Are you Politically Correct?

[rah]

I'm happy to wake up this morning and read all the spirited discussion and appreciate not being abused too badly.
I'd like to thank all those those that didn't take this too seriously and the windbags that did.

 

[Gorbles]

I am the living embodiment of both taking things too seriously, and 7,000 word essays. What can I say, I'm a work-in-progress

 

[Lexicus]

It's not hypocrisy, because being called a bigot isn't the same as not respecting someone's pronouns. One is an active lifestyle choice relating to subconscious or conscious bias (racism, sexism, etc) that you can choose to unlearn (if it's an accurate label in the first place, just in case anybody tries the quote out of context game), the other is a part of who you are.

Too many people seem unable to separate themselves from the things they say. I have at times taken great care to ensure that I call the things people say racist, rather than calling them racist (or homophobic or what have you) and most of the time I might as well not bother, because people mostly seem to hear "what you just said was racist" as "you are a racist."

If you want to talk about thin skin, that is a manifestation of it right there. The inability to consider that one might have said something wrong is a type of weakness, and people who cannot move past their learned prejudices are far weaker than all the "PC snowflakes" put together.

I am the living embodiment of both taking things too seriously, and 7,000 word essays. What can I say, I'm a work-in-progress

Your 7,000-word essays are well-considered and thoughtful. You're basically the opposite of a person who gets offended at other people getting offended all while pretending to be non-emotional and thick-skinned.

 

[red_elk]

It seems like a lot of people in this thread are just easily upset and overly sensitive to being told about the potential implications and imputations of their language choices, tbh. They should harden up.

If they harden up and stop caring about implications of their language choices, you may not like the outcome.

 

[Estebonrober]

If they harden up and stop caring about implications of their language choices, you may not like the outcome.

So this take really isn’t okay.

We can talk about whether it’s ok to go somewhere and make everyone else conform to your “disabilities?”, like not being able to tolerate clapping at a convention. It is not okay to imply violence. This crap is front and center part of this reactionary right’s implicit take on everything. “Don’t back me into a corner! You won’t like the consequence!”

I don’t like people implying that I’m being sexist by using “you guys” like “you all”. Is it something I’m going to change to fit into a certain group. No. Is it something I could be respectful about while interacting with someone? sure. Will I continue to want to interact with that person who thinks I’m sexist for using a passing phrase? Probably not.

 

[rah]

Will I continue to want to interact with that person who thinks I’m sexist for using a passing phrase? Probably not.

I think that's the true essence here. Will I want to? If I have to, yes of course, but if I have a choice, probably not.

 

[red_elk]

I don’t like people implying that I’m being sexist by using “you guys” like “you all”. Is it something I’m going to change to fit into a certain group. No. Is it something I could be respectful about while interacting with someone? sure. Will I continue to want to interact with that person who thinks I’m sexist for using a passing phrase? Probably not.

Agree with this part.
Not sure I understand what you were saying in the first paragraph about implying violence and backing into a corner though.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I've stopped (or toned down) using some sexual and gendered insults, but I'm not really "politically correct". I just don't go out o f my way to be a dick to people because of superficial differences. More of a Dirtbag leftist really who's half amused and annoyed when lilly livered limousine liberals like Bill Maher get triggered because modern society doesn't appreciate some of their mean spirited hack jokes.

Anyway, the extremely silly parts of political correctness (white people shouldn't eat curry or what have you) come more from the center, center left and neoliberal right-wingers who pretend to be leftists and not from the actual far left.

It's performative niceness used as a distraction.
"We like minorities. We like you. We're not going to actually improve your material conditions, but we're on your side."

 

[warpus]

Something else that has become a PC hot button (at least where I live), is men can no longer say "girl's night out" when referring to their girlfriends going out to party without the men. It's verboten.

Lol I've never heard of this thing, maybe you just have weird friends

I am pretty sure I see "Girls night out" advertise in regular media and nobody seems to care. Or I'm just not paying enough attention

 

[rah]

Haven't heard that one being an issue yet either. I would classify that one as silly also.

 

[Tristan_C]

Will I continue to want to interact with that person who thinks I’m sexist for using a passing phrase? Probably not.

Good, but the situation continues to develop from there. People ultimately crave validation. To obtain it from you, this person's next moves are going to be to convince you that you're being sexist by ignoring him. Perhaps even that the sentiment you've expressed, that you don't want him bothering you anymore, that you don't love him for what he's doing, means your psyche is viscerally sexist.

If we can get a chain reaction of triggered guys being triggered by triggered guys, could that be the sustainable energy source everybody's looking for?

 

[GoodSarmatian]

If we can get a chain reaction of triggered guys being triggered by triggered guys, could that be the sustainable energy source everybody's looking for?

Put Ben Shapiro and Lena Dunham in a hamster wheel.
If if they don't generate much energy, at least they're out of sight and out of mind.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

More of a Dirtbag leftist really who's half amused and annoyed when lilly livered limousine liberals like Bill Maher get triggered because modern society doesn't appreciate some of their mean spirited hack jokes

Bill Maher is a lot of things but he's not one to be triggered by insufficiently woke language. If anything, he spends a lot of time railing against that.

 

[Farm Boy]

Why don't my favorite comedians come to college campuses any more?

This disturbs me(in general), too. Humor is a fundamental coping mechanism for the fact that existence is ridiculous, contradictory, mean, painful, and that we are fundamentally messed up things. Laughter is not for "Oh good, I thought I would get an A and I got an A." But if we can shame people for laughing at what makes us messed up, then attempting to deal with it as people, we can shame the coping mechanism and leave people where they were. I don't think it's intentional, but I do think it's a status play that works super well with corporate legal. By their fruits shall ye know them, you know, all that.

 

[rah]

Thinking Don Rickles. He used to make fun of everyone regardless of what minority they were. I was in the front row for one of his shows and was poked fun of unmercifully. I laughed with everyone else. It didn't divide us, it brought us all together. I don't think he had a prejudiced bone in his body. A great comedian who knew how to work the crowd. I'm sure his routine would not be considered as funny these days. I think we've lost something.

 

[Arwon]

Yeah it's really sad that Don Rickles can't perform any more because of the PC thugs

 

[rah]

And he died a few years ago.

 

[Estebonrober]

I think that's the true essence here. Will I want to? If I have to, yes of course, but if I have a choice, probably not.

It’s definitely part of the problem.

Now I’m not an actual socialist as I believe in capitalism as an economic tool. I am however very sympathetic to the socialist agenda in at least making capitalism better at distributing its wealth generation. That said seeing that video discourages me from participating. I’ve actively donated to Warren who is my ideal candidate and I’ve flirted with campaigning for her personally. I don’t want to feel anxious the whole entire time I try to do something like that.

 

[rah]

That said seeing that video discourages me from participating.

You aren't the only one. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

[AmazonQueen]

It’s definitely part of the problem.

Now I’m not an actual socialist as I believe in capitalism as an economic tool. I am however very sympathetic to the socialist agenda in at least making capitalism better at distributing its wealth generation. That said seeing that video discourages me from participating. I’ve actively donated to Warren who is my ideal candidate and I’ve flirted with campaigning for her personally. I don’t want to feel anxious the whole entire time I try to do something like that.

It wasn't anything like that when I was in the Labour Party.
A little more like that when I was a student but student politics has always been more about renaming the Student Union bar than changing society.