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Jewel Runner
Jesus could have waited until Sunday to heal the man with a withered hand.
Arrested for feeding the homeless
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Verarde
Pondering Wearing A Hat
Eh, they were in violation of the law, they were wrong. But that doesn't excuse the fact that it seems quite silly that you need a permit to give people food.
Verarde
Pondering Wearing A Hat
Well, from the article it didn't seem like it was a "public event."
Berzerker
Deity
But you said Jesus didn't come to change the law, thats speaking for him. Now you're arguing the law aint got nothing to do with Jesus (I'd agree). And if the Pope believes God limits contact with humanity to himself, a few billion people would like to have words with him.
Well, they are getting off light... Jesus was killed for being a pain in the butt. But I'm still asking: does Jesus want you to put these people in cages? Why are you denying Jesus now? Dont Christians always ask themselves what Jesus wants from them? I'm not even a Christian and I look to his teachings for moral guidance, so I'm always speaking for him.
Berzerker
Deity
today he'd need a permit from the govt to practice medicine
and he wouldn't get it... So Jesus would have the same trouble he had back then. We'd just put him in jail instead of killing him.
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Jewel Runner
I believe that miracles are considered "alternative medicine," so the licensing is different. That's kind of beside my point. If Jesus can circumvent the law to do good even if there were more legally acceptable avenues for the same action, why can't these guys?
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
The law that Jesus did not come to change was the Law that God gave to Moses, not the laws that human officials have more recently decided to create. These laws included nothing against feeding the poor. They did however include the absolute right of the poor, or anyone else for that matter, to enter and glean food from fields they did not own.
The line "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" is immediately followed by "and render unto God what is God's." All things are God's. God commands us to feed the poor, and says that our actions towards them will be judged as if they were against Him.
I'd argue that most forms of government permitting are unjust laws, and thus not real laws at all.
The line "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" is immediately followed by "and render unto God what is God's." All things are God's. God commands us to feed the poor, and says that our actions towards them will be judged as if they were against Him.
I'd argue that most forms of government permitting are unjust laws, and thus not real laws at all.
aronnax
Let your spirit be free
"The law cares nothing of motive."
"Then the law must be a very foolish law."
- Henrik Ibsen 'A Doll's House'
"Then the law must be a very foolish law."
- Henrik Ibsen 'A Doll's House'
Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
Jesus didn't come to break the law, he came to fulfill it.
Berzerker
Deity
Actually Jesus specifically targeted at least 2 laws from Moses - working on the sabbath and divorce law. I imagine they were stoning adulterers under Moses too so we might add a third.
Your joke was based on your interpretation of a passage in the Bible - that means you were speaking for Jesus. So why get all high and mighty about me speaking for Jesus. Geezus! And dragging the Pope into it?
Btw, what exactly did your joke mean if you weren't suggesting Jesus would support such a law? Your "joke" doesn't make sense...He came to fulfill the law of the prophets, and he defined that law for us - love God and love others. He did not support every law, not even laws from Moses. Look at what he said about divorce law. And he did break a few laws, one got him killed.
cav scout
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If the act in question also infringes on the rights of others (the enjoyment of a public park) and there is a more appropriate and suitable venue to accomplish the important act of feeding the hungry then limiting this activity is appropriate.
Should we allow people to set up homeless feeding stations in the public library? How about a courtroom at the courthouse?
timtofly
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The US is a pro-choice nation. Technically it is inhumane to force people to do anything.
So you agree it's inhumane to force them to be homeless.
The default state for any living thing is complete freedom unless something interferes. We evolved for life on a world where living space and resources are free for those who want them. Those things would still be free if it weren't for human interference.
Those homeless people could easily form their own communities and build their own homes if they wanted to. Too bad their choice is taken away and they're forced to remain on the streets.
Generally there is no food allowed in a library or a courtroom, though I do not see the issue with providing them food outside the library or courtroom. I do not see how one could enjoy a public park with a bunch of hungry people milling about. Would I need a permit to invite them to my picnic in the park?
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
OK! They'll be on the first steamship to Cardiff.
Isn't that where they came from?
