Aussies Gonna Get Spanked

Hey Mongol Horde ain't life grand!
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Just when you thought the Aussies couldn't win anything else up pops Mr Thorpe the human torpedo and casually breaks a few world records and then wipes the floor, with the Yanks and Europeans, to help the Aussies take out the relay at the World Swimming Championships.

And what about those Wallabies? Did I hear someone say that the Lions would give them a spanking? Anyway MH it's nothing to get suicidal about after all it's just organised bum sniffing!

Back on topic, this Ashes Series isn't a game, it's a shame! It has been 12, yes TWELVE years since the Poms held the Ashes and things look like getting worse for Poor Old Mother England!
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Mongol there is only one honorable course of action left for you, emmigrate. To the land of OZ of course!!
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I've just noticed the title of this thread and couldn't help wondering if it shouldn't be in the Humor and Jokes section.
I went onto Yahoo UK before the Ashes began and there was a poll asking how many tests England would win. I laughed when I realised that none was not an option. As much as I'd like England to win, or at least to push the Aussies into the final day, there's no getting round the fact that we aren't playing anywhere near a decent standard. What kind of average does Ward have for tests now? I doubt it's above 5. We need Vaughan, Hussain and Thorpe all fully fit and we'll have a chance in our innings, but every time we get close to causing some confusion in the Australian upper order one of the bloody Waugh brothers comes in and flattens our attack. It doesn't matter which one, it's always one of them.
I noticed that Butcher (who can't really bowl, for the record) managed to somehow take 4 wickets in the first test. Is this perhaps a weak spot, that the Australians can only bat against people who can bowl properly? Maybe we should enlist the South Bridlington Glue Factory over 50s reserve XI to open our bowling attack. It'd be like Graham Gooch's cricket I used to have on my Amiga. Every time you pitched the ball in one spot, they'd be caught behind. Their innings didn't last 2 overs!
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In all seriousness, it is getting embarassing. It is just a matter of time before the whole Aussie team clicks at once and annihilates English confidence for the next 20 years. I can see Slater, Hayden and Ponting making big runs very soon, and Lee getting just reward for his work. He'll be bowling well over 90, don'y you worry about that.
Hussain would be better off calling Cousin Saddam in Iraq, and asking for some nerve agents, as that is the only thing that could get the Aussies out
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Except Steve Waugh, who is so obsessed with ironcladding his technique that he no longer needs to breath.
Hussain is a shadow of his former batting prowess, and will not get it back this series.
Thorpe has done well against so so attacks, but I think he is rather overrated at the moment, and will be pulled back down this series.
If and when Vaughan makes an appearance, they will spiflicate him. He too, has done well against no one special, and I look forward to his confidence and career being smashed beyond repair
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He will end up another Alan Wells, or Aftab Habib...
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White should be on his last chance. He ain't done nuffink. Where is Flintoff, BTW.

The much vaunted England bowling, and the much vaunted England team are getting a lesson in reality.
It was good to see Ramprakash back in, as he was making runs, has a decent record against Australia, and can fight.
Ward should be dropped to obscurity. He looks less impressive each time I see him.
Stewart should retire or go down to 7, as he isn't making the scores.
Even Iron Mike is looking intimidated. Where is the MAN who performed that miracle in South Africa in 1995?
The relentless Aussie bowling produces so much schadenfreude, it is a pleasure
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There are so Poms else where on the Net calling to "blood some new young lions who won't be afraid to take it up to the Aussies"
Such men do not exist in English cricket, and this is one series where you do not want to blood a newbie, as he is just a free wicket, and could end up scarred for life
(Graeme Hick debut vs West Indies 1991; a great talent strangled at birth. On the matter of Hick, I think he still could add something, if but as a specialist sub fielder, as he catches quite well. Sure he's had more comebacks than Michael Jackson's had plastic surgery, but who else is there with his kind of experience? Owais f*cking Shah? Vikram bloody Solanki?
He comes good every 8 tests or innings or whatever, but he'd be a good contributer to a team of losers, and can play spin powerfully. He is the only man in England who could hit Shane Warne out of the attack.
I remember a one dayer at Adelaide when he hit Murali over the grandstand and well into the rose gardens. That is a long way.
Any way, end of my Hick supporting diatribe.
Suffice it to say, England are doomed beyond all hope, and are being shown who the real best are.
India was a very, very close aberation with dodgy umpires and lots of luck going India's way. We are the champions, and with the current line up, are simply awesome.
The only thing that could stop a white wash is rain.
Or Frank Tyson making a comeback.
Or Botham getting the Aussies stoned
Or Graeme Hick getting recalled and making 1009*
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And what about your bloody Bombers, eh Andy?
You must be a pleased as a pig in, well, a piggery.
This is my gospel, and anyone who disagrees with a single word, is in the words of the great Bob Hawke: "A silly old bugger."



