Art of the Possible

[Immaculate]

I hope u will reconsider.

Edit: let's ALL remember that this is a game and maintain the proper perspective.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

I had reached out to you twice to negotiate but you refused completely. What did you think would happen?

Also, please keep in mind that the barring of goods from one nation is generally an extremely hostile act.
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France notes the Boer Republic announcement by the Confederacy as yet another amusing anecdote of continued opinon reversals from the Confederate diplomatic corps. We hope they're not charging too much for overtime.

France once again notes that this entire time it was the UNITED STATES AND OTHERS who made a Southeast Asian nation into a global issue. Had the world said nothing, the war would be quick, Siam would remain independent, and we would leave. But instead, you and your cronies embarked on this ridiculous idea of international sanctions. We refused to negotiate because we refused to be humiliated, which is all that the terms we saw. All the Americans would offer is "Status Quo", a situation unacceptable to France.

We are displeased to see Poland's condemnation. We are fighting though, not just to rescind a trade treaty. We are fighting to preserve human civilization and global stability. We will not let the United States and its campaign of anarchy succeed. We will stop the United States from destabilizing this world, and we will intervene as necessary. As a counterpoint, we show Korea, a nation that gained peace by the efforts of France, instead of provoking a major war.

France is a force for peace in this world. Our former allies turned traitor, the Confederate States of America, sanctioned France due to French efforts for peace, nothing more. We hope to continue trading relations and our alliance with Poland, and hope that this dispute, however unfortunate, can be put behind us.

No matter how often you repeat lies, they won't become true.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

So a guy goes to bed early on a Sunday night after checking the thread for activity. "All's quiet for the moment" he says, "Looks like things are defusing." He then spends the next few hours sleeping and working, content that it's all good without any need for intervention or involvement. NOPE. All of it lies. I do want to apologize though, I have not been giving things the full attention I should, and I probably should have stuck with my gut and waited for Fallout 4 buzz (and holidays) to be completely over before starting this. Ah well. Away we go. Will need some time to put together NPC responses here.

@Seon. Apologies, I thought I had responded, but I guess it didn't take. Will put together new responses and send them in the next hour.

@crezth and others concerned: Until orders are actually received for Mexico, I'm going to go ahead and assume that existing NPC diplomacy supplants crezth's diplomacy. So until otherwise informed, assume Mexico continues to support the Fort Lauderdale conference.

 

[gay_Aleks]

War declaration on the side of Britain/France. Defend our possessions.

 

[Seon]

@Seon. Apologies, I thought I had responded, but I guess it didn't take. Will put together new responses and send them in the next hour.

May I ask for a 24-48 hour extension then, so I may mobilize my troops if necessary?

 

[TheLastJacobite]

OOC: A live look in at the current negotiations! Britain and France, shown at the head of the table are quoted as saying that they "want that treaty signed" by Siam disavowing all contact with any other nations. Bewildered American (Left) and Confederate (Right) delegates look on

 

[Immaculate]

Awesome. I did a real lol. Considering the tension around that was well timed. Thanks.

 

[Ahigin]

You know it's Monday when you go to a lunch break at work, check the updates on your favorite thread, and see the WWI just begun.

Fast times we live in. Fast times indeed.

 

[christos200]

OOC: I have to say that despite my fame as a warmonger, I would not threaten nations over trade treaties if I was France or Britain. Cool down guys, it is trade not military alliance.

 

[TheLastJacobite]

OOC: I have to say that despite my fame as a warmonger, I would not threaten nations over trade treaties if I was France or Britain. Cool down guys, it is trade not military alliance.

OOC: But it threatens their very way of life! If nations realize that they can do business with countries other than Britain and France, then the whole fabric of reality will collapse in upon itself!

 

[Shadowbound]

The Empire of Japan is prepared to take military action to enforce the Treaty of Tokyo, if non-signatory powers seek to violate its conventions.

The Empire of Japan announces that, as the United States continues to defy the Treaty of Tokyo, we will be effecting unlimited interdiction of American commerce going to and from China. This punitive measure will remain in effect for the next 18 months, until the treaties that triggered it expire, at which point we will reconsider if it has demonstrated a willingness to act as a responsible partner in Asia.

This follows a long litany of insults, provocations, and schemes by the American government against the Empire of Japan. They have advocated foreign nations to war, undermined our own diplomatic efforts, and emboldened anti-Japanese sentiment throughout Asia in addition to their aggressive commercial practices. They are widely regarded, both by the Japanese government and our partners, to be a disruption to global stability and prosperity.

Some nations may find it convenient that we are enacting these measures after the United States has become embroiled in a major conflict due to its poor diplomacy. It is very convenient, but we have stated in the past our intention to take these actions, and sent orders (EQ can confirm) to do so before the current outbreak of hostilities. Only the revelation of the extent of their conspiracy has changed the scale of our response.

 

[Seon]

The Empire of Japan announces that, as the United States continues to defy the Treaty of Tokyo, we will be effecting unlimited interdiction of American commerce going to and from China. This punitive measure will remain in effect for the next 18 months, until the treaties that triggered it expire, at which point we will reconsider if it has demonstrated a willingness to act as a responsible partner in Asia.

