Spain, and I also think the buffs to France and Scythia seem welcome. But overall I think I was hoping for a bit of a broader revision.

Edit: Also the cultural domination piece seems pretty cool. It addresses an issue I think a lot of us had raised, which is that tourism is otherwise utterly useless unless going for a cultural victory. Now that is no longer the case.

 

[TreVor_ish]

I thing you forgot the [MODDING] section.

 

[bbbt]

This is a pretty significant patch relatively speaking, but they definitely over hyped it. And I say that as someone who usually takes their hype with a grain of salt - i.e. NFP was about what I expected basically. They may have put a little too much stock in "we've readjusted the base strength of some of the units".

Adding additional impact to tourism through "cultural domination" is pretty cool though.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Netherlands

• Radio Oranje: Domestic Trade Routes provide +2 Loyalty (was +1) per turn for the starting city. Trade Routes sent or receive from a foreign civilization grant +2 Culture (was +1) to the Netherlands.

So Netherlands is officially twice as good now!

I guess it's still better than having no leader ability, looking at you Robert the Bruce.

 

[pokiehl]

Ah man. Looks the Portugal trade route yield bug wasn’t fixed either.

 

[EarendilTheMariner]

This is a pretty significant patch relatively speaking, but they definitely over hyped it. And I say that as someone who usually takes their hype with a grain of salt - i.e. NFP was about what I expected basically. They may have put a little too much stock in "we've readjusted the base strength of some of the units".

Adding additional impact to tourism through "cultural domination" is pretty cool though.

They didn't overhype anything. You did.

 

[Bojmir]

Huge buff to Peaceful Domination Eleanor. 25% bonus to loyalty pressure on foreign cities you culturally dominate. One of the hardest things for her to do is not win by Culture before she takes the last couple capitals. This should help immensely.

Also, that Mayan builder addition is fantastic!

 

[Ozymandias9891]

So there's a new pet commnand for scouts...

 

[Luxerne]

I'm pretty disappointed that we still didn't get the change to older scientists and engineers to be like the NFP great people, providing instant technologies if their Eurekas were already triggered, and that we still haven't gotten the great work thumbnails fixed for the NFP artists.

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

So Robert the Bruce is still stuck with a garbage ability that can never be activated...

Radio Oranje Doubled in usefulness, that's pretty meaningful.

I'd say it is half as terrible, not "twice as useful."

 

[Kupe Navigator]

I guess it's still better than having no leader ability, looking at you Robert the Bruce.

I had seen the future!!!! The future of DOOM!
( K I will stop here. Please don't get mad at me. )

 

[Earl Grey - hot]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT? This is AMAZING!!!!!

Did someone say "soft power?"

Really love this change. Sort of makes up for some of the weak (Netherlands) or non-existent (Scotland) buffs

 

[hhhhhh]

Korea

• [Rise and Fall, Gathering Storm] Three Kingdoms: Mines now receive +1 Science for each adjacent Seowon district. Farms now receive +1 Food for each adjacent Seowon district.

I don't get why they boost Korea. Now that Rationalism needs +4 adjacency the flat +4 from Seowon is huge. A meaningful nerf would be make the flat bonus +3, so one has to build two mines to get +4.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

So there's a new pet commnand for scouts...
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That goes away if you have the cats enabled.
Seriously though what is that for?

 

[Kupe Navigator]

still as a Cultural player I love cultural change and it would seem french
Eleanor of Aquitaine got a small boost.

 

[Ozymandias9891]

That goes away if you have the cats enabled.
Seriously though what is that for?

Perhaps @FXS_MisterKevin could answer that

 

[Datgingah]

The cultural domination bonuses are really interesting - extra gold for trade routes to them, extra loyalty, and faster spy missions! It doesn't seem big but it ties in loyalty a lot more with the rest of the game