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I am currently rolling around my pigpen grunting like, well like a pig in sh*t!
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And those Bomber boys are simply brilliant! Unfortunately I wasn't there, I was doing some much needed gardening in my backyard.
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My only other regret is not getting some money on the Bombers at quarter time - I would have made a killing.

I couldn't resist going for a jog yesterday morning past a certain D. Pagan's house (he lives nearby) decked out in red and black - yes I know, not very gracious, but strangely satisfying.
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Btw Simon, your Cats gave us a run for our money recently and are certs for the finals if they keep up that form.

Back on topic, the English Cricket authorities are sticking to the time honoured policy of shuffling the deck chairs while the good ship England sinks in ignominy. English Cricket is in serious trouble if the results of a recent survey done in Liverpool are any guide. The survey found that the vast majority of people prefered to play and watch Soccer and viewed Cricket as an elitist sport for the upper classes.

If the Poms don't lift their game the day may yet come when an Ashes series has the same interest as a series against Zimbabwe - I hope not.
 
All this macho chest-beating is a bit weird from Australians
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Just joking.
Let's face it. Wales could wipe the floor with you in football (that's the game with the round ball, not the Aussie version which you'd obviously win and seems to consist of a big fight between men in tight shorts with no sleeves to which the ball is entirely incidental) and you can have your own way in both codes of rugby, but the sport the British are best at is motor racing. We might not have so many great drivers any more, though Coulthard isn't too bad, but the are only two or three F1 teams who aren't based in Britain and we basically run the whole thing from a technical point of view. We produce good sprinters, you produce good swimmers. There are as many sports in which we are better than you as there are where you're better.
What Britain needs is a sport which wasn't invented by someone British. Football, rugby, cricket, golf are all massive sports that began here and we're nowhere to be seen in the world rankings. Horse racing's the only one that we excel in, and God knows where that originated. We need a new sport that we can win at. Swift game of Kabaddy, anyone?

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Macho chest-beating? No, just a bit of friendly Pome baiting.
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Seriously, it's good to see that at least one Englishman has joined this discussion. Perhaps you could enlighten us Aussies as to the state of English Cricket. Does anyone, including the overpaid County professionals, have an interest in playing Test Cricket for England? Do English school boys still dream of being Captain of the English 1st XI?

As I said most of this thread is just good natured banter, but there is also a degree of frustration, on the part of many Aussies, that beating the English at Cricket is not what it used to be. I don't mean that to sound arrogant, my point is that the Ashes used to be a contest that incorporated history and tradition, and more importantly, was fiercely and closely fought - two teams giving everything for their country. That hasn't been the case for some time. The names of English Cricket's greats, Grace, Hutton, Hammond, Tyson, Compton, Underwood and Botham echo down the ages. These men would have jumped at the chance to Captain England, and some did, in contrast to the present lot who seem to view taking the Captaincy as akin to accepting a poison chalice.

Are the Ashes Series doomed to irrelevancy? I'd be interested to hear some English opinions.
 
Credit to where it is due. England have made a match of it, even though the great Aussie team scavenged a 5 run 1st innings lead. It is nice to see a contest, in all seriousness.
Winning all the time gets a bit boring, especially with that roundhead S Waugh in charge.
I still think we will win, though, don't get me wrong.
Tudor was a successful selection, the first by England in Gosh knows how long.
McGrath and company will blow 'em away though.

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WE WON THE ASHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long Live the Warne Republican Army.
Any of you Poms got anything to say, you most loudmouthed individuals about 2 months ago?.......
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C'mon Aussie C'mon!!!!!!!!

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You won a pile of ashes...I bet England is disappointed.


Being Scottish I can laugh at it all! play vs scotland on their home tuff (a midge-infested hill! rain expected aswell as gale force winds).
 
Here we go again. England look like just saving the follow on, but still look completely outclassed by Australia.
I said Ponting would come good, and have been proved absolutely correct. Martyn also played quite magnificently.
McGrath is blitzing them yet again, and Warne will be a factor later. Conversely, the English bowlers didn't get their act together, even though Gough cleaned up the tail quickly for once.
Stewart just hit a four now, so we will bat again. This will give the openers a nice hit, and then the Poms will be crushed on the final day, by a combination of bowlers.

That bloke coming on the ground was a nice note.

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Simon. Waddya mean? Most Aussies here are from Vic...or in your case the city of Churches?
I'm a sand groper from WA.
We would never drink Fosters, or VB. Of course we all wear cork hats, it's a lot more environmentally friendly than spraying yourself with poison.
To get back on topic...looks like it might be a clean sweep. No surprise in that.
It's not just cricket the Poms are slipping at. They don't seem to good at football either. ( That's Soccer for our American ...friends?)
 
