Arafat

[Steve Winer]

Should Arafat be removed from power?
I think so.

 

[Pillager]

Is that a euphamism for having him assassinated?

 

[MrPresident]

I think there should be a new Palestinian election to see if the Palestinians actually want him as their leader before we think about removing him from power.

 

[G-Man]

Remove him. As long as he's in power, there's no chance for peace under any conditions. And along with him remove any other Palestinian leader who is or was involved in terrorism.

 

[nixon]

Should be hanged and impaled ASAP for his treacherous acts to derail the peace process for decades.

 

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Pillager
Is that a euphamism for having him assassinated?

It's the only way to remove him.
The more howlin' for his head
the stronger support his people
give him.

So a vote for "removal" is just
another assassination rubberstamp.

Arafat a martyr? What a mess.

 

[G-Man]

1. It's possible to expel him
2. Maybe if he's hanged infront of one of his homes (more like palaces really) he'll be looking less like a martyr...

 

[Pillager]

Well, that's what I assumed. Arafat as a martyr is not something I'm sure would be worth risking, and the Israelis seem to appreciate that.

 

[nixon]

Who gives a sh!t about Arafat becoming a martyr? That only encourages us to decimate even more sick Arabs Moderator Action: You were previously warned, in one of your posts, about broadly bashing groups (muslims there), when you want to critisize terrorists, say terrorists, not Arabs or Mulsims, no race/ethnic/religious/nationality/etc, group bashing here. Take 7 days or comtemplation hereon. Lefty
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who deliberately go for civilian targets. The Palestinians don't fight better in any way, if Arafat was chosen to be eliminated.

It would though, truely lift one major burden from the shoulders of every party, and it would eventually spark the overall means of reaching a lasting peace in Israel.

 

[G-Man]

Maybe we should just send Arafat to the intl court?

 

[Ozz]

Originally posted by G-Man
Maybe we should just send Arafat to the intl court?

Prove he's a murderer in a neutral court of law?

Arafat wouldn't be a martyr, He'd be a pariah.

 

[MrPresident]

The problem with removing Arafat is that you can't be sure of what will follow him. And since the support of the terrorist organisation of hamas are increasing it is likely that a member of one of them would become the leader. And then what are the prospects for peace?

 

[bobgote]

Get rid of him, but his own people would have to do it. He is the main stumbling block in any peace negotiation.

 

[IceBlaZe]

And along with him remove any other Palestinian leader who is or was involved in terrorism.

Along that logic the World had the right to remove Begin or Shamir from the Israeli leadership.

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
Along that logic the World had the right to remove Begin or Shamir from the Israeli leadership.

Along that loginc the world would've had the right to it if they were continuing to use terrorism after the creation of Israel.

 

[Ozz]

Originally posted by IceBlaZe


Along that logic the World had the right to remove Begin or Shamir from the Israeli leadership.

Wow, Am I impressed.
(no satire I really am)

 

[AVN]

Originally posted by IceBlaZe


Along that logic the World had the right to remove Begin or Shamir from the Israeli leadership.

Great reply

Because I think both Sharon and Arafat should be removed I didn't vote.

Edit typo.

 

[G-Man]

Sharon should be removed? Why?

Edit: AVN changed his post....

 

[IceBlaZe]

Along that loginc the world would've had the right to it if they were continuing to use terrorism after the creation of Israel.

But the Palestinian state was never created...

Anyway, I get your point.
No leader that is a part of the Palestinian Authority, which is the temporary mandate over the (allowed) Disputed Territories, should be active in terror.

But... What matters to us is the current true policy of that certain leader, and not his pass actions. Because Israel has no right to talk about electing leaders with a very bad past.

Arafat, for example, is two faced. He is undoubtedly giving green light to terrorism, and I doubt his policy has changed since 1965, but the world sees him as a "peace partner" due to reforms he never made, or stances he supposedly took but never actually supported.

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
Arafat, for example, is two faced. He is undoubtedly giving green light to terrorism, and I doubt his policy has changed since 1965, but the world sees him as a "peace partner" due to reforms he never made, or stances he supposedly took but never actually supported.

The only good thing Arafat has done is to stop the reforms. This allows Israel to do whatever it wants with his HQ and still not break the UN resolution

Anyway while Israeli leaders might have bad past, there's a difference between past and present. The fact is that all Palestinian leaders are still connected to terror organizations.