OOC: As part of China I'm slightly concerned that there are multiple treaties regarding China that I'm not really aware of. Which treaty is violating the treaty of Tokyo again?

 

[Shadowbound]

OOC: As part of China I'm slightly concerned that there are multiple treaties regarding China that I'm not really aware of. Which treaty is violating the treaty of Tokyo again?

Treaties of Quanzhou and Yunfu, way back on pages 19 and 20.

 

[Seon]

OOC note: still don't have answers to diplomacy.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

@Seon: Yeah, I know. Been slammed today, I have a window open with half-typed responses, but not finished yet. REALLY wishing I had waited until after the holidays to launch this game.

 

[Immaculate]

The Empire of Japan announces that, as the United States continues to defy the Treaty of Tokyo, we will be effecting unlimited interdiction of American commerce going to and from China. This punitive measure will remain in effect for the next 18 months, until the treaties that triggered it expire, at which point we will reconsider if it has demonstrated a willingness to act as a responsible partner in Asia.

This follows a long litany of insults, provocations, and schemes by the American government against the Empire of Japan. They have advocated foreign nations to war, undermined our own diplomatic efforts, and emboldened anti-Japanese sentiment throughout Asia in addition to their aggressive commercial practices. They are widely regarded, both by the Japanese government and our partners, to be a disruption to global stability and prosperity.

Some nations may find it convenient that we are enacting these measures after the United States has become embroiled in a major conflict due to its poor diplomacy. It is very convenient, but we have stated in the past our intention to take these actions, and sent orders (EQ can confirm) to do so before the current outbreak of hostilities. Only the revelation of the extent of their conspiracy has changed the scale of our response.

To Japan,
From USA,

The treaties of Quanzhou and Yunfu are failed and have been denounced by the Chinese partners. They exist now only as vestigiality.

We have invited you to private diplomacy to discuss the issues you have outlined (OOC: see your PMs). If you are interested in discussing this further we would be open to diplomatic contact.

 

[Shadowbound]

The Empire of Japan will host the American trade delegation, to continue previous conversations regarding the lowering of specific tariffs.

The Empire of Japan must cancel the planned American visit. Accommodations will still be provided so that your itinerary need not change, but no government ministers are available for high-level talks at this time.

 

[DuneBear]

You know what, I REALLY don't need this additional fking stress right now, and I really don't want to be ridiculed for this . I'm sorry ft Lauderdale guys, but I can't handle this game right now.

I'm quitting.

See you all in hell

Sounds like you're taking this game far too seriously lol

 

[Masada]

@TheLastJacobite

There's no real difference. It cuts me off from their trade but also the neutrals behind them. (Russia via the Dardanelles. Yourself thanks to the Swedes and Prussia.) In effect it's a blockade. A useless one imposed by weaker parties. But a blockade none the less. And I told people this. I warned from the outset what the risk was. I was ignored.

The headline idea was bad enough for me. It was made worse for everyone else because the Conference parties then cut their own tariffs between them. As the Danes noted, this hurts all non-signatory powers. To add insult to injury, the US was openly trying to profit from all this.

There's also no real world analogue. It's just a horrible mish-mash of bad ideas.

The Empire of Japan announces that, as the United States continues to defy the Treaty of Tokyo, we will be effecting unlimited interdiction of American commerce going to and from China. This punitive measure will remain in effect for the next 18 months, until the treaties that triggered it expire, at which point we will reconsider if it has demonstrated a willingness to act as a responsible partner in Asia.

This follows a long litany of insults, provocations, and schemes by the American government against the Empire of Japan. They have advocated foreign nations to war, undermined our own diplomatic efforts, and emboldened anti-Japanese sentiment throughout Asia in addition to their aggressive commercial practices. They are widely regarded, both by the Japanese government and our partners, to be a disruption to global stability and prosperity.

Some nations may find it convenient that we are enacting these measures after the United States has become embroiled in a major conflict due to its poor diplomacy. It is very convenient, but we have stated in the past our intention to take these actions, and sent orders (EQ can confirm) to do so before the current outbreak of hostilities. Only the revelation of the extent of their conspiracy has changed the scale of our response.

We applaud Japan for taking a stand for freedom of navigation and freedom of trade against the hegemonic ambitions of the United States.

 

[Seon]

@TheLastJacobite

There's no real difference. It cuts me off from their trade but also the neutrals behind them. (Russia via the Dardanelles. Yourself thanks to the Swedes and Prussia.) In effect it's a blockade. A useless one imposed by weaker parties. But a blockade none the less. And I told people this. I warned from the outset what the risk was. I was ignored.

The headline idea was bad enough for me. It was made worse for everyone else because the Conference parties then cut their own tariffs between them. As the Danes noted, this hurts all non-signatory powers. To add insult to injury, the US was openly trying to profit from all this.

There's also no real world analogue. It's just a horrible mish-mash of bad ideas.


We applaud Japan for taking a stand for freedom of navigation and freedom of trade against the hegemonic ambitions of the United States.

So, uh, you are going to war with... every single party of ft. Lauderdale?