When I refered to Australia, I was not including that obscure breakaway province to the far west, Esca
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Anyway, an update: Rain stopped play on 4th arvo, with Australia 4/176, leading by 314 over the pathetic English, who got McGrath'd.
Punter made runs again, further highlighting how illusory his "form slump" was.
If the weather does not intervene, by the end of tommorrow, it will be 4 nil, and the Poms will have cut off Nasser Hussains head in the Tower
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Maybe they can pick a whole new team for the final test, so we can humiliate and crush someone different for a change.

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Oh well, Darkshade, since the lit quiz dried up then I'll just have to cede any competition to the cricket teams just down the road from me. As it stands (15.00 Leeds time) we're on 205 - 2 and it looks very promising. I just wish I could get away with skiving the afternoon off work and going up to Headingley for the grand finale. Our (very wet) 13th man has played a blinder this particular test and could give us the victory English cricket so desperately needs. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif" border=0>
Edit: If anyone wants to start a sweepstake on long it will be before I have to eat my words then I say about 2 hours - just enough for a total batting collapse.
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[This message has been edited by duke o' york (edited August 20, 2001).]
 
At tea (3.40pm Headingley time) on he final day, England require 93 runs to win from 36 overs, a run-rate of 2.58. Their current run-rate is 3.89 and they have 7 wickets in hand.

Down to the pub I think to watch history being made. The spirit of '81 resurfacing?

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Congratulations England and more particularly Mark Butcher for a great innings. I suspect many Aussies were secretly hoping England would win this - winning all the time does get a bit monotonous
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And also good to see a few Poms come out of the woodwork on this thread, hopefully Mongol will remember the wager he had with a few of us and ajust his signature accordingly!
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Before you get to carried away Yorkie, about winning the Ashes in Oz, remember Steve Waugh is not as compassionate (as Adam Gilchrist) towards Poms and is unlikely to make charitable declarations. But I almost forgot English Cricket has a new saviour - Rodney Marsh - maybe you will be a chance to win the Ashes - in 2010!
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Enjoy your win lads and have a few
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Bah humbug!
If it were not for rain and a ridiculous declaration....
But enjoy your moment in the sun while you can. It won't last.

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I don't think I'd be stretching the truth to suggest that there is an air of arrogance in Australian cricket (see above, and no doubt later, below). This is what forced the declaration and it was good to see them getting their fingers burnt but some well-played cricket. Unfortunately, if the Ozzies learn from this then they will become even more formidable opponents
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I've so far resisted commenting on this thread, mainly 'cos the title was always ludicrous (the only time I've known an Aussie get spanked was this kinky bar maid I met in Earl's Court, but that's another story), but all this crap about the declaration is too much. Given you lot were crowing on Sunday about how only the weather could save us from a whitewash, it was hardly charitable for Gilchrist to leave us requiring 315 to win. Only the second highest winning score we've ever made, and 6 more than our highest score this series. Come on, when we lost two wickets in the first half hour, would anyone have bet on us winning? 500-1 wasn't in it. I was sat here watching the BBC's ball by ball wondering if I shouldn't just go home and spend the rest of the day in bed.

Just ask yourselves how you would be feeling if Gilchrist had played safe, batted all morning to get over 400 and got a draw. Everyone would have attacked him for missing the 5-0 opportunity. He took a risk, and it didn't work, but I'll bet no-one in the Aussie dressing room tried to argue him out of it.

Best bit of the test for me wasn't Butcher's knock (though I'd be happy for him to repeat that twice at the Oval) but the way Stewart put your bowlers to the sword on Saturday - some fantastic, if highly unorthodox, shots, and the first bit of positive play by an Englishman all summer. That innings, and Monday's play, shows that your boys don't like it up 'em. They're so used to winning everything that they expect teams to roll over and give in (which we have done all summer, so it's not an unreasonable expectation). Never mind the bowling, did you see the way your fielding went to pot on Monday?

Having said that, you'll batten down the hatches at the Oval, keep batting like it's a one day game (152 from 144 balls - what the hell went on there?) and we'll not stand a chance. But good while it lasts, and sets us up better for the winter. Now if Nasser can just keep his bloody hands out of the way...

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Supernaut, good to see that some Brits still feel passionate about their Cricket. I don't take anything away from the English team for the way they pursued the target set by Gilchrist - they batted superbly. The fact is they were in that position not because they had out-played Australia in the proceeding days, but because the Australian Captain chose to risk defeat and go for the win rather than the draw.

The euphoria of winning shouldn't blind English supporters to the reason they had the opportunity to achieve the victory.
 
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